Dalits Going Christian

Discussion in 'Politics' started by IceAgeCivilizations, Feb 1, 2007.

  1. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Got it, thanks. Does it include freedom of religion or is that a non sequitur?

    Perhaps you could clarify how it supports the survival of society.
     
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  3. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Freedom to fantasize is allowed, but it isn't extended to those who impose their fantasies on reality.

    Thinking supports society, lest society means cave dwelling. How do religious fantasies support societies, sam?
     
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  5. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Oh, I get it now, sam... secularism is the ultimate conspiracy theory in which arms are sold to theists in the hope that they blow each other up. Brilliant!
     
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  7. zenbabelfish autonomous hyperreal sophist Registered Senior Member

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    The problem is that religious ideology has attempted to appropriate the cooperative aspects of human nature as attributes of the dogma and relationship to an imaginary entity/entities.
    This is exactly what the initial post of the thread was designed to do...
     
  8. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Its a fact that religion supports society (Q). Look at all the theists taking up for each other ONLY because they belong to the same religion!

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    And its not thinking that supports society, its communal effort. Which is what religion teaches. Atheists are separatists by nature.
     
  9. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    You persist in misunderstanding my words.

    I'm fed up, have fun.
     
  10. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    A bold yet empty statement.

    Taking up what?

    More empty statements. Silly in the extreme, sam.
     
  11. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    You persist in misunderstanding reality, that much is clear.
     
  12. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, I'm totally delusional, I see everything through theist colored glasses.

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  13. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    Hindus converting to Christianity is a disaster. Hinduism is the only remaining Indo-European belief unbroken since ancient times. To lose it would be to lose a precious treasure.
     
  14. IceAgeCivilizations Banned Banned

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    Look at the story of Manu and the Seven Rishis, obviously paralleling Noah and the seven aboard the Ark, so the Hindu version is a variation of the accurate rendering.
     
  15. Ayodhya Registered Senior Member

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    And yet the Hindu version was written several thousand years before the Biblical one...
    Your logic is flawless IAC.
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    Dalits converting to Christianity is most probably a political move. As in Indonesia, the religions are influenced by Hinduism and do not retain the rigidness or what would be considered orthodoxy in the West. In essence, it wouldn't be "true" Christianity, but a little bit of that and a little bit of this.
     
  16. zenbabelfish autonomous hyperreal sophist Registered Senior Member

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    As conversion is being used to effect a political solution to a religious problem - people are not converting because their belief in a god had changed but rather because conversion offers them a better political position in Indian society.

    By converting (I think) they hope to escape religious labelling. It would be fair to question a political basis for conversion were there no environmental or cultural factors: poverty, alienation, etc.

    What is your opinion about a political motive for conversion?
     

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