Minimum Wage

Lol.

 

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rofl

 

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Hell where is this guy? I'd fucking do it. Odds are he is nowhere around here... but by the rare chance he is.. I'll do it.

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Absolute bullshit. It is cerainly possible that everyone be at the top so long as everyone is talented and innovative enough to benefit everyone else.

In a simplified society of 4 people,lets say one makes food, one makes clothes, one makes houses, and one makes commodities. Obviously this isn't right but my point is that each has something unique to offer, each fills a niche in the system. Each person in the society needs every other person's product, so if everyone can can produce their product and then trade, each person can end up with more of each product than they would have been able to porduce by themselves. It is called specialization and it is what drives capiatlism. Take an economics class, you will learn that when you specialize in something, you increase your worth. So long as people have the creativity and talent to do something bettr than someone else, everyone will continue to benefit.

The rich are not parasites of society, teh poor are. The rich find ways to improve society by finding something that people want that will impreove their lives and providing taht good or service. By being an asset to society, society repays them with more money. The poor, who can not think of any way to contribute to society, do not receive money back from society. You say capitalism is unfair, i believe it is perfectly just.

You may say that someone always has to fill the menial jobs like a janitor, and since this person can really provide no innovation or new benefi other than by working harder, there will always be a poor class. But do you know why janitors are payed so little, becasue there are so many people who can be janitors. If a janitor wnats to be payed 100$ an hour, a million other people will volunteer to do it for less and less and less until you arrive at the natural minimum wage. Now if you are talking about a brain surgeon rather than a janitor it goes teh otehr way. If someone wants a brain surgeon to operate on him for 10$ an hour, the surgeon can say no, and since there are not millions of brain surgeons, the patient has no other otption but to raise the pay--the jobs with less people capable of doing it have more power. Maybe when you realize that you and the work you do is no more valuable than a machine or an animal then you will realize why you dont get payed more.

 

LOL!!!

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Something tells me Jeff Trump is 16 and works the drive thru at Burger King. If this is true I forgive him for his incredible naivitie

 

I forgot to add, in a society where everyone had a specialized niche, yes ther would still be a need for "menial" jobs, but guess what, since there are less people available to do taht job since each is creating his own niche, guess what, the janitor's wages go up. As a matter of fact, if only one person was capbale or available to clean bathrooms, he could make so much money because there would be such a great deman and so little supply. The wage for the only janitor in the world would be higher than that of a brain surgen if there were more tahn 1 of them (assuming the demand for both is equal)

 

are you going to back that claim up at all that I am naive? why am i naive? becasue I beliebe that a peson who can benefit society will prosper and those who can not contribute more than an ox will not?

 

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Sigh. You have only 18 posts. When you hit 3 digits I may take you more seriously.

 

hahahaha genji you are so funny. You have no responses or argument to go against what i say, all u can do is call me a trump worshipping 16 year old who works at burger king and masturbates all day. And when confronted with a direct question to qualify your opinion and attempt to invalidate mine, you back down becasue I dont have enough posts??? grow up genji, at least have the courage to say you have no response if that is teh case.

 

Learning to spell might get you that corporate suckup job shuffling papers! Better take a semester or two at Yale

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Supply and demand.

 

HAHAHA. This is the third time you have evaded my questions with irrelevant ad hominem arguments. Are you serious? Is that really a response to my question? What if I have arthritis and I have trouble typing? And you have the nerve to call me immature?? Are you actually capable of responding to an argument, or do you just dodge the issue and talk about masturbation or trivial spelling errors? I would love to see you in a debate on television or something; the other person would be making an argument and you would tell him his shirt was ugly or something to that extent. That would be funny.

Hmmm lets see... I haven't made any spelling errors I dont think. I'm sorry if I did and your understanding of my point is therefore hindered, leaving you once again unable to respond.

Please, I am not asking for much, either respond to my direct question to you or say you have no response. I don't appreciate the insults, they are irrelavant to the thread and hurtful.

Thank you

 

I co-hosted a late night political radio show for 4 years so yeah, I know how to debate. But using that fuel, on the clock, with ultra rightists is a waste of my time and gets nowhere. Maybe after you apply some more mileage I might find you interesting enough to engage.

 

Fair enough Genji, I accept your withdrawal. And might I add that I find it equally frustrating debating with you. I dont even undersatnd why I post on this forum, nobody ever changes their mind so whats the point. I agree, this is a waste of my time.

 

"The rich are not parasites of society, teh poor are"

Exactly.

It's all "sinks and sources". If you're a sink, you're a parasite.

 

Perhaps you should rethink exactly who the "sinks" and who the "sources" are. The poor are the ones who actually do the labor and produce the wealth. The rich are the parasites that co-opt the wealth produced by the poor through some dubious claim of owning the means of production. They produce little to no new wealth themselves.

 

Who forces them to do that?

Baron Max

 

How will they feed themselves & their family?

 

I don't know ...maybe they could raise a garden and some chickens? But they shouldn't go to work for some rich guy who is exploiting them ...and if they do, then they shouldn't bitch n' moan about it.

Baron Max

 

It is impossible for the poor to be a parasite. All the rich do all day is take take take from the poor. They sit there with their hand out, and the poor put millions and millions of money in there with no choice. This is global debt.