watch out with that crap like thing. you might get kicked hard:bugeye: and Taekwon-Do is not all about jumping, idiot.
I agree that grappling is the best type of system of martial arts. I think you're right to be pissed Avatar. ~The_Chosen~ That is blatant disrespect for other martial arts, and bull shit. So I say peace out all strikers including tae kwon do. Sorry for a dick to be representing grappling. PEace out from JArrod.
This is to ~THE-CHOSEN~ i have been in ful contact fights, fights on the streets, and i can beat any wrestler at any time, i would not even work up a sweat,as for jump kicking i dont need to jump kick i can get you in the head from a standing posistion, with out a problem, so you can keep your wrestling and stick it were the sun dont shine.
tomorrow I have a taekwon-do exam. It's very serious and I can particepate only once a year. I'm so nervous. Normally I'm very proud tht I can control my emotions, but this time it seems I can't switch it off. It hasn't been like this in no other exam, even in the math test which I had previously this year. tht particular exam was a key factor to my further education. and now- I can not find the cause . Maybe it sits smwhere in my subconsciousness. Anywayz, do al you gurus know of a method tht I can remove this very nervous feeling inside me. Don't advice me any chemicals, please. Oh and nothing tht takes long. I've got a lot to study and repeat.
meditation??? I just tried. It appears tht I'm very deeply disturbed by this exam. At the instant I cosed my eyes and relaxed I was falling with great speed down down down. I was falling through dark clouds. very disturbing.
Blastoff: Unless you are one of the top ten in the world at whatever you do, the following is a display of ignorance, arrogance, or self delusion (perhaps all three). A person with world class reflexes and coordination can win using an inferior method over an opponent with lesser physical capabilities. I am sure there are grapplers in this world that could beat you. Many of those you could beat would give you some trouble, so your above remark is nonsense. Grappling might not be the best method, but is highly effective, especially if the grappler has some knowledge of what to expect from his opponent. Grapplers have often done well against other forms of martial arts. Combined with other methods, it has got to be formidable. 50 or so years ago, I would expect to be able to handle most boxers because I was a damn good grappler with some knowledge of other martial arts. However, in that era, I would not expect to be able to handle Sugar Ray Robinson, who was considered (at that time) one of the best boxers who ever lived: Pound for pound that is. He was a middle weight & nobody would expect him to beat a fast heavy weight, although he might win on points. If I managed to beat him the first time we met, I would know it was the element of surprise and would not expect to beat him in a rematch. While I considered my methods superior to boxing, I had no delusions about what would happen against somebody with world class reflexes and coordination, when I was just a damn good college grappler. You sound like somebody who has beat up on some fish in a small pond and will someday learn a painful lesson. As for kicking somebody in the face or head, it still does not look like a good method to me. After reading some of the replies to this thread and asking some questions at a martial arts studio, I have become convinced that trying to kick a competent opponent in the face or head is likely to be very embarrassing and painful for the kicker.
i think wrestling is a very bad way of wining a fight. and only works if the other person has no idea what he is doing. i think most experinced people would not kick someone in the head as there first attact. i think someone just running and trying to hold u, is very stupid. u want to keep the other person as far as possible while still attking.
Well first off, what I call grappling is grappling/submission techniques such as Sambo, Shootfighting, Brazilian Ju-Jitsu, etc. Pure grappling such as wrestling really may not be the best thing cut out for real-life confrontations. However, Grappling (Submission arts) is in my opinion far superior to striking, no it isn't stupid attempting to throw or takedown your opponant when they are strikers and not skilled in the clinch position. I recommend watching UFC 1-6 for further incite into grappling though only a very limited look. However, I feel a lot of love/respect for anyone in the martial arts/ every martial art. Blatant bad remarks from either side of this argument shouldn't be tolerated. SO as I said before, peace out. Strikers or Grapplers its all good.
