What's the skinny on being fat?

Discussion in 'Science & Society' started by Why?, Sep 4, 2007.

  1. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    Nope I was "taught" to take it. It bothered me. Now I try to give it back, I find it does not bother me anymore.
     
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  3. mikenostic Stop pretending you're smart! Registered Senior Member

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    I don't despise anyone. I can't stand cigarette smoke. It gets into everything. Tobacco isn't allowed to be smoked in my house, even though I can tolerate cigar smoke (I do occasionally partake in a blunt though LOL). It's been so long since I've smelled pipe smoke, I forgot if there is much difference between that and the cigar(ette)s.
     
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  5. Why? Registered Senior Member

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    Pipe smoke has a sweet, instead of rancid, smell.
     
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  7. Exploradora Registered Senior Member

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    Um, why do you feel like you need to be cruel to obese people? Is it because you have a phobia of fat people? It's like being cruel to gay people because they're gay, being cruel to muslim people because they're muslim, being cruel to poor people because they're poor, being cruel to anorexics because they have anorexia... It's all just some strange fear. It's a hateful kind of fear, but fear none the less.
     
  8. Why? Registered Senior Member

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    Moreso, fat people appear to have a genetic disability. Gays are probably a hormonal disability occuring at birth. Muslims choose to be Muslims. The poor are ignorant or lack opportunities. Anorexics have mental problems.
     
  9. mikenostic Stop pretending you're smart! Registered Senior Member

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    Who's being cruel to obese people? Didn't I mention that I would never be impolite to an obese person? I can be polite and courteous to an obese person whilst at the same time, having a complete lack of respect for their lack of effort to not be fat, without being mean about it.

    But, the bottom line is, if they want to stay fat, immobile and an angina risk, that's entirely their prerogative.
     
  10. Why? Registered Senior Member

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    Of course, an obese person can hold a superhot skinny person. This would change your mind, not doubt. But, aren't we shallow people?
     
  11. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    Sure, no point in being a dick. But isn't it impolite to BE obese?
    I am constantly getting stuck behind some gargantuan, Baron-Harkonnan-like hunk of slowly walking flesh who I cannot get around.

    Since when is it polite to be so damned fat that people can't move around you?

    And as for this purported gene - I feel it. I stay about my current weight (not skinny, but I don't get that big) whether I'm hiking hours a day or staying at home playing WOW, smoking up and watching anime. But guess what? If you don't eat enough calories to store fat, you will not get fat. Simple.

    Now if I knew a lot of pudgy girls who WEREN'T unkind, drama-generating, backstabbing biatches, and if I could go to the mall or the supermarket without getting stuck behind land-whales, I would be more sympathetic. Until then - eat less! We have the ability to suppress hunger, so do it.
     
  12. Why? Registered Senior Member

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    But the lack of a skinny gene makes it tougher to suppress hunger. No pity?
     
  13. Exploradora Registered Senior Member

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    You may not be cruel to fat people to their face, but you are promoting the belief that fat people are weaker than skinny people. This belief leads to cruelness and hate. It's like living in the 1950's and saying black people are dumb in front of white people, but being nice to black people in person. It's still wrong, and it still leads to cruelness, and it's still hateful. I am not saying that fat people don't need to make certain lifestyle changes, or that they are not responsible for changing their lives. I am saying, however, that hateful speech leads to a discrimination of fat people in society. This can make healthy choices (like going to the gym, taking a walk, being active in their lives) more difficult.
     
  14. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    Sorry, but you just cannot control what people think(yet).
     
  15. Why? Registered Senior Member

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    Let's also not forget that there are a lot of fat people. This creates quite a deal of political clout.
     
  16. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    There is also quite a lot of crappy food out there. This creates a lot of shit.
     
  17. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    Are you familiar with a concept known as "self-control?"
     
  18. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    "Look, you can't take away people's right to be assholes"

    And when they stop plodding slowly along, looking at me in all offense when I walk between them to get around, they can complain about people being rude. Until then - MOVE, LAND WHALE!
     
  19. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    What about when they move through stores in those motorized scooter things that stores lend out to customers? Aren't those supposed to be for the extremely old or disabled people?
     
  20. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    Exactly, shouldn't they be letting the people who have actual medical problems use those?
    Besides, they still get in the way because they'll block the fracking aisle looking for just the right brand of cheesy puffs when I'm just wanting to get my JOGAN ROSH PASTE FOR MY CHICKEN AAAAAAHHHHH I WILL KILL YOU FAT BASTARDS!
     
  21. mikenostic Stop pretending you're smart! Registered Senior Member

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    I don't hate obese people. I hate obesity. I hate the lack of motivation that obese people have to make themselves not obese (notice I didn't say skinny).
    Unless you're Michael Jackson, black people can't do anything about being black, and why would they want to do anything about it. There's nothing wrong with being black; obesity is different. And being black isn't unhealthy like being obese is. That's an apples/oranges comparison there.


    It's still wrong, and it still leads to cruelness, and it's still hateful. I am not saying that fat people don't need to make certain lifestyle changes, or that they are not responsible for changing their lives.
    Fat people bring on discrimination themselves.
    Obese people got all butt hurt when airlines started charging them double fare because they took up two seats. What is unfair about that? If your fat ass takes up two seats, then you should be paying for two tickets.

    If you're an out of shape, fat turd, you also limit yourself to pretty much sedentary jobs.

    This should also be blamed on irresponsible parenting, as today's kids are getting chunkier. Do not let them spend all afternoon on their duffs playing video games or surfing the net. Kick their asses out of the house and make them go play baseball with their friends or ride a bike. Do not let them munch on Oreos and Coca Cola all damn day.
     
  22. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    how many of these obese people who put it all down to genetics eat a reasonable diet, workout alot, go running, play sports and go swimming etc?

    there are people who are big built naturaly and have a slow met, and thats fine. alot of slighlty chunky people are perfectly healthy, and i dont say thats a bad thing. but then you have supersized obese monsters who are on par with sumo wrestlers in size. some bastards cant even fit out of the front door, and have to be craned out of the roof. now that is no way down to genetics alone. its down to greed and glutony, combined with pure lazyness.

    if you go running, workout at the gym, play sports and lead an active lifestyle while eating a half decent diet, and your still 300 lbs of pure fat, then i might believe the claims. but until then in my opinion its not true.


    peace.
     
  23. mikenostic Stop pretending you're smart! Registered Senior Member

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    And who here thinks it's polite when a fat person thinks they look good in Spandex, or a tube top, and wears them out in public?


    I'd have a banter/insult field day with those heifers. It's easy to be mean to unkind drama queens.
     

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