Is Driving A Privilege?

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by darksidZz, Jun 4, 2007.

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Poll closed Jun 11, 2007.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    k the more i see you the more i know why you are single.
     
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  3. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    ok fair enough:truce:
     
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  5. darksidZz Valued Senior Member

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    You lie, if you did you could help

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  7. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    yes i have.

    but we need tests, example my son can drive on his own next year, and he mentally isnt ready, there has got to be stricer rules about who gets into a car and drives of
     
  8. ashpwner Registered Senior Member

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    yea he got a point dam it.

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  9. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    excuse me, but i have been in cars with my husband who can stop if a child runs into the road, because i have seen him do it, yesterday he was driving and these boys were playing football and he knew the kid was going to run into the road because he was looking where he was going.
     
  10. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    As I asked before...

    My sister is neurologically impaired and lacks the proper reflexes to be able to handle a car safely - should she have the "right" to drive?
     
  11. darksidZz Valued Senior Member

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    Not really, this excludes the proper neurological mechanisms to drive.
     
  12. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!:bravo: I have had to do it alot of times. If you are aware of where you are......you arent on the highway anymore....you can see things ahead of you if you watching...like kids playing so you pass them more cautiously. If you are speeding down the street with your tunes cranked or talking on your phone.....In MOST maybe not all but MOST cases its YOUR fault........afterall like someone said kids are kids you are the adult.
     
  13. przyk squishy Valued Senior Member

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    So you can drive on whichever side of the road you want, through red lights if you want, because driving is a right that should have no restrictions placed upon it?
     
  14. fishtail Registered Senior Member

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    WOW, sure it is possible, i have had a kid run into the side of my car, me doing 0 to 5 mph becaue people were getting off a bus.
    We must try not to have accidents ,but no one can predict every possibility,
    this is a science forum you should know that.
     
  15. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    No one would know if she lacked the proper faculties to drive safely had she not been tested.

    Let me see if I have this straight now...
    So, people have a "right" to drive, but if they do something that proves they should not have that "right", that "right" should be revoked.
    We should educate peope how to drive, and if they prove that they lack the ability to drive safely, we should not grant them the "right" to.

    Exactly how is that different from saying people do not have the "right", rather the "privilege" to drive?
    How is it different than what we have now, and what people have been saying here?
     
  16. darksidZz Valued Senior Member

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    Well I said even if they fail the tests we should allow it until something comes along that would cause us to revoke it.
     
  17. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    ofcourseimanexcellentdriver
     
  18. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    explain that for me please, you said we should allow it until somthing comes along that would cause us to revoke it, what do you mean by that.
     
  19. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    i think thats what make men and women seperate, women have more common sense and men are hot headed!!
     
  20. darksidZz Valued Senior Member

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    If you do something which abuses the RIGHT to perform the action of driving then it should be regulated, but not taken away completely.
     
  21. Mosheh Thezion Registered Senior Member

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    we have the right to travel....

    in 1933... they changed it... and it became a right to walk.

    and a priviledge to drive a car.


    it used to be a constituional right.... to travel... including cars.


    but they killed the constitution in 1933...

    and since you people dont seem to care.... they have robbed you of all your constitutional rights...
    and replaced them.... with priviledges and benefits.


    why?? how??

    because every person born in the usa after 1933... is made into a 14th ammendment citizen....

    read the 14th ammendment... and understand... YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS.

    NOT ANYMORE.


    Amendment XIV (1868)
    Section 1.
    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


    tHIS AMMENDMENT WAS WRITTEN FOR SLAVES... who had no rights.

    in 1933... they made everyone... everyone.. an ex-slave.
    who has no rights.... and is given priviledges and benefits, and protection by the state.


    get it?

    stop talking about rights.

    you have none.


    Emergency Powers Statutes
    (Senate Report 93-549)
    In this 1973 official report, the U.S. Senate admits that the Emergency Powers given to the President under the pretense of the National Emergency of 1933 have remained in force and that the normal function of the Federal government has been suspended.


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    93d Congress
    SENATE
    Report No. 93-549
    1st Session
    EMERGENCY POWERS STATUTES:

    PROVISIONS OF FEDERAL LAW NOW IN EFFECT DELEGATING TO THE EXECUTIVE EXTRAORDINARY AUTHORITY IN TIME OF NATIONAL EMERGENCY REPORT OF THE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON THE TERMINATION OF THE NATIONAL EMERGENCY UNITED STATES SENATE NOVEMBER 19, 1973


    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE
    WASHINGTON : 1973
    24-509 O
    SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON THE TERMINATION OF THE NATIONAL EMERGENCY

    FRANK CHURCH, Idaho Co-Chairman
    PHILIP A. HART, Michigan
    CLAIBORNE PELL, Rhode Island
    ADLAI E. STEVENSON III, Illinois CHARLES McC MATHIAS, Jr., Maryland
    CLIFFORD P. CASE, New Jersey
    JAMES B. PEARSON, Kansas
    CLIFFORD P. HANSEN, Wyoming
    WILLIAM G. MILLER, Staff Director
    THOMAS A. DINE, Professional Staff


    FOREWORD




    Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been in a state of declared national emergency. In fact, there are now in effect four presidentially-proclaimed states of national emergency: In addition to the national emergency declared by President Roosevelt in 1933, there are also the national emergency proclaimed by President Truman on December 16, 1950, during the Korean conflict, and the states of national emergency declared by President Nixon on March 23, 1970, and August 15, 1971.

    These proclamations give force to 470 provisions of Federal law. These hundreds of statutes delegate to the President extraordinary powers, ordinarily exercised by the Congress, which affect the lives of American citizens in a host of all-encompassing manners. This vast range of powers, taken together, confer enough authority to rule the country without reference to normal Constitutional processes.

    Under the powers delegated by these statutes, the President may: seize property; organize and control the means of production; seize commodities; assign military forces abroad; institute martial law; seize and control all transportation and communication; regulate the operation of private enterprise; restrict travel; and, in a plethora of particular ways, control the lives of all American citizens.

    .......THERE IS ALOT MORE.





    -MT
     
  22. fishtail Registered Senior Member

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    You are so wrong, would you leave some one in charge of any dangerous machinery if they did not know how to use it? I have seen a young girl get
    scalped eye brows and all, by a cotton combing roller, because she was not trained to operate it properly, she could have been killed, but any way she committed suicide some time later.
    Every one should try to eliminate risk to others how, by proper training of course.
     
  23. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    Is that why my heart sinks everytime I am in the car with you

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