The United States Navy, Best Military Service in History!!

what about the merchant marine?

 

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http://www.usmma.edu/

http://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=...rTJcc1jWlriw&q=http://www.MaritimeResumes.com

 

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"The merchant marine is a civilian auxiliary of the U.S. Navy, but not a uniformed service, except in times of war when, in accordance with the Merchant Marine Act of 1936, mariners are considered military personnel."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Merchant_Marine

This was a pretty dangerous occupation in the Altantic durring WW II. My father was in the Merchant Marine.

 

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Isn't there a rivalry between them with the Navy thinking less of the merchant marines?

 

Nope, they live in two very different worlds. Navy Sailors rarely even think of the Merchant Marine.

 

Extraordinary rendition isn't accomplished by ordinary soldiers, but by various intelligence agencies and their own special forces.

 

As part of cub scouts my oldest son and I spent the night on a WW2 sub (The USS Silversides). It was damned small! The bunks were seperated by just a couple of feet. It wasn't so bad for one night. But I can't imagine being out to sea in one of those dinky things. It must have been rough.

 

No kidding?!

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My cub scout son did to. In Muskegon?

 

Exactly. It was about 10 years ago. 1998 or 1999.

 

That's esprit.
It's unfortunate there are so many tighty-whitey liberals who get upset about a young man collecting trophies of battle.

 

Is that why they call it esprit teh corpse?

 

The military calls it illegal, Roman.

 

Submarines in WW II were sometimes called pig boats. Even now, naval vessels in general are very cramped and submarines even more so. They are not built for comfort.

 

carriers dont look all that cramped and nither did the catamang which deployed the troops to Timor. In fact you can ride on that ones sister ship from melbourne to hobart, its called the devil cat.

I love reading how shocked the yanks were about how quickly we had troops on the ground there

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Well the military has been taken over by liberals

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I remember the good ol' days where every cavalryman worth his spurs had at least two Apache scalps on his belt.

 

They may not looked cramped, but I suggest you go visit the enlisted quarters...not much room there. These ships are not cruise ships build for pleasure but for the mission the ship maybe called to perform.

 

Navy Seal Training:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YJEhyXSYhA&feature=related

The Army doesn't have anything like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ-5dfPQbbE&NR=1

US Navy Drill Team

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOehGlAVP9E

 

This is in a nutshell what the United States Navy is all about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZQNh4QiGaM

Always forward deployed.

There is nothing quite as beautiful as a naval vessel under power and the feel of the wind in your face...except maybe a beautiful woman.

Navy Blue Angels:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D31WQEact94

The Danger Zone, Aviation at its best:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8rZWw9HE7o&feature=related

 

I'm not even going to read any further into the thread without responding to this. The United States Marine Corps is technically a part of the Navy (The Men's Department), but there is a vast difference between Marines and Sailors. We might work together, but we're a far cry from each other.

 

I do not think anyone is saying there is not a difference between a sailor and a Marine. A sailor is a sailor and a Marine is a Marine. Sailor enlisted training is very different from Marine training. They perform different functions. But sailors and marines work and serve together to project naval power anywhere in the world at any time. And they do it better than anyone else. Their standards are high...not just anyone can become a Marine or a Sailor.

Naval Officer and Marine Officer training is not so different. Graduates of the Naval Academy can choose a commision in the Navy or the Marine Corps. And as previously stated, Marine NCO's train Naval Officers in the Naval OCS.

If you are a Marine, you know that you never go into battle without a sailor by your side. That sailor is your corpsman who cares for you and fights for you should you get injured. If you are a Marine you know the longstanding relationship between corpsmen and Marines. And you know the history of the Marine Corps and why you are called Marines. Having served as a corpsman with the Marine Corps, I have nothing but respect for the Marines...they are all first rate all the way! Marines party hard, but when it comes time for business, they are all business.

Now there is a long standing rivarly between Marines and Sailors. I almost got in a fight with three Marines one night in San Diego until they found out I was a corpsman. Then I was their best buddy. Lucky for them they found out I was a corpsman before things got more physical.

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You also know sailors think you guys are dumb and sometimes call you jar heads. And you guys have a few choice words for sailors as well. This is a long standing rivarly. And I remember the arguments I had with the Marines about what service they were in. My best buddy in high school became a Marine and served in Vietnam.

My point, is the Navy is the most versatile of the services...land, sea, air through a varity of venues. The Marines are a strike force. They hit hard, and fast. Seals are sailors that are trainned to operate in every kind of condition (underwater, from the sea, from the air, mountains, artic, desert, etc). Seal training is much more extensive than Marine training. Sailor training tends to be more technical as Sailors work more with technology and machines. Navy Seals operate in much smaller numbers, and that is something that Army planners have had difficulty understanding in recent years. Army planners are getting better...but from what I have seen they still have trouble understanding how to effectively use naval forces.

Seals do the same thing, they hit hard and fast. I think that is the essence of naval battle strategy. The very essense of the Navy is project global force where supply lines are historically thin. So it is our tradition that we have to hit hard and fast. We have to do more with less...it is our history. This is an operating condition Army and Air Force have rarely faced in their history.

My point is the Navy is the most multi-faceted defense force operating in all environments at all times; in difficult conditions. And is always forward deployed as opposed to the Army and Airforce who are just now learning what it means to be forward deployed on a long term basis.