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Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by Varda, Jun 8, 2007.

  1. John99 Banned Banned

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    All this means is that we will never be able to walk around naked...

    No i dont think we should but thats not the point, the point is that we cant. How smart are we:shrug: you tell me.
     
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  3. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    I especially like the google ads beneath the video---I get ``Islam Ringtones''.
     
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  5. John99 Banned Banned

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    are they any good? i would get some but i'm afriad of my phone going off at the air port.
     
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  7. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Aggression is also rigorous, ongoing xenophobia, to the point that religious freedom becomes a felony offense.

    No, merely a significant minority.

    Nope. Rather, I point out the extremists can use islamic jurisprudence to argue their points. Do the moderates? If not, fine; but it must be argued on other grounds.
     
  8. Dark520 Rebuilt Registered Senior Member

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    Well, although that may be true, but I think you would be hard-pressed to find another group that goes and blows themselves up, even though they kill many times their own people than the intended targets.
     
  9. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Try the LTTE.

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  10. Dark520 Rebuilt Registered Senior Member

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    Okay, fine, let me refine what I said above: I think you would be hard pressed to find another group, motivated by religion, that conducts terror attacks worldwide, which mainly involves blowing themselves up, and that just happens to have open hostilities with the US and many other countries. And please, this time say something not so obscure.
     
  11. John99 Banned Banned

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    Then this would no longer be PsyForums/
     
  12. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    You're right, but not for the reasons you imagine.

    http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/jul2005/nf2005076_7420_db056.htm

    http://www.amconmag.com/2005_07_18/article.html
     
  13. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Sam, how can one call the difference political when islamic extremism is, by charter, married to politics? To what do suicide terrorists - and other terrorists attacks - call when they carry out their attacks? "An equal parliamentary representation and fair land claims!"? No.
     
  14. pinkiss Registered Senior Member

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    Muslims are okay if they stay in their land,but now fck them as they spread theyr shit ideas by killing everyone because of their religion.
    Once i saw on TV a report about muslim who went to other country and suicided with bomb by killing over 10 civilians.And they showed his father who was crying from happines and saying that alah helped him to bypass security and make an attack.
    After seeing this i would like that americans dropped atomic bomb for them,because if they dont care for others why we should care for them.
     
  15. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Read the book.

    "The Logic of Suicide Terrorism" by Robert Pape

    Its called assessing the enemy's weakness:

    "After decades of struggle the Palestinians are convinced that they have finally discovered Israel's Achilles' heel. Ismail Haniya, another Hamas leader, was quoted in March of last year in The Washington Post as saying that Jews "love life more than any other people, and they prefer not to die." In contrast, suicide terrorists are often said to have gone to their deaths smiling. An Israeli policeman told me, "A suicide bomber goes on a bus and finds himself face-to-face with victims and he smiles and he activates the bomb—but we learned that only by asking people afterwards who survived." This is what is known in the Shia Islamic tradition as the bassamat al-farah, or "smile of joy"—prompted by one's impending martyrdom. It is just as prevalent among Sunni terrorists. (Indeed, the last will and testament of Mohammed Atta, the ringleader of the September 11 hijackers, and his "primer" for martyrs, The Sky Smiles, My Young Son, clearly evidence a belief in the joy of death.)

    This perceived weakness of an ostensibly powerful society has given rise to what is known in the Middle East as the "spider-web theory," which originated within Hizbollah, the Lebanese Shia organization, following a struggle that ultimately compelled the Israel Defense Forces to withdraw from southern Lebanon in May of 2000. The term is said to have been coined by Hizbollah's secretary general, Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah, who described Israel as a still formidable military power whose civil society had become materialistic and lazy, its citizens self-satisfied, comfortable, and pampered to the point where they had gone soft. IDF Chief of Staff Moshe "Boogie" Ya'alon paraphrased Nasrallah for the Israeli public in an interview published in the newspaper Ha'aretz last August.

    "The Israeli army is strong, Israel has technological superiority and is said to have strategic capabilities, but its citizens are unwilling any longer to sacrifice lives in order to defend their national interests and national goals. Therefore, Israel is a spider-web society: it looks strong from the outside, but touch it and it will fall apart."

    Al Qaeda, of course, has made a similar assessment of America's vulnerability."
     
  16. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    Well that sure as fuck ain't working. 'mericans are all over the middle east right now...
     
  17. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Sure but they are in the country where al-Qaeda did not have a base before.
     
  18. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    so?

    Actually all of NATO is where their base was...
     
  19. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Was? You mean the Afghans are now supporting NATO?
    http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=49&ItemID=13034

     
  20. Varda The Bug Lady Valued Senior Member

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    lol @ justifying murder because other people do it too
     
  21. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Thats called the War on Terror.

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  22. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    Ok so where am I wrong? 9/11 Terrorism happened and they have westerners all over their "base".

    Muslims are now persecuted all over the world more than ever and believe it or not some otherwise "i don't give a shit what happens, i'm asleep making money over here" westerners are very politically "aware" and watching the "jihad".

    I think they need to go "opps" try something else to get everyone to worship Allah.
     
  23. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Okay, but this is confirming what I said previously: the movements described are religiously based. Bassamat al-farah, shaheed - these are the marks of religion.
     

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