You can be just as pathetic, Baron Max. You always reach by accusing ALL MUSLIMS of stuff when it's really a small portion of them. You're just as guilty for anything you accuse people of.
So the Iraqi terrorist set off bombs randomly just hoping that they might catch a few soldiers walking by?? ...LOL!! And if the bomb happens to kill a bunch of their own countrymen, ...oh, well, it's good propaganda? ...LOL! Oops, yeah, that's right, ...terryoh bought into it easily, didn't he? Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Baron Max
1983 is the earliest you have? Heck, I'll even toss in some stuff from the late 70's to make them look worse. Guess what? All of those things done to us were reactions to what we did to them. 1983.. late 70's.. psssh.. try U.S. and CIA involvement over there in the 50's and 60's. We reap what we sow. We fucked with them so they came back to fuck us back. Try and give us one example that predates us sticking our greedy hand in the cookie jar. - N
Sayid Qutb and Wahhabism. That's pretty much all that's needed. He came to all his conclusions about Western civ based on the erotic writhings and couplings at a church sock hop in the Midwest.
Neildo And they are reaping what they sowed to, the middle east leaders that didn't recognize the fact of reality, that the oil was found and developed by the western world, that we found and brought the oil to market, built the shipping terminals, and oil infrastructure, and that we had legal property rights to what we had paid for, so when you steal from a company and threaten the world oil, and market yes your going to get a reaction, and the problems go back farther than the U.S. involvement, try Britain, France, Turkey, Russia, Germany, hell all of Europe has at one time or another had their hands in the middle east, its called projection of force for the need of the country, Britain and France divided up the middle east long before we ever were involved, and after WWII we had to protect the oil at market for the stability of the western nations, so so sorry about the poor middle east, the real start for their problems were their own leaders who kept control of the oil for them self the peasant be dammed, that is one of the smart thing that the ruling families of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, U.A.E. and Oman have done is the fact that they share the oil revenues with the people of their countries, and it is a good chance that it will keep them in power for a long time to come, that and the fact that they deal with the west on energy.
well there are three major groups in iraq no 2 of which work together there are the us troops, the iraqi miltia or whatever groups, and then there are terrorists and others entering iraq to keep things stired up. about the clostest there is to working together is the us and iraqi groups and is still a long way off if ever
Exactly, and I'll say the exact same thing to people of those countries if ever they start to whine and complain about Mid-East menaces as well. I mean, hey, go ahead and hate terrorists and people from the Middle East due to obvious reasons of them being our enemies, but don't go around trying to spin history saying they started it all. Be a man and grow some balls and admit to the mistakes we made. We're now reaping what we sowed. Don't be a political chump making excuses, go and acknowledge that fact and carry on and whoop some raghead ass. The truth'll set you free, but first it'll make you angry. John Lennon - Gimme Some Truth Im sick and tired of hearing things From uptight, short-sighted, narrow-minded hypocritics All I want is the truth Just gimme some truth Ive had enough of reading things By neurotic, psychotic, pig-headed politicians All I want is the truth Just gimme some truth No short-haired, yellow-bellied, son of tricky dicky Is gonna mother hubbard soft soap me With just a pocketful of hope Money for dope Money for rope No short-haired, yellow-bellied, son of tricky dicky Is gonna mother hubbard soft soap me With just a pocketful of soap Money for dope Money for rope Im sick to death of seeing things From tight-lipped, condescending, mamas little chauvinists All I want is the truth Just gimme some truth now Ive had enough of watching scenes Of schizophrenic, ego-centric, paranoiac, prima-donnas All I want is the truth now Just gimme some truth No short-haired, yellow-bellied, son of tricky dicky Is gonna mother hubbard soft soap me With just a pocketful of soap Its money for dope Money for rope Ah, Im sick and tired of hearing things From uptight, short-sighted, narrow-minded hypocrites All I want is the truth now Just gimme some truth now Ive had enough of reading things By neurotic, psychotic, pig-headed politicians All I want is the truth now Just gimme some truth now All I want is the truth now Just gimme some truth now All I want is the truth Just gimme some truth All I want is the truth Just gimme some truth" - N
Neildo, there were mistakes made, but Qutb made up his mind about the West from his viewing of it, and of the most tame aspects imaginable.
Congrats, you've at least grown half a nut from admitting to that, time to earn the other one. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! - N
I've no problem with any opinions you wish to state. The only problem I have is when people try to spin or ignore history. Oh, and it should be pretty obvious from how blunt I tend to be, that I have a pair of balls. Now class and refinement, I have no problem admitting that I lack that, considering I have a pair of big balls. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! - N
What problem do I have with him? As I mentioned before, everything wrong with the Middle East is due to the Western world meddling with it. He didn't like the way U.S. culture was because we're a complete opposite of them, it's a culture shock, no different than what happened in the U.S. between the North and South. What the North did to the South, is exactly what the West is doing all over the world, spreading our culture, wanting everyone to be like us. Why wouldn't he have a problem with that? Heck, that's part of the reason behind the Egyptian coup, because their leaders were puppets to British imperalists. None of this would have happened if the Western world wouldn't have gone over to the Middle East and start the culture clash with their colonialism. Sure, bin Laden and them took his teachings and radicalized it, but that would be like blaming Karl Marx for the actions of Stalin, or blaming the Bible for the actions taking during the Inquisition. Hell, I'm sure somewhere there's militant people that devote themselves to Star Wars and wish one day to have Jedi dominance over this planet. Watch out, we also have a few Ayn Rander's floating around on these forums too. Bin Laden didn't strike out at the U.S. until we decided to keep our troops in Saudi Arabia -- their holy land -- after the first Gulf War. Before that, we supported him to fight against the Russians. And as usual, the Western world oversteps their boundries and then our little pet winds up biting us back. Just like what made Sayyid disgruntled with British colonialism having their troops over there, the U.S. now had our troops over there too. The simplest solution to the Middle East crisis is to simply leave them be, otherwise we're just going to have to continue to deal with all this blowback. Every culture hates when someone else tries to come over and change their ways. What exactly do you expect to happen? - N
You mean fellow country men who are collaborators who join the US established Ministry of the Interior police (death squads) . No not at all , by all means they are traitors . It is Americans who are killing the civilians thats why the Iraqis want America out . You would be the first to join the occupier and rat out your fellow Americans , its evident you hate your fellow citizens , you show disdain for the homeless , the unemployed , leftwingers , minorities etc , you know the same people in Iraq who are resisting America .
Do you actually believe all that claptrap Foley? I'm guessing not, nobody on Earth can be that dense. I think you just loving being yelled at.
Reality !! Ok the joke has gone far enough , this from a person who constructs threads like this "Poll: Ewok Wookie crossbreeding?" .