South Africa... a weird situation

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  1. w1z4rd Valued Senior Member

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    With the current state of 'xenophobic' attacks I find myself in an ironic situation. The current violence is directed towards Africans from other countries, and even people of Middle Eastern origin. Yet the white South Africans here are not being effected by this at all. Its almost as if we have being accepted as being fellow native South Africans :>

    Its just weird not having all the hate directed at us anymore. I guess its now a little more accepted that we have a common heritage and history in this country.

    *random thought*
     
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  3. Dr Lou Natic Unnecessary Surgeon Registered Senior Member

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    That's cool, heartwarming even, I hope you do your part for "south africa" and attack other africans and middle easterners (at least while native south africans are watching), you kind of aren't living up to your side of the bargain if you don't.

    I hope australia can one day become unified like this, with aborigines and white australians forgetting their differences and celebrating their similarities by attacking immigrants.
    Managing to find common enemies is a great way to start mending race relations.
     
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  5. Chatha big brown was screwed up Registered Senior Member

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    Autralia is the most xenophobia state in the world. When Australia was being created they made a "white only" official immigration policy. They should try and take from S. Africa. I'm not too happy about S. Africa's policy either, I mean they could use immigrants to further their economic cause and lower prices, however having said this, one of Nigeria's problems includes illegal immigrants and general disrespect for the border.
     
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  7. oreodont I am God Registered Senior Member

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    I have a good friend who is South African...East Indian. Things were not so great for his family after the end of Apartheid. A brother disappeared and never heard of again. The rest of the family gathered up all they had and left the country. We also have lots of white Rhodesians and Malawis in our city...they were the ones who saw the writing on the wall and left before the '...' hit the fan.
     
  8. alexb123 The Amish web page is fast! Valued Senior Member

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    To be blunt on this it might be that south Africans can see that the only reason it is worth fighting over is that it is the only country in africa that has been governed by whites and due to this it is the only country in Africa worth moving too.

    Africa is fucking disgrace. While the rest of the world especially other poor nations have moved on in so many ways. You have this huge continent that is nothing more than a pile of streaming shat.

    If you look at all of mans great achievements, disease control, famine eradication, law and order, war resolution etc then you look at Africa, you think my god what is wrong with these people.
     
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    S.A is going down the pan and will soon be little better than the rest of Africa.

    Destroyer, disagree with the way I have expressed my opinion but you cannot disagree with the content. The world has by and large moved on a great deal and Africa has not learned to govern herself. The facts speak for them self on this.
     
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    Destroyer I'm not looking to whole continent to resolve its issues but you would think just one of the many countries could have done it by now.

    Maybe Nigeria with all of its Oil wealth could have done it but, no. The problem with Africa is that you cannot even foresee that it sort itself out.
     
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    Thinking about this, this post shows the reason that Africa will never resolve its issues. Because as soon as one country begins to move forward the rest of Africa will flood in and the progress will be destroyed.

    Nigeria has a huge population so no matter how much wealth it gets from oil it won't be enough. Also, the crime and corruption within Africa will always hold it back. Nigeria is another good example of this, with all of the kidnappings related to the oil industry.

    African's for whatever reason live their lives as a free for all and do not have regard for the better good.
     
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    Just read up on Botswana and its good to see that they are making good progress although 1 in 3 with AIDS is still a major problem.
     
  13. w1z4rd Valued Senior Member

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    And so the [-]racist[/-] xenophobic violence continues

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    They are now setting people on fire.... now this I remember was what they (rural folk), loved doing to whites during Apartheid.

    http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?articleid=339600&area=/breaking_news/breaking_news__national/

    Was messed about this. is we have millions of Zimbabweans in South Africa, and they are here to escape Mugabe`s evil. Now, because our president has his ass so far up Mugabe`s ass... refugees from Zimbabwe have never being given asylum because according to our ANC government.. "there is no problem in Zimbabwe".

    If there is one thing I have learnt from living in Africa, its that black people hate black people more than they hate white people (Tribalism was something the Apartheid government used to great effect) TIA. This is Africa.
     
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    I think what is happening is sad but also totally predictable. Million more mouths to feed in an environment that is already subjected to extreme poverty leads to something that is really a fight for survival. Burning alive if fucking savage tho.

    Also, by Africa's standards is their a problem in Zimbabwe? There is no war at the moment so they are doing better than some. But again this shows the problem with Africa not helping herself by helping others.

    Also, Mugabe just does not care about his country. He had a chance to step down and let someone else mess up Zimbabwe but he didn't take it. How does a country end up with a leader like this?
     
  15. w1z4rd Valued Senior Member

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    The continent is mostly run by kleptomaniac rulers. The world lets them gets away with it.
     
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    I have a cousin who lives in South Africa and has been living there for over 25 years now. She sent me an email yesterday telling me that it was getting worse and worse.

    I understand the attacks are against other black migrants? And from what I understand of the situation, it stems from high unemployment and the blacks are blaming those who escaped from Mugabe's regime and migrants from other African countries and so have taken to attacking and killing them. 22 dead confirmed so far?

    It's just horrific.

    We were thinking on going there are the end of this year to go and visit said cousin and take the kids to the national parks, but we've changed our minds after hearing of the horrors over the past week or so.

    My cousin is also looking into migrating elsewhere, because her position there and where she works has become so horrendous. Because she is classified as being 'white', the blacks where she works have taken to launching a racist campaign against her and after being sent to overseas for a work conference, she returned to find that they had advertised her position as being vacant and those working in the pay office had treated her work trip as being a holiday. Because she is bilingual and has a managerial position, her workmates are seeing her as being a throwback of the racist regime. That none of them are bilingual or willing to learn French is beside the point as far as they are concerned. Her boss was not informed of what her workmates had done and when she returned she confronted him and he immediately fired those who did it. So now they have taken to harassing her at home and through emails. I think she's just had enough and just wants to leave. Her husband is also starting to realise the same thing as well.

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    I think this latest bout of violence is becoming a deciding factor in their decision to migrate.

    Pretty sad.
     
  17. Dr Lou Natic Unnecessary Surgeon Registered Senior Member

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    She needs to show allegiance to south africa and light an arab on fire, in the office.
     
  18. w1z4rd Valued Senior Member

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    The violence is now spreading into our major cities... except now its definitly starting to look like tribalism (racisms dad).

    Check this out:

    And this bit explains how ever black people from different parts of South Africa are now being attacked:

    The funny thing is... were hosting the 2010 soccer world cup... I wonder how foreigners are going to be treated then!

    http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?articleid=339522&area=/breaking_news/breaking_news__national/
     
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    Thats a simple one they will rob them.
     
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    I cannot seem to get any BBC videos working today, anyone else having this problem?
     

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