Arabs, Muslims First Class Citizens in Israel's Super Democracy

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  1. Kiwi123 Banned Banned

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    Palestinian Arab Muslims first class citizens in Israel whereas Israeli Jews are second class citizens?



    Imagine, Israeli non Arabs (i.e., Jews) have to put up with:

    1) Back stabbing -- example #1:

    Constant finding out on more and more Israeli Arabs aiding genocide bombers (whether with info or more than that), stabbing the very Israel, they're citizens of, thus indirectly murdering their fellow Israelis, the Israeli Jews...

    2) Back stabbing -- example #2:

    The Israeli Arab parliament members constantly whine about being "second class" citizens, after getting free education and achieving whatever they achieve, inside equal-rights & equal-access democractic Israel. As payback, these back stabbers are tarnishing Israel's image all over, especially on Arab global media.

    3) Uneven rights -- Arab's advantage over Jews:

    Israeli Arabs (unlike Israeli Jews) are exempt from serving in Israeli army (which is naturally for the protection of all Israelis), still they enjoy the same rights as Israeli Jews: voting, education, free speech, etc.

    4) Now the favorite part: Israeli Courts (& often security) favor Israeli Arabs over Jews.


    Who's second class now?



    Favoring Arabs over Jews Inside Israel



    Fact Sheet #24:
    Israel's Security Fence Every effort is being made to exclude Palestinian villages from the area within the fence and no territories are being annexed... Israel's Supreme Court took up the grievances of Palestinians and required the government to move the fence in the area near Jerusalem to make things easier for the Palestinians. http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/talking/24_fence.html

    Fence Rulings: Democracy in Action Israel's Supreme Court sided with the Palestinians in a precedent-setting decision Wednesday, ordering the government to reroute part of its West Bank

    Divesting from Morality [Jews can't live in Arab states or in the Palestinian Authority but] ... Israeli Arabs sit in the Knesset, serve on the Israeli Supreme Court and ... http://www.law.harvard.edu/faculty/dershowitz/Articles/morality.html

    Nightmare or Dream (Eugene Narrett, PhD) May, 2000 When Jews try to collect other debts from Arabs, the same ingratitude emerges, not just from the Arabs, but enforced by Israeli courts where "the chances ...
    http://www.freeman.org/m_online/may00/narrett.htm

    Arabs, Muslims first class citizens in democratic Israel? (Temple Mount shut to non-Muslims on election eve) http://lightonthings.blogspot.com/2006/03/arabs-muslims-first-class-citizens-in.html

    One Jerusalem -- Blog -- Help Keep Jerusalem United! After spending over an hour discussing Israel's challenges I came away with the ... Anyway, since Olmert prefers to beat and threaten Jews in Hebron, ...
    http://www.onejerusalem.org/blog/archives/2006/01/israels_challen.asp

    The Jewish struggle Against Arabs in Israel Wherever there's a problem with Arabs, a new "disengagement" plan?
    http://web.israelinsider.com/Views/4511.htm

    Supreme Court Rulings - Jews Protest in Jerusalem to protest against the recent anti-Jewish rulings of the Israeli Supreme Court. ...
    http://www.ahavat-israel.com/protest/rulings.php

    An Israeli Supreme Court ruling did not deny that the land was Jewish-owned, but ordered the Jews to be moved out in order that ... sinners not go unpunished. ... http://www.ourjerusalem.com/action/story/protest-against-the-pogrom-in-amona.html

    "The Hell of Israel Is Better than the Paradise of Arafat the 200000 Arab residents of Jerusalem preferred to remain under Israeli ... In fact, most of the Arabs in the city prefer to live under Israeli rule ...
    http://www.danielpipes.org/article/2534




    Myths VS Facts


    Human Rights in Israel and the Territories Today, within Israel, Jews are a majority, but the Arab minority are full citizens who enjoy equal rights. Arabs are represented in the Knesset, ... http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/mf18.html

    Israeli Arabs: Expectations and Realities, Abdel Rahman Zuabi, Deputy President of the Nazareth District Court, became the first Arab to sit on Israel's Supreme Court. ... http://www.jcpa.org/jl/vp478.htm

