Windows XP Sucks

XP Pro vs Win 2000 Pro

Well, I heard that the Xp pro version of XP is much better than the standard version. Ive not tried it myself. I did try XP and it sucked! I tried win 2000 pro and think it rules compared to the others. However, I would like some feedback on XP Pro or corp. edition before I try it. I just hate setting all this stuff up again if I dont have to.


Bob:bugeye:

 

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LoL, WIndows XP RULES!!

It is the best operating system to date. It is the most secure, with 128 bit Internet Explorer 6.0 technology.

Run Windows Update often. Especially the critical updates

I'm pretty much with Avatar on this. You must have Zone Alarm Pro Version 3+ for ultimate protection.

No one can hack you with a NAT firewall, Windows XP Built in firewall, and zone alarm pro 3+

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I don't know why you guys are hating on windows XP, it is the most reliable and stable system to date. Windows 98 SE crashes alot and you can bypass the security easily.

Also i have a very FAST computer

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So you don't see me complaining.

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Note: I have a Windows XP Professional Corporate edition, you don't need to register it also

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Avatar and I are enjoying all the benefits of "free software" right man?

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ummmm ----- r. i. g. h. t.

I haven't said anything
any associations with the letter combination are pure coincidence

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btw- if you use many simultaneous firewalls you can get problems because they dig themselves deep into registry

I have tested Zone Alarm 2.84 with Black Ice Deffender though

Norton firewall (their Anti Virus totally sucks ass) is very good
also Sygate Personal Pro 5 (very good)

 

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The only versions of XP that I know of, are Pro, Home, and 64-bit. I do not know about this 128-bit coding for IE 6x I can tell you IE 6x is full of Java scripting holes and the back button problem.

Let's say you were able to patch the security holes, and block MS from stealing your info; and don't mind how much XP takes away from your system compared to other OS. Is it really worth all of the effort? What benefit do you get out of it, other than a stable OS, which you can find in 2000.

Also there have been numerous reports of compatibility problems with older progams.

 

That's why I'm using Opera

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XP Pro is the way to go. THe rest are cutoffs

it's worth it and you can run games from XP (2000 has immense problems with that)

 

XP 64-bit is the only reason to use XP, when AMD's new processors come out, hopefully in time they will support enhanced x86 instructions with XP 64-bit, the file system will always be 64-bit.

The Opteron will be an MP (and amazingly, an 128-bit processor) I believe the Thoroughbred is simply the new core for the existing Athlon XP, rounding out the HammerClaw. The Athlon SledgeHammer will be the ultimate stand alone CPU on earth.

I can run SWAT 2, Baldur's Gate, Might & Magic 6, and Wheel of Time on 2000, all of these were designed for 98, if not 95 in the development stages (in the case of a few games).

I believe 2000 does not come with a mini MS-DOS mode (the command line is 32-bit from system32), I think XP does because I have heard you can use DOS based stuff on it, but this mini DOS mode is not loaded on start up as part of the OS, and only used as required when optional programs request it. I would guess maybe you can't run DOS games on 2000 (I haven't tried loading BattleSpire), but that's no big deal for me, most games that run in DOS, the graphics are too poor for the game to be enjoyable (i.e. DaggerFall, unaccelerated software driven 320x240 pixel blocks, major yuck!).

 

AMD isn't the one who keeps changing specs, I think it is the public community.

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_608,00.html

 

I wonder how 64-bit will really preform, will it be usefull for the average desktop computer or not? I haven't read any specs yet because I think this is the sort of thing that would best be left to real testing, not guesses. (I mean, it's double! big jumps perhaps cannot have preformance estimated accuractely). I wonder how programmers will like it; what are the registers gonna be called?!

I dunno what you are talking about: Internet Explorer 6 128bit - it's been like that forever and it runs on Windows 2000 and 98 and 95...

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Not a reason for XP in any case.

I would rate XP at the same level as ME - as far as the chances of me using it in the near future.

My video card is a Radeon VE, not very good. I mostly do programming or just messing around on the internet, I don't get the chance to play games (can't afford em). It's should be a more than decent video card when it comes to handling the OS' gui. But, XP, even after I've tweaked it to look and feel just like Windows 2000 - ran like crap. It locked itself (explorer) all the time forcing me to wait for a half a minute to access the startbar again. Lots of minor annoyances like that, that to me proved I had no use for the OS.

 

OH yeah, forgot...

I don't know about support for MS-DOS in XP; Windows 2000 has that emulation mode, where I guess it runs a virtual machine with MSDOS or Windows 95-98-NT API. But other than that it didn't have anything.

Windows 2000 however could emulate support for OS/2 and i think HP-UNIX (can't remember what it was, but I had LS[.exe] running under windows 2000 and it rocked!)

 

I love Windows XP. It's far ahead of software like RedHat and Solaris. The interface of Solaris looks like Windows 3.1. I've never had an issue with XP and I run it for many days at a time. People complaining about uptime, XP isn't a server OS. It's for the desktop. Go get Linux/UNIX for server needs.

