Should Homosexual couples be allowed to adopt children?

Absolutely. I can't think of any logical reason why they shouldn't.

 

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here is why they shouldn't. Gay couple adopt a normal straight guy, he has sexual preference of women, he is attracted to women...but the gay couple show their pride with flying gay parade colors, you know gay people, how they show their gayness to everyone and make sure everyone finds gayness within them too...The child grows up slowly and after years of being together with gay people realizes...heh why am I being so uptight, why can't I be free, so the kid starts dating dudes, at first he is not satisfied, but after more gay propaganda at home and how "gayness is within everyone" is being taught into him, he convinces himself that he is gay...To make story short, he marries a gay dude as well...meanwhile the lesbians have a son and a daughter they adapt, both get converted to the "show your freedom gay pride" mentality, and the son becomes gay and the daughter becomes a lesbian...

Years pass...generation of men and women grow up as lesbians and gay people...no more is there any children born for most are converted to gay/lesbian...In addition to that swinging becomes prevalent, as it is a "freedom" way of showing the way of life, AIDS becomes widespread, further diminishing the whatever left of population of Earth.

The last years of Earth? Gay couples holding hands and lesbian grandmas kissing while all die of AIDS.

The End of Earth.


Oh...you say, what a dramatization, but guess what this will be a reality, if something is not done fast.

 

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Quite. Why not?

 

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draqon at this point i invoke the rule of lepas (or whatever the fuck it is)

Where is there ANY evidence for that?

 

umm...whats a rule of lepas?

and...

what evidence do you want exactly? for the end of Earth from gay people everywhere and noone having sex and making people, this sort of evidence? lol...

 

Sorry this took so long, i had to get tiassa to track it down for me because i couldn't find it. This is what he sent me

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Either way it refers to the rule "Extraordinary claims require Extraordinary evidence"

Now as its pritty clear that homosexual children can and DO grow up in hedrosexual homes (at a stable 10% i might add) even when those homes are highly atagonistic towards them (ie Bush's poor daughter). The claim that if gays were to raise children they would all be gay is an Extraordinary claims because the ovious evidence would show that sexuality of a child is compleatly unrelated to the sexuality of there parents. Hell this is true even WITH parents who have the same sexual preference as there child. For instance a girl once told me she was having the "sex talk" with her mother and her mother told her she had never given oral sex (though she had faked it once). That girl on the other hand LOVES to give oral. Hence it can be shown both evidentuaryly and anacdotally that there is Zero corrolation between a parent and child. Take another example, a girl raised by her single parent father. If you were correct this would suggest that as her father is atracted to women, and her father is the main influance in her life she would be too. However there is Zero evidence to sugget that boys with single parent mothers or girls with single parent fathers are more likly than the general population to be atracted to there own sex.

So taking all this into acount and with a view towards the SCIENCE in sciforums i respectfully ask you to "put up or shut up". Either produce your proof that a gay couple are more likly to raise a gay child or retract your statement and agnologe your own bigotry

 

oh and your comment that sex would end either way is compleatly rediculas. You dont think gays have sex?

 

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Wow, did I really screw up the tags that badly? Hmph. Looks like I did.

Sorry 'bout that.

In the meantime, one wonders where the first gay human came from, then. Or the first gay penguin, at that.

 

thats wierd, when i read it the first time in the PM it seemed to be correct. Sorry ill fix it

 

thats better, sorry about that

 

Which is why I said I can't think of a single logical reason why the shouldn't. Even if every human died of AIDs, (not likely, by the way) the Earth itself would continue just fine for quite some time without us. So such an event would not be, as you say, The End of the Earth. Seriously man, do you really believe what you're saying?

And honestly, you really believe everyone would get aids. Everyone? Really? If you really believe that... wow. Just wow. You're a nutter.

ETA: And I mean that in the kindest, most caring, possible way.

 

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I'd pick a happy, responsible couple who have similar ideas to mine on how to raise a kid.

 

Great, one raven.
People are talking about empathy. Yes, but also from the point of view of the child please.
If the couples are equally responsible and caring, I will pick the straight one. Can't help feeling that something is amiss in a gay couple family.

 

I'm sorry.
I don't know what you are saying.
That somehow it is not empathetic to a child to allow that child to be raised by a gay couple?

I wouldn't necessarily pick the straight one.
I see nothing amiss, and sexual preference of the parents does not come into play at all for me.
All that matters is that the child will be in a loving environment with happy, responsible, competent parents.
I don't see the problem.

 

I think the one thing that we (accept for the person that inspired me via their post to write this post

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) forget with respect to "objectivism" is the very reason why couples are mostly couples. Speaking from a natural perspective, it's because of the need to perpetuate the species. It's the basic drive of life. Gay couples cannot do that naturally so in order to have a child they MUST adopt. But isn't it true that they have by natural appointment been placed on a different natural course? Having a child would seemingly go against what they themselves are declaring (and I believe to be) as natural.

I do not believe that being gay is the "norm". It has to be an abnormality or the human race would have become extinct many thousands of years ago. However, it's quite possible that this genetic (it must be if one considers the attribute a natural one and not a choice) manifestation is a natural form of population control.

It would seem illogical for gay people to adopt children if this is the case unless they themselves are to be accepted as being self admittedly a "mistake" (?).

If the latter were the case, why would a child choose aberrant parents?

For the record, I don't think gays are any type of a mistake or choice. I believe they represent a natural part of of the human race and a incredibly misunderstood segment of the world's population. Like every other type of human being, there are good and bad. Personally, I do not believe that being gay is either ethically right or wrong. I believe that is up to the person apart from their sexual orientation.

 

It sounds like you're describing kin selection, in which an individual in a group does not have children and helps pass it's genes along by helping it's parents or siblings raise their children to maturity. So by that logic it makes perfect sense for a gay couple to adopt, even though they aren't ensuring the passage of their own genes they are helping human beings as a species. A child with loving parents is probably happier and more successful than a child with no connections whatsoever. Speaking from personal experience the only downside I've seen in a child having gay parents is what other parents think and say and as they get older other kids taunting them for being different, but teasing is an unavoidable element of childhood, regardless of who raises you.

 

Honestly, no. I am saying from the perspective put forward, it's illogical for gays to adopt children apart from any moral considerations.

By natural orientation it would seem like gays are a natural form of birth control so raising children would seemingly go against the grain (so to speak) of what nature intended.

Conversely however I do not feel that makes them "unfit" parents, just unnatural parents.