It's Official - Hell Is Real

Discussion in 'Religion Archives' started by (Q), Mar 29, 2007.

  1. nexusfruit 17 Registered Senior Member

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    How about this? If you think that there is an after-life. Notice the words here-> (After=post Or the remaining result of....)..(Life= the act of being;or a self-sustaining motion where motion should have been inert.) After-Life.
    I just farted. You smelled it. You called me on it. but now it's gone. It ain't coming back. It's diffuse. (HOMOGENIZED). I might fart again but...well... the next one is going to be the broccoli I ate and not the cream puff that originated the initial fart. OR I lost my arm in an accident. It was a living arm. It was part of me. But now, it's gone. It ain't coming back. maybe a couple of really bad examples but... you get the point. I mean YES technically we're not supposed to be here anyway. But the opposite of (something out of nothing is) (nothing out of something) it is reciprocal. I saw god...when I was born. I cried. He spanked me. I just wanted back into the cave. Now the idea is too disgusting to think about. sorry. But I would put my money on Freud over the Pope. Nietzsche was a dick. But then every dick is usually right. That's why we can't stand them. Nobody likes a know-it-all.
     
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  3. NDS NDS Registered Senior Member

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    Sounds like something out of that movie "The Fly."
     
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  5. draqon Banned Banned

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    never seen that movie. But I did/still play the game called life.
     
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  7. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    given that its practically impossible to stop oneself going to the toilet, its not clear why you are convinced one can stop oneself going to hell (assuming of course they are a rotten sod)

    perhaps you explain it a bit here

     
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  8. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    Lets not forget who invented hell...it was the Persian mystic Zoroaster.

    Until that time both the Greeks and Jews had no concept of an afterworld where sinners are punished. There is no hell in the old testament, only a place called Sheol, where the spirits just sort of hang out.

    No hellfire speeches in synagogues.

    It was only after the Babylonian captivity that some of the Jews started adopting Persian ideals.
     
  9. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    So, where is your soul when you're born? How does it define you, then?
     
  10. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    Excellent point, a lot of religions borrow HEAVY from Zoroaster.
     
  11. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Poor old Zo'. He didna kno'.
     
  12. nexusfruit 17 Registered Senior Member

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    So you got the proof ...BRING IT!
     
  13. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    that was dragon's quote actually

    but still its generally sound - to the determine how the soul defines a living entity at birth you just have to compare the specimen with another that is born dead (if the differences aren't immediately detectable one can compare them again after 3 months)
     
  14. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    So, the only difference is death? Being alive defines you?
     
  15. Quigly ......................... ..... Registered Senior Member

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    what is weird is that recent Catholic catechism is teaching that that Hell is a "state of eternal separation from God," to be understood "symbolically rather than physically."

    His speech reinforced the idea that it is a physical real place. This seems to contradict catholic catechism.
     
  16. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    Indeed, but the catholic catechism contradicts the scriptures.

    This was possible for centuries because most catholics couldnt even read the bible, so they didnt know they were being had.

    I dont think its any accident that Protestantism was born shortly after the invention of the printing press.
     
  17. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    certainly
    at the very least if you were to drop dead your daily posting average would plummet

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  18. Godless Objectivist Mind Registered Senior Member

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    That works both ways LG, or in your case will your "soul" be posting here from the grave?

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  19. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    which is why the soul is commonly defined as possessing characteristics quite distinct from the body

    BG 2.17: That which pervades the entire body you should know to be indestructible. No one is able to destroy that imperishable soul.

    BG 2.18: The material body of the indestructible, immeasurable and eternal living entity is sure to come to an end; therefore, fight, O descendant of Bharata.

    BG 2.22: As a person puts on new garments, giving up old ones, the soul similarly accepts new material bodies, giving up the old and useless ones.

    BG 2.23: The soul can never be cut to pieces by any weapon, nor burned by fire, nor moistened by water, nor withered by the wind.

    etc etc
     
  20. Godless Objectivist Mind Registered Senior Member

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    Kindly provide evidence. Otherwise you are just making blank statements with no empirical evidence to back up such assertions. Just because it's written in some ancient manuscript what it states does not make it true! K!

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  21. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    well if you want to come to the point of direct perception in regards to religious claims the first requirement is that you are not sinful and adopt normative descriptions given in scripture

    BG 7.28: Persons who have acted piously in previous lives and in this life and whose sinful actions are completely eradicated are freed from the dualities of delusion, and they engage themselves in My service with determination.
     
  22. Godless Objectivist Mind Registered Senior Member

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    Which scriptures? There are literally thousands of religions, and thousands of manuscripts, which scriptures do truly bring you to "direct perception"

    And are you in "direct perception?" can you provide evidence that YOU!! have direct perception?
     
  23. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    and they all tend to converge on the general issues behind sin

    if I said "No" how would you know if I was lying?
    if I said "yes" how would you know if I was lying?
     

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