 

Well i don't see what all of u got against XP? best solution MS has come up with so far for sure (that is the hacked version without harware change limitations and MS spyware) But, you are all right too XP sucks!!!!!!!! Get a mac.

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OS X rcks! (that is... for everything except gaming, which is not really apple's fault)

 

XP simply has superior support for games than OS X.... if Mac ever got smart and got some gaming support it would be the best OS...but XP is definitely more stable than 9x/ME and a lot less bloated than 2000. Plus it looks better to boot. When you throw in backwards compatibility for almost all previous apps/games it simply rocks.

 

DirectX is microsoft patented technology, so MAC/Apple can't have support for most games, or microsoft would blast them with a law suit.

I am surprised they haven't blasted all of the linux knock offs with law suits because of their emulators.

Now, there could for OpenGL games, which actually would be a good idea.

Or games that use no hardware acceleration at all and have their own code and engine (though such things are rare, and you usually have limited graphical capabilities with these types of games; because the programmers and artist would have the write the game all on their own with no universal support).

And no 2000 is not as bloated as XP, XP is more bloated, it just keeps all of the logging and other crap hidden in the background where it is harder to find, which is why it takes almost twice as much RAM just to run.

I don't have any problems playing games with 2000. If you are sticking up for XP for it being stable, that is a poor argument seeing all of the problems it has (being stable one advantage, verse like 10 disadvantages). And yes, none of this I can only change my hardware so many times without letting microsoft know. My computer is not on loan to MS, it belongs to ME, I should be able to do with it what I want.

 

Many good points Claren.

I resent the statement made by Charlie… “if Mac ever got smart and got some gaming support” since I specificly pointed out that this is NOT apple’s fault. The platform is just fine for gaming and apple offers any of latest graphics card. It’s the gaming companies/MS’s fault. A programmer has even told me that changing code to be compatible with os X is not difficult at all, relatively speaking. I believe that many Gaming companies that don’t expect to sell very may titles could easily enlarge their market by incorporating Mac from the start. The Mac community jumps on any game released, even stupid ones.

Claren, could you clarify what u mean w/ the law suit/DirectX thing. I didn’t know that since I have seen some fairly recent titles for Mac: Medal o Honor, No one lives forever, Warcraft III (The first title released on Mac and PC simultaneously… progress, wo hoo!) does the DirectX thing affect those games?

XP is the bloated one out of the 2. I happen to know Charlie, and he wouldn’t be praising XP or using it for that matter if it wasn’t the hacked version, i.e. the hacked version without hardware change limitations and MS spyware… so those things aren’t cons for him. The only reason I prefer XP is because of the visual improvements.

 

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LOL at ~the chosen’s post gloating over the great Xp. The bestest, most securest, most stable OS in the whole world EVER AMEN… LOL riiiiiiight… be sure to rember to get the critical updates. Rotfl… Hey check this out if u got a chance. More about win ME but still hilarious. http://www.chron.com/content/news/mm/02/07/06/flashmovies/WindowsRG.swf

 

Well DirectX is copyrighted by microsoft. Some games can only run with Direct3D and DirectDraw components present (so if you don't have these DLLs and what not, you can't even open the game).

MAC could take these drivers and apps and put them in a MAC, but microsoft would sue for theft. Apple has no license to do that.

But then, games are built on different structures. Changing the code, engine, or using an emulator make this type of thing possible, but stealing someone's technology is illegal (and that's basically what most emulators do).

DirectX sucks anyhow, we all need to switch over to OpenGL (GL 2.0 will be coming out sometime soon enough).

 

XP

windows xp is by far the worst OS i have ever used, every game i have attempted to install has failed, so much for most compatible, i would rather gouge out my eyes then try MY whole stack of games just to find that only the microsoft games work and all my GOOD games fail and disintegrate in my cd drive...

 

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P.S. they dont disintegrate, that comes with the new version of windows, all non MS games are transformed into a windows XP disk with the autoexe missing, dont i love microsoft

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here is a good example when the problem is located between the chair and the keyboard

...haven't had an error since january, when I installed xp
don't blame the OS just because you cant set it up

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p.s. I think that you maybe have a hardware compability issue

 

I have been on XP Pro for quite a while now and its the best and most solid since Win 98. It wasn't!!! But I upped to 512kb RAM and it swims with the sharks now. I cannot ever imagine going backwards now. Also, keep your pc defragged and clean out the registry often, clutter builds up in there like nobody's business. I use a program called Regscrub XP - a freebie from somewhere. Don't have too many programs running on boot up (icons by your pc click) these can, on a smaller RAMed pc, slow it down dramatically.

You also have to make sure that all your drivers etc are XP compatible - if unsure, goto the makers home sites where they have patches/downloads available. My own biggest problem was my video card GeForce 2 64mb Titanium - drivers - Nvidia. It took me a while but eventually I found the best driver and now runs really smoothly.