gravity as source of electric power. A finished research

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  1. SISGroup Registered Senior Member

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    Now, we can have electric power without any fuel, sea wave, wind or waterfall, we just need gravitation force.

    I had finished my research to make design of power plant that run by gravity. In simulation by computer, it can produce torsion force about 5-20 newton meter every cycle, every one unit. Size of one unit is 4 meter high 4 meter long and 0.5 meter wide. So, several unit can be joined to produce bigger torsion.

    You may not believe, but if you want to check it out, you can contact Mechanichal engineering of Diponegoro University, in Semarang, Indonesia.

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    But sory, I dont remember the phone number or fax of my university. There are many ways to find a phone/fax number, isn't it?

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  3. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Ok, I'll bite.

    How does your machine work, SISGroup?
     
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  5. postoak Registered Senior Member

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    When can you have one up and running?
     
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  7. Pollux V Ra Bless America Registered Senior Member

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    Images?
     
  8. goofyfish Analog By Birth, Digital By Design Valued Senior Member

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    University information:

      Kampus Tembalang, Semarang 50239
      Central Java - Indonesia
      Phone : +62-24-7460038
      Fax : +62-24-7460038
      Telex : 22315 - SMIA

    But nothing will come of it. Remember this thread?

    Peace.
     
  9. SISGroup Registered Senior Member

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    James R
    It just two pendulum which support each other in the rotating disc.

    Postoak
    I will make it for research of my graduate degree (now, I am a student of undergraduate degree, and this power plant is used for my theses)

    Pollux V
    Some of my friends dan lecturers advise me not to expose the image, not yet.

    goofyfish
    Newton, Einstein, Dirac and many other physicsts were begin their research to new age of physic science when their age between 20-30. I am 25 now.

    Thank you to all of you
     
  10. goofyfish Analog By Birth, Digital By Design Valued Senior Member

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    Happy birthday - what's your point?

    Peace.
     
  11. Pollux V Ra Bless America Registered Senior Member

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    Okay, then, sir knight, if your quest is true, then may you endeavour to complete it. Good luck.
     
  12. Enqrypzion Registered Senior Member

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    send me a copy of your research when you've graduated on it please! if you're right, it's wonderful, if you're playing around, it's pathetic...
     
  13. usescope Registered Member

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    could you explain basically how it works?
     
  14. SISGroup Registered Senior Member

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    My point is that the progress of physic science usually done by young people, age between 20 -30. We have a new character of gravity which may become correction/additional for newtonian physic.
     
  15. SISGroup Registered Senior Member

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    Usually people (or physicsts) measure the energy of gravity by multiply the vertical distance with mass of object. we have to ignore this "point of view", cause gravitation force will always act on particles, wherever its high, as long as on the earth. So, gravity is a"constan flow" from above.

    My mechanism use this energy to run, like a turbine.
    If usual turbine run by fluid flow, my mechanism run by flow of gravitation energy.
     
  16. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    SISGroup

    We have a new character of gravity which may become correction/additional for newtonian physic.

    A few queries, if you please:

    Which character of gravity do you refer ?

    Which newtonian physic requires correction/additional ?

    What will the characater of gravity correct/add to newtonian physic ?

    What is the meaning of SIS ?

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  17. SISGroup Registered Senior Member

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    1. Gravity as a flow, not only attraction force
    2. the law of kinetic energi versus potential energy.
    3. beside kinetyc energy, gravity can produce torque force.
    4. Semarang Interdisciplinary Studies, this group help me to build my self confident during research. I use this name to honour this group---now the group is not exist.
     
  18. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    SISGroup

    Usually people (or physicsts) measure the energy of gravity by multiply the vertical distance with mass of object

    Potential Energy ?

    So, gravity is a"constan flow" from above.

    Could you expand on this ? How does gravity flow ? Why would it come from above ?

    My mechanism use this energy to run, like a turbine.
    If usual turbine run by fluid flow, my mechanism run by flow of gravitation energy.


    I like the idea. How does it change "the flow of gravitational energy" into electrical energy ?
     
