God is a liar and I have the proof!

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  1. Why? Registered Senior Member

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    God said, "By the sweat of your brow
    you will eat your food
    until you return to the ground,
    since from it you were taken;
    for dust you are
    and to dust you will return."
    "[T]o dust you will return" is a clear reference to the promised death of Adam and Eve by God. Sorry, you are wrong. God did not mean you will die today. God meant you will become mortal.
     
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  3. John99 Banned Banned

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    Its the point of no return, thats all.
     
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  5. QuestionEverything Assume nothing! Registered Senior Member

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    More circular logic from the master of it!
     
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  7. John99 Banned Banned

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    Additionally, the Serpent wanted them to eat from the tree. The serpent was a deceiver.
     
  8. QuestionEverything Assume nothing! Registered Senior Member

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    :yawn:

    The serpent was a Zoomorphism of a constellation, just like Taurus, Aries, Leo, Hydra, Cancer, Capricorn, etc.
     
  9. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    QE, why do you care? You're an atheist right? Why would you care what a god you don't believe in has to say?
     
  10. QuestionEverything Assume nothing! Registered Senior Member

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    Because the ignorance of the masses is destroying the planet I live on. That ignorance is a disease that must be stamped out!
     
  11. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    But its a specific kind of ignorance I take it. Do you care that some children never learn to read? Are you working to stamp that out?
    So you have come to a science board to spread your intelligence about religion? Why not a religious board?
     
  12. John99 Banned Banned

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    These things people believe in since beginning of time are destroying the planet you live on?
     
  13. QuestionEverything Assume nothing! Registered Senior Member

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    One man can't do it alone, but if one man can create 10 teachers of truth, that man has done much!
     
  14. QuestionEverything Assume nothing! Registered Senior Member

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    When they sit back idly and let the establishment destroy this planet without putting up even a small fight because their beliefs tell them that "God/Jesus" will fix our problems for us...

    YES!
     
  15. John99 Banned Banned

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    Well then you may as well conclude that science and knowledge has destroyed the planet. So why dont you?

    What makes you think the planet is destroyed anyway?
     
  16. SnakeLord snakeystew.com Valued Senior Member

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    Incorrect, the serpent was telling the complete truth. The serpent, in getting them to eat the fruit, is responsible for you having knowledge of good and evil, for you having morals, and yes.. for you even knowing when you're naked. The serpent is ultimately the only reason you even exist.

    Show some respect.
     
  17. QuestionEverything Assume nothing! Registered Senior Member

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    Ironically to date it hasn't been a positive influence. But then when some greedy oil exec buys the technology that would save us and then buries it, what can you expect.

    I don't, but it's on it's way. Just live in any urban area and tell me that it's a natural healthy state for the planet to be in. Then note the fact that this urban construction is spreading like a cancer across the face of the Earth.

    Also, the spread of fascism around the globe is another problem the sheep have allowed. It's got to stop or we are all going to be miserable.
     
  18. John99 Banned Banned

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    You know i am right. I know the story.
     
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  19. SnakeLord snakeystew.com Valued Senior Member

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    Right about what?

    1) Do you agree that god specifically told them not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil?

    2) Do you concur that upon eating from the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil that adam and eve became aware of their own nudity?

    3) If you answer yes to both of the above you are agreeing that the serpent is responsible for your self awareness.

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    1) Did Adam die the day he ate of the fruit and did Adam gain knowledge of good and evil upon eating the fruit? Kindly show where the serpent lied or deceived.

    2) Do you espouse that we should not have knowledge of good and evil? Without it, kindly tell me how you could ever know that your god was good..

    3) Do you deny that god demanded that adam and eve not eat that which would allow them to even know that this god was good? Of course not, so who do you have to thank for having the ability to know good from evil, to know right from wrong? Certainly not god.
     
  20. QuestionEverything Assume nothing! Registered Senior Member

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    Did you know that the serpent in the story is based on the constellation Scorpio? The ancients did not depict Scorpio as a scorpion, but instead as a serpent, and occasionally as an eagle. This serpent was vilified because it was the back-biter that bit the Sun and sent it to it's death in the Fall. This is why the serpent is the symbol of evil in the Bible. Taken a step further, this most beautiful of creatures was demoted as described here:

    Genesis 3:14 (King James Version)

    14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:


    Note that the house of Scorpio (the serpent) is opposite the house of Taurus (the Bull or "cattle") in the wheel of the zodiac. This scripture refers to the ending of the exoteric Age of Gemini(Adam and Eve) and entering into the exoteric Age of Taurus. This astrological event took place approximately 6000 years ago, note the date of Genesis is placed at 6000 years ago. Also the exoteric ages are based on geocentric astrology. The esoteric ages are based on heliocentric astrology. So when it was the exoteric Age of Taurus it was the esoteric Age of Scorpio. Hence the serpent and the cattle.

    So as I've said numerous times this is all astrological allegory, period.

    You lose, do not pass go, do not collect two hundred dollars! :yay:
     
  21. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    but what about all the beasts of the field? You pick and choose what to believe just like a Christian.

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  22. QuestionEverything Assume nothing! Registered Senior Member

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    That's a fair and valid question which I am very happy that you asked. The "beasts of the field" are the remaining houses of the zodiac, the zodiac is the field.
     
  23. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    so what kind of beasts are Virgo, Capricorn, Aquarius, Gemini, and Libra? What field are Cancer and Pisces in?

    so field isn't a real field. Its a zodiac wheel? THAT is a LOT of twisting and turning to get it to mean what you want.
     

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