Space elevators?!?

Discussion in 'Astronomy, Exobiology, & Cosmology' started by orcot, Mar 23, 2007.

  1. Singularity Banned Banned

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    I hope u r aware that NASA is not the only space agency in the world.
     
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    lol

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    dragon do not underestimate the chinese space program nor the under funding from NASA. I forsee that Nasa is going to either have to stop it's moon and mars mission in the next couple of 5 years or is going to have to do some serious investments if it would like to keep it's weather satelites and the other verry unsexy parts of the space backbone. While the Chinese are proberly going to buy half of the russians space port for the technology.

    Hopefully the verry ... Iraqi situation. Are going to use space to put their heads in the sand for a while. Spending that half a trillion dollar on space, welfare, defecit, etc would proberly turn up some nicer newspaper articles.

    But somehow I think that if there 's ever going to be a investment in a space elevator then it's going to be a mutual project because everybody would wan't to have some control over it (assuming it can be build).
     
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    Yeah and McDonalds isn't the only fastfood joint in the world either. Besides, wouldn't a piece of tape just wrap around the earth instead of staying static? The moon's gravity might have some affect as well. I think that it would make more sense to have it tethered in the opposite direction, so that the anchor in orbit becomes a place to dangle the bobber over the earth instead of attached to it.
     
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    It would be better to put the elevator in a world neutral zone and be kept open for anyone who pays for it.

    This will thwart any attempt to attack it.

    Mostly USA will try to control it, if they do then i hope it falls on white house in case of an attack.
     
  9. orcot Valued Senior Member

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    It's going to be owned by whoever pays for it not who invented the technology, china India and the middle east are yust as likly to own it as the US... Yeah right... but the US is going to have to pull strings for it and aftherwards others can always make a second cheaper version
     
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    Whats not possible,

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    :bugeye:
     
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    i mean its possible to built such AirShips but they wont.

    And place a SpaceCraft in its belly like this,

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    very....interesting....leave it to aribus to coem out with new radical tech.
     
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    Why leave it to them ? Lets help them.

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    I always wonder why they dont do something like this.

    Adding more, they can add more wings in different plains, ie, three on top, three in the center and three as shown in this pic; and after that they and stretch it so that it will be like three these planes sticked side by sides. So total of 18 wings. Hence 9 times the size of the original pic, but same height.
     
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    The air turbulence from the front wing would spoil the last two wings.
     
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    I know;
    we should adjust their position such that the low pressure created from the first wing is on top of the next and so on.
     
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    Singu can't you make a other thread about this, this is abouth space elevators and I hate to see it spoiled on other topics, there are some nice designs like the solar plane that can (cheaply) replace satelites et etc. So why not make it a new threat entirely

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_elevator
    According to the site the tether should have a tensile strengt/density ratio of 65-120GPa and space and the neccesairy technology chould be developed as soon as 2008. As of now the strongest nanotubes only reach 52theoretical with a min breaking strengt at 30GPa(diamond is little more then 20GPa.
     
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    Won't happen. The elevator couldn't travel fast enough up to escape our atmosphere, etc. to get into space.
     
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    it doesnt have to. otherwise all elevators would have to travel that fast

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    what's fast?
    The cable will be 35800 km. A craft that travels at 200 km/h would take 179 hours or around 7,5days. I agree that no human can witstand elevator music for so long but if protectics are installed against space radiation and their are simple resources like beds kitchens recreation etc it's duable.
     
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    Mr. Orcot,

    after being already proved in my previous posts why SpaceElevator is not a good idea , I have posted that pic here.
     

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