  19. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    SISGroup

    Gravity as a flow, not only attraction force

    How do you define "flow?"

    the law of kinetic energi versus potential energy.

    The amount of kinetic energy depends upon the mass and speed of the object while the amount of potential energy possessed by an object depends on its mass and its height. One is transformed into the other as the mass rises and falls however, the total amount of energy remains constant.

    What, in your opinion, is corrected/added to the above process from the "flow" of gravity ?


    beside kinetyc energy, gravity can produce torque force.

    How does gravity produce torque force ?


    Semarang Interdisciplinary Studies, this group help me to build my self confident during research. I use this name to honour this group---now the group is not exist.

    Would this be the "Semarang Interdisciplinary Studies" to which you refer:

    http://www.legenda.tvheaven.com/photo2.html

    A quote from the site:

    (If gravity was came from energy, we may create energy from gravity. And yes we can make it.Check AROM Power Plant)

    Could this be the mechanism to which your thread has been dedicated ?

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    AROM - Auto-Reversed Order Mechanism - http://www.legenda.tvheaven.com/photo5.html
     
  20. SISGroup Registered Senior Member

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    It is the duality of gravity. It is an attraction force in one side, and a "flow" at the other side. The flow is energy, not partikel, so it can accelerate anything which move in same direction of the flow.

    Kinetic energy that balance with potential energy only occur when the system is linear. And you right, energy remains constant.
    Let we try to take energy of gravity without considering the height.
    A material will always attracted by gravity, an it can produce force, as Newton said F = m.a, F: force, m: mass, a: acceleration. So, we dont have to consider the height of mass.
    Use this force to run the mechanism. Let the gravity flow and forced the mass, dont let the mass produce kinetic energy.
    So I add a statement that kinetic energy = potential enegy if the system linear

    a horizontal bar will have a torque if we put a bearing in the edge of the bar joined with static wall, we have a torque force caused by the weight of bar that attraced by gravity.

    And yes, it is the home page of the group, I try to contact the webmaster to up grade it. But I still cannot find him.
     
  21. SISGroup Registered Senior Member

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    Request Help

    I make my own method to do the research, and last night I found a book REVERSE ENGINEERING written by Kathryn A. Ingle. Amazingly, my method only has little differences with reverse engineering method.

    I would like to disscus about this new method with the writer. But I cannot find the email address of Kathryn A. Ingle. Could somebody help me to find it? Or give me informations about the writer?
     
  22. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    SISGroup

    It is the duality of gravity. It is an attraction force in one side, and a "flow" at the other side. The flow is energy, not partikel, so it can accelerate anything which move in same direction of the flow.

    Your understanding of gravity differs from that of mine. Could you please explain your definition of "flow." How does gravity accelerate objects in your example?

    Kinetic energy that balance with potential energy only occur when the system is linear. So I add a statement that kinetic energy = potential enegy if the system linear

    Is there any other kind of kinetic energy which is non-linear ?

    Let we try to take energy of gravity without considering the height.
    A material will always attracted by gravity, an it can produce force, as Newton said F = m.a, F: force, m: mass, a: acceleration. So, we dont have to consider the height of mass.


    Where is the mass located if height is not considered ?

    Use this force to run the mechanism. Let the gravity flow and forced the mass, dont let the mass produce kinetic energy.

    In other words, make sure the mass remains at rest. And again, you'll have to define the term, "flow," in regards to your theory because I simply cannot grasp this concept.

    a horizontal bar will have a torque if we put a bearing in the edge of the bar joined with static wall, we have a torque force caused by the weight of bar that attraced by gravity.

    There is no way to utilize this torque unless the mass begins to move, it cannot remain at rest and do work.
     
  23. Enqrypzion Registered Senior Member

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    The Earth's gravity field isn't constant everywhere. I wonder, if you take 2 places, only a meter or so apart, with some difference in the gravity field, it might be possible to place a wheel on it, with one part over the more attractive area and one over the lesser. wouldn't that wheel start turning?

    and, wouldn't there everywhere be spots with gravity differences? if we only could exploit those..
     
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