The fleeting eye - not looking out

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by phandentium, Dec 9, 2008.

  1. phandentium Greatest title Registered Senior Member

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    I've noticed that I have quite a bit of freedom to do what I want to when I am near or around a far view of their peripheral vision. People do not truly notice what I am actually doing, as long as it's not highly conspicuous or noticeable. At often times, people may be too focused on something to notice what else is going on around them.

    To some people, whenever you can see at least a segment of another person's eyes they would tend to think that they are somewhat being watched. Another way to put it would be to say that even though somebody cant see what another is doing, they would think that they can and they are. It gives the person (who thinks hes somewhat being watched) a sense of insecurity. This would discourage somebody from doing something. However, when somebody is actually looking around, they will tend to notice anything out of the ordinary.

    There is also the factor of whether another person truly cares what the other is doing. For example, if I wanted to go to a supermarket and steal something like a rubber ball (not that I would), would the person standing seven feet away from me even care? Surely the people watching the cameras would.

    A good example of something I did once quite easily. I walked into a small party with a bunch of people talking to each other. I simply walked in as if I had business to attend to. All I truly did was grab cake and walk out.

    I bring this subject up on the topic on the account of how much one can get away with doing without somebody noticing. When somebody attempts to do something next to another, the other wont generally always care. This can even occur in larger crowds of four or five. It's as if there is only a need for self importance while maintaining a good lack of care for their own surroundings.

    Pardon me if this post isn't up to any par for intelligence in this section. This is the first time I've tried to post a thread like this here.
     
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  3. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    That depends upon many extenuating circumstances I would think. You won't just walk into the Presidents compound as easy as you might want to think. People having a good time at a party don't really look out that much as to who is there with them if it is people there own age and ilk. Hanging out with a crowd of the same type of people as are is just a part of life, nothing new about that.
     
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  5. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    You should read big-city police reports sometimes ...you'd be amazed and shocked. People are beat up all the time, right in front of huge crowds, and no one does anything, nor will they tell the cops anything.
    Not too long ago, a woman in Dallas was beaten, robbed and raped right on the freakin' sidewalk in front of hundreds of people ...no one did a thing. When the cops came, all they could/would tell was that he was a big black man.

    Yep, people are always CLAIMING that they care for others, yet the evidence is pretty overwhelmingly clear that they don't! And in big cities, it's epidemic ...people don't know nor care about their closest neighbor.

    Baron Max
     
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  7. phandentium Greatest title Registered Senior Member

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    That sounds intriguingly among the same lines in such an interesting but different fashion. Could fear attribute to this?
     
  8. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    No, it's actually two things; one, they don't know anyone standing around so there's little or no "moral" support, and two, they've been living with so many people that they don't know that they've given up trying to pretend to care.

    See? In either case, it all boils down to humans not giving a shit about other humans ....no matter what they might claim.

    Baron Max
     
  9. phandentium Greatest title Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, though surely fear would play a part into it. If a huge ass guy was beating on somebody else right near another person. Surely they would feel fear.
     
  10. Cyperium I'm always me Valued Senior Member

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    Well, some people do have greater empathy, and there are cases when people do stop those kind of things. People risk their lives etc.

    Might be that most people don't care enough to risk anything of their own, but some do. So what is more human? Of course we should help eachother out!

    I haven't witnessed anything big as of yet, but surely I would do something, even if it was only to talk to somebody that could do something about it. The message, I guess, is don't be like the masses.

    Perhaps people become corrupt in big cities, or even on the internet?
     
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  11. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    "Fear"? I don't actually like that word because it has so much negative connotations that usuualy don't fit.

    That being said, yes, "fear" plays a large part, but it's not physical "fear" of the big man, it's "fear" of actually getting involved in something that they don't think they have any business in. I.e., the guy being beaten is unknown, the guy doing the beating is unknown, and just as bad, all the other people around are all unknown. Why would a total stranger jump into such a situation ....with total strangers all around him?

    In Podunk, Arkansas, where everyone knows everyone else, they wouldn't hesitate to interfere with such a beating or whatever. See the difference? Things and people are KNOWN ...they aren't strangers like in the big cities.

    Baron Max
     
  12. phandentium Greatest title Registered Senior Member

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    . . . or perhaps an increase in anonymity increases the chance of malicious activity?
     
  13. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    And most people act like everyone else is like this as well.. though luck for them.
     
  14. phandentium Greatest title Registered Senior Member

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    So the world is filled with assholes thinking everyone else is an asshole.
     
  15. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Exactly

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  16. phandentium Greatest title Registered Senior Member

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    I would be wrongly implying that everybody is an asshole. Truly there are people who are not.
     
  17. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah, that's probably true. But look at it this way, ....how well do you think a "nice guy" would last in an environment with millions of assholes and only him? See? The assholes simply overwhelm the very few nice guys.

    Baron Max
     
  18. phandentium Greatest title Registered Senior Member

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    Would the nice guys eventually become assholes themselves?
     
  19. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    For survival, they'd have to begin acting like assholes, even if they were still nice guys. Nice guys, contrary to popular fairy tales, finish last!

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  20. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Depends on what your idea of 'nice guy' is I suppose. I think ridding the world of those moronic humans is a particularly nice thing to do..

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  21. phandentium Greatest title Registered Senior Member

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    That would imply assholes that are nice guys. Possibly vice versa.
     
  22. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    What it implies is that 'nice guy' is a subjective concept, unless you go by vote of majority.
     
  23. EndLightEnd This too shall pass. Registered Senior Member

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    The best place to do something is in the least place people expect it. And people rarely expect something to happen right under their nose, so yes you can get away with quite alot even though people are around.

    As long as you appear to know what you are doing people rarely ask questions, its only when you look out of place that people will notice.
     

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