Does organic really mean consuming less pesticides?

Discussion in 'Earth Science' started by imaplanck., Nov 21, 2006.

  1. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    No. It's up to you to educate yourself about organic methods, which have already been established are safer for the environment and individual health.
     
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  3. imaplanck. Banned Banned

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    So you dont have any data? Its not about education, I know the claims. Im just not a gullable idiot as some.
     
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    Dangers of pesticides

    Pesticides can present danger to consumers, bystanders, or workers during manufacture, transport, or during and after use. There is concern that pesticides used to control pests on food crops are dangerous to the consumer. These concerns are one reason for the organic food movement. [wiki]

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    Yes cant you read you own submission? Concern!
    Wheres the data behind the inflated scare stories?

    Marketing is much like the male praying mantis , no head makes for success - Imaplanck.
     
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    No! wheres the data to show that trace levels of pesticides are dangerous to the consumer of food?
     
  10. c'est moi all is energy and entropy Registered Senior Member

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    What a sick "discussion".

    spidergoat, are you a saint?

    imaplanck, obviously, toxins of all sorts must be very healthy, or isn't that your (unwritten) idiotic statement? So why don't you go eat your pesticides and come back when you really care for a meaningful dialogue instead of posting your life away out of boredom
     
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    I'm trying to find data for you, but I suppose logical discourse is beyond your ability.
     
  13. valich Registered Senior Member

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    The word "organic" in chemistry means "containing both carbon and hydrogen" and this is completely different from the use of the word in reference to organic farming and organic foods. Organic farming refers to not using any synthetic fertilizers, pesticides, plant growth regulators, or genetic engineering. Similarly, organic foods exclude the use of all the above and also any preservatives, ionizing radiation, or ripening or food additives.

    Accumulative trace pesticide additives have in some case - certainly not all - led to these being banned by our FDA. Although not the best of our governmental control agencies, they do try hard. Many food preservatives have been banned because they proved to be carcinogens, and this would be easy to google. Many others have saved lives by preventing deaths from pathogenic bacterium growing on spoiled food, such as in salmonella.

    The "organic food" labels are also a bit tricky to read and depend on what our laws now state, which unfortunately I currently do not know much about. In general, food ingredients are supposed to be listed in the order of the quantity present, although I have read about exceptions to this law or rule, so this confuses me as well. Whether labelled organic or not, one is a lways wise to buy fresh food and never eat it when it is set out too long or when there is doubt that it might be becoming spoiled.

    With the ever-increasing amount of fresh meat, fruit and vegetables coming from overseas sources, I should think that safe preservatives and meticulous handling procedures should be an imperative priority that outweighs nonpreservative organic food. Still, with organic food, they are still subject to uncontrolled micro-pathogens that might go unnoticed, contaminated ground soil and water, acid rain, and unclean handling and packaging, just to name a few. I don't think that it's worth the scrupulous attention. Nevertheless, I myself am a scrupulous food shopper and always read the ingredient labels. I will always buy a canned or frozen food that contains little or no preservatives over one that does not. But then this means that you have to be aware of the names of all the preservatives and the degree of mistrust or danger that you place on them.
     

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