Is this the same Russia, where after 1000 years, the Jews were still considered foreigners? Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! That kind of society is beyond my comprehension. I marry a man and he becomes my family instantly. How can you live with a people for a thousand years and still consider them as "the other"? Anyway, you should cut down on conspiracy theories.
The Jews aren't foreigners in Russia. Who do you think consititutes the majority of the mega-rich Oligarchs? The Jews who created Bolshevism and Communism in Russia didn't simply disappear when the USSR ended in '91. The conspiracy that being anti-Semitic could kill you in Soviet Russia? No, actually, that's a fact. The conspiracy that owning the Protocols could get you killed during the Kerensky rule? Oops, that's a historical fact as well. Did I miss something? Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Kadark
They were considered as foreigners. This is not only Russia, most places in Europe are like that. Yeah, that Stalin was dumb and controlled by Jews. You must have a very exaggerated opinion of the power of Jewish people. Don't foget, we had them in India as well, for 2000 plus years and they were quite nicely assimilated [though they did run off when Israel was created, which I suppose speaks to the power of their beliefs, misguided as they were]
Sam, I have to catch the bus for work, but I'll be back at about 11:00 PM. I'm starting a thread in the Formal Debates forum to discuss the Jewish influence and power over Communist Russia and, in turn, their power over Stalin. It'll be me, you, and an eager audience! Let's see you tackle my ignorant conspiracy theories. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Kadark
Modern-day Islam has a big problem with Jews. That is because modern-day Muslims were indoctrinated with that modern-day Islam. If you go back a century or more, you'll find little if any incitement or violence on Jews by Muslims, or any citing of violent parts of the Qur'an to justify the hate that we see right now. All this "Jews are the killers of prophets" and "sons of apes and pigs" bullshit, or even "they are the only usurers" crap, sure it's always been around, but it hasn't been used as "talking points" by the ulema and Muslim leaders (too much) as incitement up until the evil Zionists starting coming to Palestine. Then when a conflict started a campaign of propaganda started that before you know it went out of control and grew into a monster, and now there is a century of it growing and going into different sickening directions (Jews control America, Jews controlled Czarist Russia, Jews control the world, Jews drink Muslim children's blood, Jews killers of prophets, Jews as an alien cancer in whatever country they may be, etc. etc.). I don't know... maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I understand it.
In my experience, the mention of Jews in different places India--> blank look [most people have no idea at the local level that there are Jews in India, the ones in Mumbai speak Marathi, dress Indian and look Indian] Saudi Arabia--> dismissive wave, as in don't bother me with such things. smaller sample sizes: Morroccon/Tunisian/Syrian--> suspicion, exaggerated views about Jewish conspiracies Palestinian--> sadness Americans -->suspicion, exaggerated views on Jewish conspiracies.
I'm either starting the thread now, or I'm starting it sometime during the weekday (so you can do your "research"). If you needed to do research on this topic, why would you even attempt to argue it with somebody else? Beats me. Anyway, I'll let you choose the date. Let me know via PM, if you wish. Kadark
Of course I have to do research for a debate. Otherwise I would just be speaking off my head. No point to that. Why do you think I stay away from debates? Too much like work. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Okay, then I will start the thread Wednesday night (right after my midterm test). Fair enough? Kadark
Start it and I'll jump in. If it doesn't get closed. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Why should it get closed? We're discussing the Jewish influence over Russian Communism, and in turn, Joseph Stalin. I can be an erratic poster at times, but when I want to be formal, I'll have the people I'm debating wishing they never insulted my knowledge. Wednesday it is. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Kadark
Because they kept to themselves and were of a different faith. Not that hard to understand fear of people that are different, is it?
Hmm lets see. Like Parsis, Syrian Christians and Jews in India? Yup, it is. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Wow. Three examples of Jews not getting butchered or hated on in something like 4,000 years of history. You know what they say about exceptions & rules. Jews, have, historically (in the West, at least), have stayed apart from their neighbors, by say, not attending Catholic mass and only marrying their own. I would imagine that in the small communities that made up much of Europe, and the rest of the world, for that matter, it would be immediately apparent that the Goldbergers aren't like you or I. They don't go to church on Sundays. They don't worship Jesus. They eat funny things, they keep to themselves. They're wealthy. In any society looking for scapegoats, the Jews are quite useful. Come on. You must get your fair share of it. I would expect that you have greater insight into it than most of us forum goers, given that you are a brown, Muslim woman in infidel lands.
Hey I resent that, I've been labelled the stupidest member of this site and I've worked fuckin' hard at it so don't steal my thunder. Now it's just my opinion, and I've never had the opportunity to ask an Islamic extremest but as best as I can understand from my extreme mental illness (other member's self righteous opinions) the whole conflict stems from religion. Firstly I see the Islamic religion as all wrong. What is morally, spiritually or ethically correct about killing your own people to promote a religious fallacy. I'm not going to even begin to try to defend the the Jewish religion, they're way too kosher and self righteous to even warrant comment. I wouldn't dream of standing advocate for a christian of any kind, they're every bit as dispicable as Clifford Olsen, or Charles Mansen, history and evidence clearly sustains this as fact. I think every religion should be abolished and every religious book recycled into anything that's more productive than a religious book, because everybody is missing the whole point. If there was no religion than there would be nothing to fight about, then maybe everybody would grow up and we could get on with sustainable living, instead of squabbling a bickering like a bunch of school children. I know it's wishful thinking but so is intelligent communication on this site.
The Talmud is an evil supremacist book? Since when? I've been studying Bava Gittin and Bava Kama every other day for a while now... Both are from the Talmud. I've no idea what people think of it, it's rather insane to call it bigoted in any way. The vast majority of it is simple law, people always misquote it though. These intentional misquotes have lead to more Talmudic book burnings than all of the other book burnings in history combined. Since none of you have ever read even a single page of it...then I don't know how you have comment. In fact; if you want to be made look a fool...I'll formally debate anyone on it.
