Why is the U.S starving its own people?

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  1. Oniw17 ascetic, sage, diogenes, bum? Valued Senior Member

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  3. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    It was there under the figure:
     
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  5. volpeculus sagacis Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodies Registered Senior Member

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    You know, there better ways to deal with poverty than asking the government to squander other people's money on ineffective programs. I'd rather have livestock from Heifer International than food stamps and Victory Coffee.
     
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  7. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    Did you even read the quote from your own link that you never read?
     
  8. vincent Sir Vincent, knighted by HM Registered Senior Member

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    You will find it is the illegal & legal immigrants who came to america in the last 30 years who are the ones starving, in your country OZ its the Aboriginees who are starving or out of work & uneducated, its the same all over the world, anybody who chooses to go to america should do so with a good trade behind them, a mexican or a african usually has neither, if i went to live in OZ without a trade i would starve too, if a brit wants to emigrate to oz they will only be accepted if they are a engineer, doctor etc, america's open borders & open door policy in the past has filled the country with uneducated people, who if the get a job it will always be a poorly paid one.

    America is not starving americans, people who choose to go there are starving themselves by not getting a good trade or education behind them before going there.
     
  9. Chatha big brown was screwed up Registered Senior Member

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    I don't even know why you are paying attention to this rubbish. Take a look at the British people and take a look at Americans, conclude for yourself who looks malnurished. For that matter take a look at Americans and people of all other countries. Then again, who knows what genetically mortified stuff Americans eat for food these days. America is the drug capital of the world, there is a drug in everything, for everything, and about everything. The food and drug is the biggest industry in the nation.
     
  10. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    No dude, you do have to excuse me. Last year the governments at all levels took about $35,000 of my money in direct and indirect taxes. If I had donated that money to the Salvation Army they could have fed ten families of four or completely supported two of them. What did those governments do with that money?
    • Threw it at some little drenn-hole of a country that we're supposed to be afraid of, even though with our help and seven years to do it it couldn't even defeat Iran.
    • Paid subsidies to tobacco farmers.
    • Bought people's homes and gave the land to developers to build shopping malls that will be exempt from property tax for years.
    • Bribed professional sports teams whose athletes "earn" seven-figure salaries into coming to their city--and built them a stadium.
    • Paid thirteen layers of bureaucrats to sit around all day and "administer" each other.
    Because of these confiscatory taxes I don't have the ability to be as charitable as I would like. I also feel rather resentful about it because the left-liberals who assure me that the charity industry must be nationalized like education (which worked so well) are the ones who keep bloating the ranks of the civil "servants" so less of my tax money goes anywhere except their own pockets.

    Americans were once one of the most charitable people on earth. We could be again. But when the federal budget alone leeches off a full 20% of our GDP and delivers virtually nothing in return, it makes us all quite a bit poorer.
     
  11. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    http://www.heritage.org/Research/Welfare/bg1713.cfm

    The following are facts about persons defined as "poor" by the Census Bureau, taken from various government reports:

    Forty-six percent of all poor households actually own their own homes. The average home owned by persons classified as poor by the Census Bureau is a three-bedroom house with one-and-a-half baths, a garage, and a porch or patio.
    Seventy-six percent of poor households have air conditioning. By contrast, 30 years ago, only 36 percent of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning.
    Only 6 percent of poor households are overcrowded. More than two-thirds have more than two rooms per person.
    The average poor American has more living space than the average individual living in Paris, London, Vienna, Athens, and other cities throughout Europe. (These comparisons are to the average citizens in foreign countries, not to those classified as poor.)
    Nearly three-quarters of poor households own a car; 30 percent own two or more cars.
    Ninety-seven percent of poor households have a color television; over half own two or more color televisions.
    Seventy-eight percent have a VCR or DVD player; 62 percent have cable or satellite TV reception.
    Seventy-three percent own microwave ovens, more than half have a stereo, and a third have an automatic dishwasher.
    As a group, America's poor are far from being chronically undernourished. The average consumption of protein, vitamins, and minerals is virtually the same for poor and middle-class children and, in most cases, is well above recommended norms. Poor children actually consume more meat than do higher-income children and have average protein intakes 100 percent above recommended levels. Most poor children today are, in fact, supernourished and grow up to be, on average, one inch taller and 10 pounds heavier that the GIs who stormed the beaches of Normandy in World War II.

    While the poor are generally well-nourished, some poor families do experience hunger, meaning a temporary discomfort due to food shortages. According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), 13 percent of poor families and 2.6 percent of poor children experience hunger at some point during the year. In most cases, their hunger is short-term. Eighty-nine percent of the poor report their families have "enough" food to eat, while only 2 percent say they "often" do not have enough to eat.

    Overall, the typical American defined as poor by the government has a car, air conditioning, a refrigerator, a stove, a clothes washer and dryer, and a microwave. He has two color televisions, cable or satellite TV reception, a VCR or DVD player, and a stereo. He is able to obtain medical care. His home is in good repair and is not overcrowded. By his own report, his family is not hungry and he had sufficient funds in the past year to meet his family's essential needs. While this individual's life is not opulent, it is equally far from the popular images of dire poverty conveyed by the press, liberal activists, and politicians.
     
  12. madanthonywayne Morning in America Registered Senior Member

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    Nobody, except perhaps the clinically insane, is starving in the US. To even suggest that there is any comparison between the US morbidly obese poor, and the North Korean actually starving poor is an insult to the suffering of the North Koreans.
     
  13. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    Any American who is actually obviously starving and not just a couple of meals behind can go stand on a corner in any city, dressed so as to show his state of malnutrition, and he'll be showered with money. Someone will even drag him into a McDonalds and stuff him with hamburgers.

    If it's a big city there's a Salvation Army or Union Rescue Mission that will feed him. If it's a smaller town he can walk into a church and someone will take pity on him.

    It's not easy to alleviate homelessness but hunger can be treated quickly and cheaply. No American, absolutely none of us except the sociopathic fringe like gang members, will stand by and allow someone to starve. If anyone is starving in this country it's due to some other problem, such as an inappropriate pride that prevents him from enduring the humiliation of seeking help from strangers in public.
     
  14. madanthonywayne Morning in America Registered Senior Member

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    Exactly, this whole thread is absurd.
     
  15. TimeTraveler Immortalist Registered Senior Member

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  16. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    We have the quality of food that we want. The kind of food you're talking about is easily available at affordable prices to anyone who wants it. In America eating is a compromise between nutrition and recreation and a great many of us lean more toward the recreational side. Fortunately it's a free country and we can do that if we want. A lot of poor people have really sad lives (duh) and food is one of their few pleasures. That's why when I give a beggar three dollars he'll spend it on a Happy Meal instead of enough groceries for six meals.

    It's also why I refuse to completely eliminate trans-fatty acids from my diet.

    Our Mesolithic ancestors had to eat a survival-obsessed diet because it was the only one available to them. I have a choice and I choose not to live that way, as do most Americans. This preference is neither irrational nor ignorant.
     
  17. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    It's Happy Meals for everyone in Fraggle's mythical Happy Land of Milk and Honey, where money falls as if from trees, and sausages grow from the sausage bushes!
     
  18. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    And the fact still is that if you need food in this country all you have to do is go to any number of organizations from the Salvation Army, to Good Will, to local church food pantry's, the government has food giveaway programs, just read the paper for the time and place, anyone starving in America wants to starve, I went through the telephone book in my county and found 56 places to get food assistance, all for no charge, so how the hell do you starve in America, in Korea they do not have the option of the Salvation Army, Good Will, Church Food Pantry's, or government giveaways, as there is no extra food to be had.
     

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