Our attitude concerning mockery of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon

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  1. Crunchy Cat F-in' *meow* baby!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Ok let's do the math.

    A) 6 days x 1000 years = 6000 years
    B) 6 days x 50,000 years = 300,000 years

    The oldest human skeleton before we speciate is from 200,000 years ago. That means that 'Allah' would have begun creating the earth (and universe) 206,000 years ago or 500,000 years ago.

    Reality shows us the Earth is approximately 4.6 billion years old and the universe is over 14 billion years old. The Quran is objectively incorrect.
     
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  3. Vkothii Banned Banned

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    I haven't seen an answer, or an attempt to address my earlier query:
    Is this question unanswerable? There is no explanation other than: "it's a holy book, divine wisdom, it must be believed", etc?
     
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  5. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Forget it. If you can believe in Satan and evolution is a fantasy, then you can believe anything. He simply lacks the tools to discern fact from fiction.
     
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  7. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    When I was a kid I asked a similar question of a priest. He told me that a day could have any length god chose, so a day could have been much longer at the beginning. God can do everything. Great answer

    I subsequentlty asked whether Methuselah could have lived as long as it states in the bible. Answer, you've got it, a year could have been much shorter in those days. I then asked why Meth. had been singled out as worthy of mention because most people would have lived the same length of time.

    It ended up by my being told that it is not for us to question god's ways.

    That was fifty years ago. Nothing has changed, Each generation brings fort a crop oif the deluded and the credulous.Something tell me that superstitious beliefs may have some survival value.
     
  8. Sock puppet path GRRRRRRRRRRRR Valued Senior Member

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    Of course they do as tresbien states they give comfort. He doesn't need to think he can just quote/copy paste what he is told.
     
  9. Arsalan Registered Senior Member

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    Nope, it does not say that. Query answered

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  10. Vkothii Banned Banned

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    It doesn't say that "you must believe this holy book'? Or it doesn't say that "unbelievers must be put to the sword by the faithful"?
     
  11. Crunchy Cat F-in' *meow* baby!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Heh, that's the beauty of rationalization. Any fact can ultimately be worked around or just rejected arbitrarily. You are correct in that superstitious beliefs have survival value. People who believe the same thing share resources. People who believe there is a threat afoot will be cautious and if there happens to really be a threat then the caution pays off. You get the point. Ultimately superstition is born of pattern recognition and anthropomorphism/animorphism.
     
  12. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    That sounds convincing; I hadn't given the matter much thought. I suggest there is also the emotional support provided by like-minded people and the comfort of having a father figure who takes a personal interest in you and your affairs.
     
  13. Arsalan Registered Senior Member

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    It doesnt force people to believe and it doesnt say to kill innocent people just because they are not Muslim

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  14. C1ay Skepticist Registered Senior Member

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    Does it say to kill innocent people because they drew a cartoon?
     
  15. marnixR in hibernation - don't disturb Registered Senior Member

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    or because they named a teddy bear mohammed ?
     
  16. Arsalan Registered Senior Member

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    Nope and Nope

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  17. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Q 9: 29. "Until they feel themselves oppressed". Or convert. Or die.
     
  18. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Thats a pretty short sura there. Is that the whole verse?

    I see.

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  19. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    It's the part that gets interpreted domestically, apparently. Lowest common denominator? Maybe.
     
  20. Arsalan Registered Senior Member

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    Does it now? I only see anti-Islamists intepreting these verses into "killing non-Muslims" and whatnot. Anyway, that verse I have dealt with here And my challenge still stands. Naturally, no one has been able to answer it. I wouldnt expect anything else.
     
  21. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Actually, I see islamicists interpreting these verses into killing non-Muslims all the time. Maybe you should read a bit more widely.
     
  22. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    So what verses are the occupation forces using to kill people in Iraq and Afghanistan?

    What verses to detain people in Abu Ghraib and Gitmo?

    Or do you consider these not significant in the War on Terrrrorrrr?
     
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  23. C1ay Skepticist Registered Senior Member

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    And again, what does that have to do with mocking the Prophet? Do you even understand the thread topic? Start another thread if you want to discuss those things. This thread is about killing people over drawing a cartoon!
     

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