Race riots if Obama loses ?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Cazzo, Apr 11, 2008.

  1. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    No I'm not mad, but a violent protest would justify the reasons as to why he lost.
     
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  3. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    That's my fear. His only hope is turning Oregon and Colorado, which he has a great chance of accomplishing.
     
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  5. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    What about Billy Grahams anti semetic comments to Nixon? This is all about Whites being the Majority. So when something is directed towards them, the outrage will be magnified. One thing I notice in rap battles, when the other MC is non Black, the Black rapper obliterates him with racial insults, especially white and asian rappers. However, when the Asian or White rapper retaliates with racial insults, the crowd goes cold, and outrage ensues, the non black rapper will booed off the stage. And for what? For doing the same thing a Black rapper did to him. The only difference is he's outnumberd by other people that don't look like him. If it was a pro Asian or White crowd, the outrage of the Black Racial slur will be minute.
     
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  7. madanthonywayne Morning in America Registered Senior Member

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    Pretty much every Republican I know is planning to cross party lines to vote for Hillary May 6. My parents even told me they were planning to do that before I even suggested it! When a retired former union steel worker is crossing party lines to prevent Obama from becoming president, I think people are really overestimating his popularity.

    I talk to a lot of people from all walks of life in the course of my day, and most Democrats I know are not happy with either candidate. Not happy to the point of either crossing party lines or not voting.

    The really funny thing is that Democrats are trying to spin the massive increase in Democratic registration as an actual increase in people who plan to vote Democrat. I think they're going to be sorely disappointed come November!
     
  8. Exhumed Self ******. Registered Senior Member

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    I think you're going to be sorely disappointed after 4-8 years of McCain, should it come to pass.
     
  9. madanthonywayne Morning in America Registered Senior Member

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    I doubt it. My expectations aren't that high. I hate that bastard. But at least he's not Obama or Hillary.
     
  10. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    mccain would be a disaster. while hillary or obama may or may not be good i am sure for the average american they will be better
     
  11. Vinyard Banned Banned

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    We can only hope
     
  12. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    If Mccain does get elected he'll turn back to his old self. The Maverick Repulicrat

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  13. Exhumed Self ******. Registered Senior Member

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    To me that reads "but at least he's not going to try to do anything that would avoid utter ruin of the USA".
     
  14. superstring01 Moderator

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    Probably. He's a Goldwater Repub at heart and he's only cozy now with the core of the party in order to get elected. It's a typical game.

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  15. madanthonywayne Morning in America Registered Senior Member

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    Close. I'm hoping he'll not be as likely to cause the utter ruin of the USA as Hillary or Obama. Raising taxes, protectionism, increased regulations. Not a prescription for economic recovery.
     
  16. Exhumed Self ******. Registered Senior Member

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    What you describe is a lot closer to what we had in the 90s... which led to a booming economy and balanced budget (not that I think anyone at this point can be expected to bring that back any time soon). On the other hand McCain would continue the policies that have led us to the brink of disaster.
     
  17. madanthonywayne Morning in America Registered Senior Member

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    The nineties were good economic times because we had dirt cheap gas and the internet tech bubble. Plus, we had divided government for most of the nineties, which kept the government from doing very much. And, the less the government does, the better off we are.
     
  18. Exhumed Self ******. Registered Senior Member

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    I partly agree with your first points. As I said, I don't think the 90's are reproducible. There were a lot more favorable circumstances then, and I don't think the Clinton policies would of continued their success had Bush not taken office (though of course, it would of been way better).

    Doesn't your point on gas illustrate the need for a government that does something? Without government action it will be very much more difficult to do anything about our oil addiction. Likewise with the tech bubble. Maybe without the Bush administration removing the Clinton funding for scientific research (as well as not even adjusting the funding to keep up with inflation) and driving research overseas we could have had a microbiology bubble right now (and hopefully minus the bubble part). Same with the effective stem cell ban.

    You can be sure McCain will be doing some very big things, like Bush. Particularly exorbitantly pricey wars.

    Republicans aren't really the party for small government these days.
     
  19. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Judging by his allies and associates and personal character, his administration is another Reagan continuation (as W's was) - (and as with Reagan, his second wife is probably going to be pretty influential).

    Only compared with the incredible garbage of the 80s and 00s. The decline of the middle class and manufacturing base in the US continued right on through 'em, the Federal budget was borrowing from Social Security to stay level, the banks were deregulated and started their veer into today's wall, the second of the Decline Bubbles (tech) hit its inflation phase, the great Mexican NAFTA collapse started erupting refugees northward, and so forth.
     
  20. superstring01 Moderator

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    That's simplistic. The Mexican population increased by almost 30 million in the nineties. It's still increasing by a ridiculous rate. That has as much to do with their hemorrhaging population as anything else.

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  21. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    That the hope, but after 8 years of ass kissing you got to worry.
     
  22. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    Shifting the tax burden from the middle to the upper class will not leave the country in ruins. Increased regulations will only ensure that no one is taking any shortcuts, if we didn't have strict regulations, we'll end up like China, with a myriad of defective and deadly products. Republicans have controlled all 3 branches of the government, and did nothing to improve anything. Republicans had their chance, and they've been a complete disaster for the common man. Republicans are only interested bailing out the big guy, and their abysmal resume of corporate welfare proves this.
     
  23. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    You know what bothers me? The demonization of either party: each party claims the other is grossly wrong, corrupt, down right evil, although to be fair republicans demonize democrats far more the vice versa. Most of us are moderate on many issues but be dammed if we disagree as we then have to choose sides and then go as far to one side a possible.

    I keep to the general stance that any of the three candidate will be an improvement of the 'Mush for brains. Each candidate has his or her flaws: McCain is really old and suspiciously lacking in knowledge or care in issue likely to matter in the coming years (such as the coming energy crisis). Hillary is well hated for years of scandal and cronyism, obama is wild card and his abilities are completely unpredictable, he could be the next Bill Clinton or he could be the next Ronald Reagan.

    Obama biggest problem is that he is black, this is also his greatest advantage, if he wins he will stand as an icon of American racial equality, the black community will be forced to grow up and stop blaming the government as the government will be headed by one of them, the nation will feel unified and proud of its self, egalitarian even, the coming economic and energy crisis will be viewed as a challenge the nation together can tackle. If he loses the black community will see it as continuing oppression by the white man, ever black preacher will be validated, every educated white's pessimism about the nature of things will be validated, racial disharmony will increase combined with the coming crisis our nation will divided and even weaker.
     

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