all men are homosexuals

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  1. phonetic stroking my banjo Registered Senior Member

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    Ah well.. he's convinced me. Let the buggery begin.
     
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  3. kingcarrot Registered Senior Member

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    well homosexuallity is presumed by the defensive to be that something must be shoved into your anus, but this can also be a heterosexual act

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    This is the fear and defenses arising.
    now i am sure if you were to poll a group of homosexuals they would say homosexuallity is merely allowing yourself to fall in love with and into the arms of another man (this can also be true of women).
    the diversity of their daily lives is still maintained.

    to not allow yourself to do this is a tradition of mostly western civilization and the oedipus complex we've been given during primeval days.
    of course the logical christians would deny these days ever were because clearly adam and eve were a more rational way to have begun this catastrophe.
    now to say that being straight is purely defensive basically is saying that your ability to let things fly is more important than you think, to turn the other cheek persay.
    i recall a saying of my good friends father to further make this point, "don't be a faggot, get even" .
     
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  5. The Devil Inside Banned Banned

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    dont be mad at me, baby!!!
    i was only joshing!
     
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  7. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    I'm straight, and I was born this way.
    I don't appreciate people telling me I am gay, or turning gay, or will turn gay.
    It is not going to happen. It has never happened in the history of humankind. It is not possible for humans to change sexual preference.
     
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  8. RubiksMaster Real eyes realize real lies Registered Senior Member

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    I'm pretty sure it's possible, if rather unlikely. And I don't appreciate it either, but ignorance tends to reveal itself on internet forums.

    That's a straw man. Nobody is saying that shoving something up the ass is the same thing as being gay. That's you pretending it is believed by all heterosexuals, just so you can refute it and think you made progress.
     
  9. Cross Registered Senior Member

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    So then your saying as homosexuality is just the allowing for same-sex love, heterosexuality would just be the disallowing for it? So being "straight" is just disallowing what life allows for then? Something like that?

    So when you say all men are homosexual, you just mean heterosexauls disallow for this where life doesn't, and they choose to disallow because of defensiveness?

    So being "homosexual" would then be like an assertion of what life allows for, a realm of freedom say, expressing it, and heterosexuality compares to this as being like a defense against that freedom, a negation of it?

    People say life does not allow for it for them, though. Their life. They say, like "Cool Skill" does, that they're born "straight" meaning the "allowance" or freedom, doesn't exist for them. Their discrete identity doesn't permit it for them, so cannot be vetoed by an act of will. It's not a matter of will.

    If you say an assertion like that isn't true, then what can you point to to demonstrate it's not? If those classified as "homosexual" are not displaying a discrete identity of their own, or a maladaptation either, or even just foolishness, then how does one know this? I mean how does one know it aside from people's personal testimonies about themselves and the like? How does one know it about human nature as such?

    And what about procreation? Isn't heterosexuality, the "orientation", a necessity of the continuation of the species? Isn't the necessity of procreation something which can be pointed to as demonstrative of a discrete catagory of "heterosexuality" which therefore must exist? If all men are homosexual, then human beings shouldn't exist? How does procreation fit into the "all men are homosexual" statement, or should we cease all procreation immediately?
     
  10. Genji Registered Senior Member

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    I just now found this. I feel better now

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  11. devils_reject Registered Senior Member

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    One reason for the feminization of men is heterosexual pornography. Most of us have watched one or two heterosexual pornography growing up, that’s good, and in fact it serves a purpose. The problem with most people is that they forget to turn off the heterosexual materials as they grow up into sexual maturity; either that or they just seem to get off on the material more than homosexual. I am a man(straight man) and I watch only pornography staring women alone because I started having a problem watching another man in the act. Now some men are completely comfortable enough with their sexuality to continue watching men in pornography, but the truth is that there will always be threads of bisexualism since you can’t possible ignore the images. Again, not that there is anything really wrong with this. No human is born straight, gay, or bisexual, but our sexuality is determined and conditioned by the external environment. By the time you are 22-25 years its time to cut off the heterosexual engagements and watch only porn of the opposite sex alone, if you are not turned on by then you aren't particularly true to your sexuality. It is important to remember that sex is overrated and commercialized anyway.
     
  12. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    Of course you can be born a certain way. You can make a drosophila fly gay by changing its genetic content. Learning can modulate what is genetically there.

    Genet Res. 2005 Jun;85(3):183-93.

    Effect of genes, social experience, and their interaction on the courtship behaviour of transgenic Drosophila males.
    Svetec N, Houot B, Ferveur JF.

    Behaviour depends (a) on genes that specify the neural and non-neural elements involved in the perception of and responses to sensory stimuli and (b) on experience that can modulate the fine development of these elements. We exposed transgenic and control Drosophila melanogaster males, and their hybrids, to male siblings during adult development and measured the contribution of genes and of experience to their courtship behaviour. Then transgene CheB42a specifically targets male gustatory sensillae and alters the perception of male inhibitory pheromones which leads to frequent male-
    male interactions. The age at which social experience occurred and the
    genotype of tester males induced a variable effect on the intensity of male homo- and heterosexual courtship. The strong interaction between the effects of genes and of social experience reveals the plasticity of the apparently stereotyped elements involved in male courtship behaviour. Finally, a high intensity of homosexual courtship was found only in males that simultaneously carried a mutation in their white gene and the CheB42a transgene.
     
  13. devils_reject Registered Senior Member

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    LOL isn't that how the Food and drug community said being obese is in your genetic code. Look I am not refuting the fact that genes can be engineered and genes convey information and predisposed instructions. The fact is that genes are still subject to the environment, the environment is the first and locust of all information and interaction, whether synthetic or natural. If there is no food in the environment in the first place here will be no "food obsessed" code in your genes, simple as that. So naturally all behavior and makeup is a function of the environment. Nothing circumvents the enviroment.
     

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