Is science being used to control society?

I can't read other's minds. However, I've stumbled upon opinions resembling those of Gatto (who's way far away from being a lefty, btw). The fact that you will no see/hear discussions of such opinions in corporate media says a lot. Besides, I have my eyes and ears.

 

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There is a book called "Manipulation of consciousness" by Kara Murza. Interesting read but it's not in English. Manipulations are not something BIG and diabolic, it's carefully concocted mixture of the small things leading to the desired goal.

The "it's a conspiracy" Baron is using is one of such small things. Call something "it's a conspiracy theory", call somebody "conspiracy theorist" and it triggers automatic blocking of audience's brains thus discarding the undesirable views without intelligent arguing. Needless to say that such a "brain blocking" trigger words are not absorbed with mother's milk, they are patiently taught.

 

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"Carefully concocted" by whom? And conducted by whom? And how could it possibly be as widespread as you've indicated without a single complaint about it from anyone?

And of all those people involved, why hasn't one single individual come forth to testify to those "carefully concocted manipulations"?

And ....what are you smokin'? Do you, perhaps, smoke it too much?

Baron Max

 

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I don't believe for one second that this was on anyone's mind in the 50's when TV was introduced.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/04/040406090140.htm

But this society is doing giant uncontrolled experiments on itself.

But the general rule in societies has been the smart people in power try to keep the dumb, DUMB.

psik

 

And since ignorance is bliss, those in power are trying to keep us happy.

Baron Max

 

Indeed,

and hence the invention of the internet which caused people to gain knowledge from geocities sites instead books.

and internet discussion forums of course.

your monkey

 

Gee, Baron, don't stick your head into arse deep, get out of there and smell the roses once in a while. USA has the biggest and the most advanced marketing and advertisement industry, American PR consultants are "aranging" elections in "new democracies", add there think tanks, psych Ops branches of CIA and FBI (sure, those don't exist), total corporate control of mainstream media, universities, education. Fucking cold war was won mainly by unknown American Psych OP officers who've brainwashed entire enemy country into submissive destruction, but nobody even speak about them.

As I said, manipulations are not guided from Galactic Center. But since all that matters in this life is money and power, they buy needed manipulations in the dispersive manner and don't even hide it.

 

When I get in mood, I'll translate few pieces of the book I"ve mentioned before for Baron to get out of the comfy cocoon at least once in life time.

 

THE CENTURY OF THE SELF
Monday 29 April - Thursday 2 May 2002 7pm-8pm


Adam Curtis' acclaimed series examines the rise of the all-consuming self against the backdrop of the Freud dynasty.

To many in both politics and business, the triumph of the self is the ultimate expression of democracy, where power has finally moved to the people. Certainly the people may feel they are in charge, but are they really? The Century of the Self tells the untold and sometimes controversial story of the growth of the mass-consumer society in Britain and the United States. How was the all-consuming self created, by whom, and in whose interests?

The Freud dynasty is at the heart of this compelling social history. Sigmund Freud, founder of psychoanalysis; Edward Bernays, who invented public relations; Anna Freud, Sigmund's devoted daughter; and present-day PR guru and Sigmund's great grandson, Matthew Freud.

Sigmund Freud's work into the bubbling and murky world of the subconscious changed the world. By introducing a technique to probe the unconscious mind, Freud provided useful tools for understanding the secret desires of the masses. Unwittingly, his work served as the precursor to a world full of political spin doctors, marketing moguls, and society's belief that the pursuit of satisfaction and happiness is man's ultimate goal.

Baron, get acquainted with a piece, it's in English, but you feel way too comfortable deep inside to smell the roses.

 

Wow, Dixon, you smoke a lot of that stuff, don't ya'?

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Baron Max

 

Shouldn't you exlore a change to your nick, something like Baron Zombie, finest product of the American societary selection

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? Your insistence that world/nation events are totally random, that mighty ones just let plebians to think/do what they want, suggests that you can't enjoy smoking any stuff, implanted chips are not that complex yet.

 

Please learn the difference between science and technology. Science is a method.

The only way you could 'control society' with science would be if you could carry out controlled experiments on society and verify their outcomes. To do that, you'd already have to 'control society'.

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Social sciences are not science strictly speaking. Obviously, one doesn't use a quantum physicist to tilt the outcome of elections. One doesn't use a chemist to "encourage" people to buy stuff they don't need. One would order "social" professionals. Even though social professionals cannot guarantee a specified response to their efforts, complex correlations between the efforts of "social scientists" and response of the zombied public do exist. Thus, it's "science" in its infancy.

 

"Being piped in"? As in, you don't have a choice?

It's your decision whether or not to own a television or radio or internet connection.

And if you do, it's then your choice which channel or station or website you want to view or listen to.

And after all that, it's your own responsibility to think about and evaluate what you see and hear.

 

What kind of studies do you think led to invention of television?

 

How do you exercise your responsibility to think when you are bombarded with distorted information and important information is not even mentioned? How do you figure out what you are NOT TOLD? Will it occur to you to ask?

It has been almost 6 years since 9/11. How many times have you heard the number of tons of steel on the floors where the planes hit the towers mentioned?

http://www.freethoughtforum.org/forum/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=645

psikey

 

Yes the nazis developed some pretty precise and disgusting psychology in their attempt at world take over. Now we know they lost WWII, but their filthy studies/tests on humans did indeed prove alot about the human psychology.

My advice to you: Turn off your TV

 

Oh, I will certainly admit that both the media and the educational system are screwed up beyond repair. But what I see isn't the result of some vast, nefarious plot... rather I see the result of an uncontrolled fumble of bureaucracy and selfcenteredness repeated a million times over.

In schools, teachers and staff want one thing: quiet. Every time something happens, at best they will have to work harder and at worst they are going to be sued. So they end up wanting to crank children through the system like widgets on an assembly line with a minimum of effort and exposure.

In media, it is actually the opposite. They don't want you placid.... at least not in the conventional sense. They want to squeeze feeling out of you every time you turn on the television. Mostly, they want you to be either angry at something (though you may not necessarily even know why you are angry) or filled with senseless hunger for one thing or another. This is all because such things net them the most money.

If the forces of evil were behind all of this, I have a feeling things would be a wee bit more streamlined. In any case, don't worry about science: worry about the spoken and the written word. Technology may help spread these two things, but it is they that twist the will of men.

 

"Manufacturing of consent" is not a plot, it's the way things are. The main goal is to atomize, dumb down, distract people with selebrities, sports, consumption, staying afloat, etc. just not to let them to participate meaningfully (voting in meaningless election doesn't count) in public arena. When people try to affect things anyway, that's so called "crisis of democracy", it simply cannot be tolerated in the hierarchical societies.
"Social control" is very important for those who counts, there is no way it can go "unfunded", too much dough at the stake.


If you think that can't be true in the land of the free, just wait until some labor/social conflict will ripen in your area, then, relax. watch and enjoy all orwellian arsenal in action .

 

It wasn't too uncommon to run across the term planned obsolescence in the media back in the 60's but it has practically disappeared since then. How much does the automobile industry spend on TV advertising every year? Is the media going to bite a hand that feeds it?

So we have to use the internet to distribute information that stimulates thinking.

It is Global Mind War!

WarGames

http://discussions.pbs.org/viewtopic.pbs?t=28529

How do economists with PhDs forget to talk about the depreciation of automobiles for 60 years?

"All warfare is based on deception." - Sun Tzu

Science and technology have just provided more tools to play the same old games better. But the internet makes it possible for more people to play.

psikey