Who were the "good guys" during WW1?

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They did.

We weren't.

 

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however franz was killed due to Serbia bieng frightend of bieng folded into the austria/hungrian empire. so in some cases he would have been considerd a patriot. oh by the way when i mean him i mean ( Gavrilo Princip)

 

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If you read various historical documents correctly the Germans were going to put their full weight on the UK - but decided to go to the Russian front first hoping that it would have been over in a short time - Hence the attire of the Germans which was not suitable for the fierce cold weather in Russia.

I don't know which history books you have got your information, but that goes back to my other statement "How historically correct is history"

If you wish to believe "your" version that's fine by me. I got my version from WW2 veterans.

 

Da, and needed air superiority to invade with any chance: the "fleet" was worthless, made up of impressed river barges and ad-hoc extemporisations.

Several hundreds actually.

And most WWII vets were too caught up in the immediacy of their own situation to see the overall picture.
Those that I've talked to (no idea of your age, but I knew a fair few in my youth, from both sides) were of a different opinion.

 

The invasion of britian was imposible they only maeged to get jersey and by them i mean axis,first they needed to get air superiority as oli said but Hitler nakerd that up and then they would need a way to cross eg navy and how can they compete with the best naval power of the world at the time?

 

Thank god we live on an island ay? that is why i think that we wouldent have been defeated in ww2 if the americans never came in, we would just keep geting money of the u.s and just fending them of.

 

Yep The Germans invaded Russia instead of us in mid 1941, six months before the USA was involved - we weren't ready, and we wouldn't have stood a chance without the help of the America.

Are you really sure we would have held off Germany on our own?

 

nah more of the fact that germany couldent have invaded, so we would be fine till they build a navy big enough to take ours and by then i think peace would come though.

 

How would they get across the channel against the Royal Navy?
They tried to achieve air superiority and failed, the invasion was a non-starter.

 

they could have though if hitler hadent fucked it up.

 

Weird new question: Which major player had the worst overall tactical position in Europe in WW2?
I would assume France, they were surrounded by the enemy on all sides (not that you can really count Italy, who they fended off once already beaten by Germany, or Spain, which was royally fucked after the civil war)

 

yea i would go for france to or poland.

 

I'd say Poland first (They never knew what hit 'em) - Then France.

 

How?
By not letting Germany have a big enough navy?
There was only so much money and industrial capacity to go round.

Strategic position surely, not tactical.
France had Germany on only one side (Italy didn't come in until the end for France was a foregone conclusion).
Czechoslovakia?
Poland?
The Netherlands?
Belgium?
For geographical position at least.

 

no he had switch from the bombing of airfields to the bombing of cit'es witch ended up giving britian enough time to bolster the raf and fight them of.

 

Considering we were producing Spits and Hurris faster than we were losing them:

(typical figures
Total Hurricane loss August/September - 244
Total Spitfire loss August/September - 147
= 391
Spitfires/ Hurricanes available August - 708
Spitfires/ Hurricanes available September - 746)

the switch was made BECAUSE they'd already lost the air war.

 

Whats the difference between a strategic position and a tactical position?
Also (this may piss off the brits), I was reading about France's crushing defeat, and it seems that though it was mainly due to the Belgian government's refusal to allow the extension of the Maginot line onto Belgian soil (the line itself seems to have been rather effective - the Germans were incapable of taking the forts until the Vichy government demanded surrender), it was also due to the French army's cover of the British retreat, during which said army was obliterated. The British, who had apparently promised to return to Nothern France to help fend off the Germans, never came back. Oh yeah, and the French army's incapable commanders also played a major role in their defeat.

 

lol yea we kinda screwd over the french there he he.. sry guys.

 

we did come back!!!...eventuly