This is incredibly specific and interesting, if legitimate. Some interesting points made though not unique to BLs ideology. His understanding of how "Democracy" works here "at home" is somewhat comical.
Didnt have time to read it all- only read half, but it seemed to make some good points and made sense too! In what way?? He seemed to make a valid point to me.
Oh great. Somebody allowed them to have internet access at group homes for the profoundly retarded. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Pray tell, what, "good points" did he make? Agree with YKJ's estimation.
Well, he's right about this bit: History does not support the idea that the land originally belonged to Jews. However, then he goes off into why "his people" have the right to be there for religious reasons. Dumb-arse. True. The infant mortality rate in Iraq has gone way up since the introduction of sanctions. I guess this depends: Do you see Bush as enacting the will of the USA people or not? All of Part Two to Question One seems ok. If you accept that "an eye for an eye" is ok. And if you accept the religious arguments tossed in here and there, such as "Allah said it's ok". Basically this section says "The US people condone, and thus approve of, the US bombs hitting the civilians of Baghdad". Again, this depends whether you say yes or no to my question above. Well, look at countries where Islam is the main religion. This is bollocks. Equality of gender? Not really. Sure, tell me I can't say that about a religion, but the fact is Islamic nations generally treat women terribly. Yeah, he's right there. Well, that's a big debate in itself. Nutter. True. Well, in all, he is right in many ideas, deluded in the rest, and uses religion as the the reasons for why he is right far too much. And in the end, whatever your reasons, I dislike people deliberately targeting civilians.
Was the insult necessary? I would like to think difference in opinion invites intelligent debate rather than blatant insults.
www.observer.co.uk/worldv...,00.html Note all religions other than Islam are Satanistic. The only thing Trent Lott and crew would agree with is section (iv) about Clinton. Wow, the Torah is really about muslims? "Allah legislated"? (perhaps a translation glitch?
difference in opinion invites intelligent debate by the intelligent and blatant insults by those without a clue.
Well the fact is Xev that America 'is run by a democracy'. So the american people do have the choice and the say of what the country does.Either America has to admit this or admit that it is not run by a democracy!! Now some may say that Americans only have the power to elect politicians and it is up to them what they do when they have their jobs but im sure they could do something about it! If they really wanted to the whole country could go on a march or something. This is a bit far fetched ill agree but the point is simple. America either is a democracy, majority rules, or it isnt. now which is it!?? Isnt this what a democracy is?? i dont think he did. he targeted the economy (trade towers). Civilians happened to be there thats all. I bet it would have still happened if it had been purely military personnel in there (excluding security of course! this is about morality).
I disagree. I think the attack on the twin towers was done in such a way to maximise the casualty - both human and symbolic casualty. If he had truly wanted to minimise the civilian casualties, he could have perhaps attacked at night or on a weekend where the number of people in the building would have been much less. If he had wanted to challenge the US military, he could have just targeted military bases. If he had wanted to attack the US economy, I'm sure he could have done something over a long period of time with all those wealth at his disposal. The twin towers attack provided impact and visibility. I think that is what he intended. I think that is how he wanted to get the message across.
Sharon is, I believe, wanted in Europe for war crimes. As a soldier he killed HEAPS of civilians over the years.
Nope. Nothing fun is ever necessary. That's nice. So put your words into actions and say something intelligent. Neville: Some would disagree with you there, depending on your definition of "democracy". Do you have a point? Let's suppose America is a democracy. Okay. Lovely. Now, from what I can make of that mess of misspelled gibberish you posted, you're trying to justify Bin Ladin's murder of approx. 3000 humans on 11/9. Lovely. How does the fact that America is a democracy justify murder? Then why not attack at night, when only security was there?
Now Xev, that's what I call an intelligent reply. See, you're learning already. Take it easy, though. First time is always the hardest.
aseedrin: Come back and say that after you've had your own "first time". Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Just poking my head around the door to say... ...He (Binny boy) brings up some valid points about the US but what about the state his country was in. But that was no reason to kill roughly 3,000 people, many of which were not American. He does not see that he has killed people of different nations and many of those nations took a stand. What I'm getting at in a nutshell is....He's a fooking psycho!!! PS - Go Xev, I don't think I'll go get the banner, I might miss something Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
People who said that the 9/11 attack was aimed at civilians are probably correct actually.The attack could have been done at a less bust time. However Bin ladens letter justify's the 'if' question of innocents getting killed. i am not saying i agree with Bin Ladens actions but i am just saying that there must be a reason for something like this. Now others will say yes, but they are mis-guided. reading the letter i can see where Bin Laden is coming from.Xev: The point is that if America is run by a democracy then it is 'run by the people'.This means that the people advocate Amercas actions and therefore are not innocent.They all condone Amercas actions on the east such as the killing of innocents there and as such they are a part of it.The nemisis by Bin Laden is explained in this way. If America is a democracy then the people can change what America does. They all have a say right!?? If it is not then why claim they are!?? They should admit that they are not a democracy. By doing this however they would show that they are no different to the eastern countries who have 1 or 2 leaders who run the country. If they do this they cannot justify what they do nor can they have the consent of the American people for what they do.
...He (Binny boy) brings up some valid points about the US but what about the state his country was in. But that was no reason to kill roughly 3,000 people, many of which were not American. He does not see that he has killed people of different nations and many of those nations took a stand. There is never a reason to kill 3,000 people. There is never a need to kill at all, especially when its about oil and money *looks in Bush's direction* yeah you all know who Im talking about. Well Homeland security just pulled up. They said I wouldnt be that long.
