If Obama and the liberals had had their way last year, where would Iraq be today ?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Cazzo, Jul 23, 2008.

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If Obama and leftists had their way last year, how would Iraq be today ?

  1. Things would have gotten better if the U.S. pulled it's troops out last year.

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    31.3%
  2. Violence in Iraq would have stayed the same if the U.S. pulled it's troops out last year.

    2 vote(s)
    12.5%
  3. The Iraqis would have lost their freedoms and democracy and violence would have increased.

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    6.3%
  4. Things would have become far worse, like what happened to Cambodia in the late 1970s.

    3 vote(s)
    18.8%
  5. I'm not sure.

    5 vote(s)
    31.3%
  1. Cazzo Registered Senior Member

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    Remember last year about this time, when GWB wanted a surge of troops to stop the tide of terrorism in Iraq. Obama, liberals, and left-wing groups wanted just the opposite. Leftists wanted U.S. troops pulled out ASAP.

    Since the surge of troops, not only did the tide of terrorism stop, but the violence in Iraq had decreased dramatically, and things are getting better there.

    Lets suppose Obama and left-wingers had had their way last year, and instead the U.S. pulled most or all of it's troops out of Iraq.
    What do you think Iraq would be like now if the leftists had their way last year ?

    I have a feeling Obama couldn't have even flown to Iraq last week if he had had his way last year........
     
    Last edited: Jul 23, 2008
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  3. Dark520 Rebuilt Registered Senior Member

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    I don't know, I think that's a pretty tough question. Although the surge has certainly helped, and not to demean the soldiers' efforts, I think that there were alot of other factors that have also started moving towards the better that have contributed. In order to guess what the situation might be like today, you would have to take into account far too many variables, I think, to come to any sort of an accurate vision.
     
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  5. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Ah the surge. In Anbar, the surge means all Shiites have either been massacred or run away. The US has military offices in houses where the Shias used to live. They are paying the Sunni "insurgents" to keep away "al Qaeda", which as soon as the Sunnis receive their moolah, miraculously disappear. Yes, the surge is working. The genocide is almost completed.

    http://www.democracynow.org/2007/9/11/exclusive_report_from_iraq_u_s
     
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  7. superstring01 Moderator

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    It would have been under Saddam, where it belonged. The US shouldn't have gotten into the dirty business of trying to build a Jeffersonian republic in the middle east.

    ~String
     
  8. Cazzo Registered Senior Member

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    This thread's about last year's surge decision, not the beginning of the war.....
     
  9. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    There is less violence because we paid certain groups not to kill us, then used the surge to score political points. Now instead of talking about getting us out, stupid Americans only talk about reducing troops to before the increase.
     
  10. Cazzo Registered Senior Member

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    Yea, sounds like you know EVERYTHING they've done over there.......
    That doesn't answer what this thread's about though. What do you think would have happened if Obama and the liberals had their way last year, and pulled the troops out ? What would have happened to the Iraqis ?
     
  11. Cazzo Registered Senior Member

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    LOL, 3 people so far have voted that life in Iraq would have gotten "better" if the U.S. troops were pulled out of Iraq last year as Obama and liberals wanted; while terrorist bombings were a daily event.

    Yet, none of those 3 people explained how they thought life in Iraq would have gotten better.......gee I wonder why.
     
  12. otheadp Banned Banned

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    In deep shit is where.
     
  13. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    they should have used the iraqi army instead now they are trying to rebuild it. the good thing is they admit their errors. no democracy in the ME thats for sure.

    and this all mess is because of the democrats and jimmy carter.
     
  14. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    way to flash your right wing street cred spock
     
  15. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    This whole exercise is bullshit. Your asking to take in to account many complex factors and than extend their effects over a decent period of time. In know possible way is it possible to say what would have happened.
     
  16. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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  17. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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  19. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Like you care. I know there would be less than 4,100 dead Americans now.
     
  20. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, of course you watch that ignorant, hateful and stupid liberal media show.
     
  21. Cazzo Registered Senior Member

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    And yet at least 3 people think life would have gotten better in Iraq the last if Obama had his way, and the troops were pulled out last year.
    Please, any of you, give us insight into how you think things would have become "better" in Iraq ?
     
    Last edited: Jul 24, 2008
  22. Cazzo Registered Senior Member

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    Once again, this thread isn't about that. It's about the conditions in Iraq for the Iraqi people. Would have they improved in the last year if Obama and the leftists had their way last year, and we pulled all the troops out ?
     
  23. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    ??? Niether one of its creaters are liberal
     

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