When I was 24 years old, I went to a Karate dojo to learn Karate Do. The sensei was Miyazato, second in the rank of senseis of the Okinawa schooll (the master was Miyahira, which I came to know many years after). The first question Miyazato asked me was: <b>"Why do you want to learn Karate?"</b>. I said: <b>"To defend myself better"</B>. Then Miyazato gave me the best advice I ever got in the defense business: <b><font color=red>"Get a .45. It is much better."</font></B> As I already was an expert at defense shooting, I tended to agree with him. I later took "Hand-to-Hand" combat in the Army (as a Commando in the Argentine Army) and found that the best defense is still an automatic Colt .45 (now it is a Steyr .40), and it has served me well. Most of the times for scaring guys away. But military Hand-to-Hand combat is quite useful when you have not a gun, as I experienced. In 1972 I was attacked by two "junkies" in the Greenwich Village in New York, and one of them pressed the tip of a switchblade on my throat, asking for the money. I saw both of them were "high" on drugs; I wheigthed my chances and raised my hands while saying "Wait, don't get nervous, I'll give you the money", and then I hit his right wrist (with my right hand) while hitting his elbow with my left hand. The elbow broke and the knife went to the street. A split seconf after, I threw a side kick to the other guy's knee, that also broke off. Both of them remained in the floor yelling and screaming in pain. I did a 100 yard dash in less than 10 seconds and disappeared from the scene. I didn't wait for the cops to show up: they were junkies, but they were Americans, and I was a miserably foreign tourist that would have a lot of explaining to do. I don't like fights, I rather look as a coward before getting into any argument, but if somebody actually attacks me, he will be rewarded with an unpleasant surprise. I never go out without my 15 round, .40 cal Steyr, although in a bar fight, the best weapon (besides a Champagne bottle) is a 1 liter beer bottle in the side of the head.
This is part of what I mean when I mentiona big difference between civilian martial arts and military. The civilians here discuss which trend or style is better versus which other trend or style. In the military you learn to take someone apart first, before they can do it to you. Not grab them and win by getting them to say "Uncle", not block because you watched Bruce Lee movies, but actually taking them apart.
Large blunt or sharp metal objects will, I think, do well to discourage someone from messing with you, The only thing that works better is, as Edufer said, a high-velocity deflagerant-powered projectile launcher available.
Once again I must point out that submission techniques are far better than army training. Submission is effective in real-life confrontations and as a matter of fact is one of the only martial art in which people are taught to defend themselves in real-life situations (not just sparring) all the time. The only downside is typically no instruction in disarming weapons, that is a problem.
We must remember that all so-called "martial arts" were born and developed by pheasants in China, Japan and Korea, during the periods of the great Emperors and feudal masters, who forbade them to keep any weapons at home for defending themselves from their oppressors and their tax collectors. That way, many agrarian tools were transformed and converted into weapons as the nunchaku, for instance. They also developed the "bare hand" combat (or Karate Do) for using against well armed troops that were trained in fighting in the traditional way: spears, swords, bows and arrows, etc, but did not know how to react against a new and unconventional and effective way of fighting. So, martial arts were developed as a need for <b>a fast and effective way of putting down an enemy.</b> They could not take the chance of not immobilizing or rendering useles and enemy, because when you face an enemy with a letal weapon, <b>you must kill or disable him</b>, or you are killed. So martial arts were directed to efectiveness in their beginning. Later they became more "spiritual", and finally they became a philosophy, a way of living, a way to behave. That's good, <b>as long it is performed in dojos and tournaments</b>, where your life is not at stake. In real life, <b>you kill, or you are killed</b>. It all depends in which side of the "food chain" you want to be. As a gourmet, or as food.
