Conservative View of War on Middle East

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Genji, Jan 30, 2007.

  1. The Devil Inside Banned Banned

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    dear god, i wish they allowed us to have signatures! i would totally plagiarize this!
     
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  3. IceAgeCivilizations Banned Banned

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    Genji needs some sensitivity training.

    And Genji, "chickenhawks" are paying for the war, so are you, presuming you pay taxes, and "chickenhawks" are over there fighting, Genji, so you might as well enlist, since you're already paying for the war, presuming you pay taxes.
     
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  5. Genji Registered Senior Member

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    I'd love to enlist. And shoot my superiors. Until I'm ready for death I'll keep that an option.
     
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  7. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Well, no, chickenhawks don't fight, they just send people to fight. The war in Iraq is not being paid for with taxes, but rather borrowed. Mostly from the Chinese.
     
  8. Roman Banned Banned

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    They don't. If you don't have the means to survive, you don't deserve to. Since when was it our responsibility to play world welfare state?
     
  9. Genji Registered Senior Member

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    Chickenhawk is someone that cheers for war, like Christians and Muslims, but have never fought and never will.
     
  10. Genji Registered Senior Member

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    Now I like Roman again.:bugeye: Off & On with that one.
     
  11. Roman Banned Banned

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    Funny you agree with those sentiments.
    Do you feel the US's involvement in the creation of Panama was justified?
     
  12. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    For a moment I thought you are talking about the Kurds or the Chechens....

    My bad...
     
  13. Genji Registered Senior Member

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    No. Panama was Colombian territory. (What does that have to do with anything?)

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  14. Roman Banned Banned

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    Colombia didn't have the power to stop the US. By your reasoning, if it can't protect itself, it shouldn't exist.

    Right?
     
  15. crazy151drinker Registered Senior Member

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    Uhhhhh we didnt fight in Lebanon, just FYI.

    So back to Korea, Vietnam, and Somalia.

    Well can you really count Somalia as a defeat? I mean the Etheopians just went in there and creamed everyone! If you call losing 15 troops a defeat...
    Maybe you were reffering to the withdrawal of US forces from the Area? Why dont you just say, "Bill Clinton removed our forces". Thats all that happened. Not to mention that he set them up for failure in the first place. This is the same Bill Clinton who didnt want Bin Ladin (Amazing how Liberals love Bill Clinton, yet his failures led up to 9/11 which started the Iraq war! If he had just dont his job and not been such a pussy we wouldnt be in Iraq right now).

    So all you have left is Vietnam. Which wasnt a Military defeat. It was a public opinion defeat (which is probably why ol' Billy left Somolia. Too scared to commit troops).

    I realize that you like to point out American 'loses' but in reality its the American liberal public which forces the Militarys hand which causes these defeats. So if anything- its people like you who are responsible for these defeats and our continual loses in Iraq. If our enemies saw a united US then they wouldnt continue the fight. However, they see the same protests as Vietnam. So they know that all they have to do is keep killing civilians and an American every day or so and we'll leave (no matter what their losses are). So in short- YOUR the REASON that Americans keep dying. YOUR the REASON that we were 'defeated' in Vietnam.

    Amazing how Pacifists end up killing more people.

    Stupid Americans.
     
  16. Genji Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah, we just sent how many thousands of troops to Lebanon to fight Hezbollah? We Ran fast after the heroic bombing.

    We got our asses kicked in Somalia, Vietnam. We ran like rats in Defeat.

    I'm no pacifist little turd. I support the destruction of Israel and the end of the American Empire. Bring it On.

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    The rest of your rant is the usual bullshit whining that comes from a very defeated ideology. Get some new bumperstickers.

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  17. Genji Registered Senior Member

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    You think every conflict in every corner of the globe is the same and all should get a single blanket solution or condemnation? You must not read much. This is too ignorant to respond to.
     
  18. crazy151drinker Registered Senior Member

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    I think we had this 'asses kicked' arguement before. If you mean we left then yes. If you think we were defeated then no. 15 GIs lost vs 1,000+ Somalis. 55,000 Americans vs 1,000,000+ Vietnamese. Hardly an ass kicking. Doesnt really matter though, as long as the US 'loses' in some way youre happy. Shouldnt you be hijacking a plane?

    We 'ran like rats'?? Who's choice was that? Bill Clinton! Your Liberal Savior LOL. I like how you can pick and choose the wonderous deeds of your liberal rats at will.
     
  19. Athelwulf Rest in peace Kurt... Registered Senior Member

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    It's amazing how the neoconservative mindset, specifically the kind rampant today, can be refuted with classical conservative rhetoric. It's been brewing in my head for a while. Maybe one day I'll make a proper thread about it.

    This makes me wonder what I would think of conservatism in general if neoconservatism hadn't trashed its image so much. Maybe conservatism in its classical form would actually have seemed a bit more rational to me.

    Crazy151drinker, what country are you from?
     
  20. Genji Registered Senior Member

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    I'm not a democrat asswipe. Not a liberal either. I hated and protested Clinton. He wasn't a liberal. He was/is a conservative centrist. I've gone over this a dozen times here so go back and read some posts it's discussed at length. Defeat: RUN out, with low casualties, is Defeat. The US murdered more SE Asians than fucking Pol Pot and we STILL were DEFEATED and RAN. BTW conservatives were opposed to the war. I'm a communist, not a liberal dumbfuck. You don't even know what liberal, socialist, communist, conservative mean. You're just a troll. A boring one at that. God Bless the Rebels of Iraq!
     

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