Piracy-Proof Music

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I find that quite funny! They cannot make it unreadable by a computer. Making statements like that is just begging to get copied. Hackers are going to see it as a challenge. And I'm sure there are some hackers out there who have never failed a "challenge" they put there minds to. I already have a good idea of how I could copy it...(But I won't tell you!)

 

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Sounds just like the fragile records of old. At least the cd's hold up to playing without damage. It doesn't take long for vinyl records to develop pitts within the grooves as dust gathers. The needle pushes it along until there is a ball it can no longer push, then it jumps over the dust ball and when the diamond needle hits the vilyl again there is a pitt that results in static or a pop. Looks like we are going backwards to me. There is one thing good about vinyl records and that is the dynamic range with all the ambiance of the recording is captured in it's medium. You miss a lot of that with the digital sampling rates. It's called sampling because it gets only a portion of the total signal. That means there is always something missed between the samples, no matter how fast they are.

As to the hacker bit, it sounds as if the industry has put out a challenge to see if it is worth pressing the records. If the hackers can not crack it within a certain amount of time the maybe they will go ahead with their process. It is not going to stand the test of time because sooner or later someone learns the process, learns the methods, and how to go about cracking the media...

 

You know what, I'm wondering if this is the same protection scheme I heard of recently. Sony dumped millions of dollars into a copy protection scheme for CDs, and it can be foiled by a simple black marker!

 

Not true. Just go to any news groups. There are lots of vinyl records made into MP3's.

MP3 proof is what this article is talking about. That is what the article meant by filing sharing problems. It basically requires a totally different player with can decode encripted music. I don't see it happening any time soon. Music industry will waste billions of dollars to push this through and then find out whatever they come up with can still be pirated.

 

It is known that a vinyl record deteriorates by th e physical act of playing it. In order to address this problem, one company built a record player that worked by reflecting a laser beam off of the record instead of dragging a diamond "needle" across it. It turns out, that has it's problems as well. The grooves tend to collect dust and reading them with a laser produces more pops and clicks than with a needle. The needle pushes much of the dust out of the way.

I'm sure that it is possible that the rocord could be scanned with a laser to produce a computer 3D model of it. Then a machine could then machine a copy from the 3D model. Perhaps an algorithm could be created to find and remove the dust particles from the 3d model.

 

mind tht this new format needs special turntables!

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who in the world would buy these and trash their cd players??

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they won't make me to return to vinil, NO WAY. Besides every record can be copyed nomatter how good its protection is and even if it is "uncracable" . I just need to place an extra sensitive superadvanced microphone next to the soumd source

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Yes, there you are right.

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And then there is always the possibility to put the Music on a simple, regular cassette-tape. Works outstanding and lasts years and years. Shall have nothing to do with Science or Technology, I have vinyl records which go back to the early 70's and are still in very good shape. no scratch whatsoever. It's just the way you treat your Music and how much you care for it, to keep the records in good shape. And a turntable too, just every so now and then a new needle and the records play as well as a c.d. No complaints on my side. I love my records. Sometimes it is not possible to buy the Music, from a record on c.d., because it is to old and not available on c.d. Then it is wonderful to have the records and play them. Then again, even c.d.'s get scratches if you don't treat them well and than they won't play well any more. There's a pro and con on as well records and c.d.'s here.

Apologies if this is way offtopic...

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Is it legal to download mp3s of songs you have on vinil?

I have LA Woman on vinil, but I no longer have a player for it.

Can I download LA Woman from wherever I find it?

 

who cares

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legal or not , what's the difference. I download and I listen. Noone just simply walks in your house and checks your hdd for pirated soft or media

 

The difference is logfiles. They don't need to check your HD to know what you are doing.

 

lol I know they are being kept for 3 months. But who's gona check them? Be serious, if one ISP started to get on people who download illegal music or whatever, they'd spoil their reputation and get a free anti-promotion campaign. It's not profitable to them to bother what you are downloading.

 

Just download the Songs you want and burn them to a c.d.

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Then you have all the Music you want as long as you want to listen to it. Don't care if it is legal or not. What will "they" do then. Come over and take away the computer? Oh, if "they" only dare to try...!

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I mostly download about 14 - 18 Songs and that becomes a great c.d.

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Beautiful, play them over and over - everything I want. ( if it is downloadable, that is, sometimes Songs have copyrights and it is simply not possible to download them - grrrrrrrrrr.

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Banshee, are you talking about things like mp3.com? Cause I use that too. Lots of great music. Nothing illegal about it. If you have other resources of copyright free music, please tell me

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Avatar, I thought they kept te logs for 3 YEARS...

If justice is smart, they will take some guilty IP's from different providers. No use running to another provider then.

I just don't feel comfy about it all.

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I advice you to use www.audiogalaxy.com
been using it for 1.5 years now. it's great.
legal and illegal music.

in our country there are only 6 people catching those who do illegal downloads. and besides they know tht it is of no use. by official reports 85% of software in our country is illegal. and mind they are only official data.

if they wanted to arrest every one who has ever downloaded or bought an illegal soft then it would be about 90-95% of those who have computers in their homes.

 

Here in Belgium, some have been unlucky. you don't go to jail or anything, but they take your computer ("confiscate") and there's a large fine.

 

do they trace them by log files?

hmm intersting......it appears tht I maybe will have to get a proxy.