Well some martial arts devoloped in ancient Greece, such as pancration the first submission art. Also Akido was devoloped in about the 50's I believe in Japan along with a philosophy in which one would immobilize then leave the oppenent not kill. Also various hybrid martial arts have been derived by the originals. Anyway I agree with you that is why once again I stand by submission arts and vale tudo tournaments. THe same skills used in the dojo are used on the street either to immobilize, injure, or kill the opponet. I feel most modern martial arts with the exception of submission arts, ninjutsu, jeet-kune-do and various others have become deluded over time and are barely street effetive. Once again not saying anything against other martial arts, its a major hobby of mine and I think any participation in the arts is cool. The only martial art I feel completely useless is Karate, must of it is so watered down and Kata base any skilled street fighter could finish them. Incidentely to find out more about submission arts go to: www.mma.tv or rent/buy UFCs, 1-6. Or if you can find it Gracie Ju-Jitsu in Action 1 or 2 (I prefer 2)
I agree with you. Submission art seems to be the adequate thing to use today in the street, because we live in system full of the so-called "human rights". (My opinion is all rights needed by humans and animals are in the Constitution and other law codes, and if enforced as they should, there wouldn't exist Human Rights Watch and other political organizations using the issue for intruding in small countrie's internal affairs). If you take out a gun in public you'll run into a lot of trouble, not to mention the trouble you'll have if you actually use it and injure or kill somebody. Using your bare hands is less likely to lead you into trouble with the law, depending on the injuries you cause, or if the Judge finds out you are a martial art expert or a boxer: this make your hands lethal weapons. Best advice: if you see trouble coming, just fly. Stay away from fights. As the Italians used to say during Second World in Africa, when German officers accused Italians of running away under British attacks: "Soldato che fuge, serve para un' altra volta" --<b>Soldier than runs, is useful for another instance...</b> It is also claimed that Marechale Badoglio said to a German General that complained Italian soldiers were flying away: "They fly, but they fly like lions". Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
This idea that all martial arts came from China is pru bullshit. I didn't know any sentient people went in for that Beijing Cinema crap still. What is a martial art? A combat/fighting technique. That's what the term "martial art" means. Are you trying to say that Europeans NEVER fought each other at all prior to trade beginning with China? Europe had armies of thoroughly organised and trained professional soldiers more than 2,500 years ago. You really think they just flailed wildly at each other like kids? Think about it! Please, before you say "all martial arts came from China", go and read ANY history book! And now a nifty link: http://www.geocities.com/the_creepy_thin_man/links.html
I fully agree that military style fighting is the most effective. And I know a few people tht I would like to meet soon after school. They are from latvian comandos and I have old relations with them. The army way is the most effective, because they do not do what is traditional or looks cool, they do that what is effective (many military services all over the world use sambo as their base technique). Some other people in my place would say tht Taekwon-Do was developed by General Chong Hong Hi (he dyed in the 15th of JunePlease Register or Log in to view the hidden image! ) during the 50s for the South Korean army. And it became an official training program for all their military. The problem here is this tht all the good moves are taught to you only when you get the black belt (all the grabs, brakes and such). And it is minimum 7years befor you can get a black belt. Therefore I plan to learn military techniques from those comandos, because no way I'm going to our army. People get killed there ( the old timers beat upnew comers, last year one was even killed) and the newbies are not taught the full program, only the special forces are. Oh and I agree tht a good gun is the best defence. I would go for Desert Eagle or Luger (when they hit, they hit hardPlease Register or Log in to view the hidden image! )
Once again I disagree that american military fighting style is the best, but Sambo (A art which I have studied throughly, my favorite personally) is extremely effective, but once again it is a submission art. Truthfully the more effective a martial art usualy the less pretty it is, thats another thing about submission arts they are extremely effective as I have said but when you show someone an example of it after you say you study martial arts they're like: "Cool, but what about all the kicking and shit can you l;ike do a spin kick or something.....etc" That kinda shit can get on your nerves. No It does not look cool, but it is the most effective and anyone that I've met that has said it looked gay or whatever and then fought me has immediately taken it back, gotten some respect. So yeah Submission is highly effective, second is probably military fighting I'd have to say (un;ess including Sambo), then third - I'm suprised no on mentioned Jeet-Kune-Do probably one of the more effective pure self defense arts.
A Gi, Judo/Sambo/Brazilian Ju-Jitsu also use Gis however these are much heavier to improve gripping them, improve grappling with them.