    "Apartheid"? The High Court and leading Israeli Arab Politicians http://www.beyondimages.info/b53.html

    AJN - Israeli Arab involvement in terror grows Since the intifada began in September 2000 -- and Israeli Arabs rioted in sympathy ... scores of Israeli Arabs have been detained for alleged contacts with ..
    http://www.ajn.com.au/pages/archives/intifada/0028-intifada-02.html

    Twisted Words and Phrases (2) More examples of Arab propaganda, giving new meaning to old words.
    http://www.factsandlogic.org/ad_87.html

    FLAME: The Arabs of Israel: Are they (really) a "persecuted minority? Like all other Israeli citizens, they have full rights to vote and to hold elective office. Both Arabs and Druze hold seats in the Knesset, the Israeli ...
    http://www.factsandlogic.org/ad_08.html

    Middle-East-Info.org - Arabs and Muslims in Israel Israeli Arabs and Muslims have the right to vote and to hold public office, ... They have full rights to citizenship. They are free to speak their minds. ...
    http://www.middle-east-info.org/gateway/arabsinisrael/index.htm

    Israel and the Arab-Israeli Conflict To the contrary, today one-fifth of Israel's citizens are non-Jews, including over one million Arabs, and Arabic is an official national language. ... http://www.ict.org.il/articles/articledet.cfm?articleid=414

    Arab Refugees and the Right of Return After the end of hostilities in 1949, there were 140000 Arabs in Israel. ... the Jews lived for generations as second-class citizens in a primitive, ... http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~samuel/refugees.html

    The Jewish Refugees From Arab Countries - Israel's War Against ...Jews had never been more than "second-class citizens" under Arab rule, the report says, but their life became "simply untenable" after Israel appeared. ...
    http://www.israel-wat.com/jewishrefugees_eng.htm

    The Arabs of Israel (Part 1) Israel is first and foremost a society of Jewish immigrants. ... The Arabs of Israel became bi-cultural and bi-lingual citizens, educated in accordance with ... http://www.wzo.org.il/en/resources/view.asp?id=24

    IHC [In Muslim countries] Ethnic minorities such as Azeris, Arabs, Kurds, Turkomans and Baluchis, are treated as second-class citizens. Women in Iran are struggling for their rights, ... http://www.infoisrael.net/cgi-local/text.pl?source=3/e/050720029

    Israeli Arabs: Expectations And Realities http://www.jcpa.org/jl/vp478.htm

    [/url=http://www.themiddleeastnow.com/arabtreatmentofpalestinians.html]Arab Treatment of Palestinians There is much information reguarding Israel's treatment of Palestinians. However there is not much out there discussing Arab treatment of Palestinian[/url]

    The "Brutal" Israeli Occupation? Every Arab who fell under Israeli "occupation" was free to live his life ... The Israeli treatment of captured populations had a lot in common with the ... http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/4/29/31242.shtml

    AN ANSWER TO THE NEW ANTI-ZIONISTS: THE RIGHTS OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE TO A SOVEREIGN STATE IN THEIR HISTORIC HOMELAND http://www.jcpa.org/jl/vp507.htm

    (Arabs) A Free People in Our Land: The Status of the Arab Sector in Israel For the first time, an Arab Justice was appointed to the Supreme Court and Arab deputy ministers have served in Israel's Government. Arab citizens serve in ...

    YI Guide to the Israeli-Palestinian Dispute Distorting Israeli Arab RealityThe co-existence of Jewish and Arab citizens of Israel has long been a model for ... Miller's first claim -- that Israeli Arabs lack 'access to military or ...
    http://www.youngisrael.org/israel.htm

    Critiques Distorting Israeli Arab Reality http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/45884734/critiques/Distorting_Israeli_Arab_Reality.asp
    The missing piece http://powerlineblog.com/archives/013494.php

    Review of The Forgotten Millions: The Modern Jewish Exodus from Arab Lands. The volume contains some first-class talent, mostly Israel academics, and they cover ... http://www.danielpipes.org/article/817


    First they came for Israel, then they came for America . ... everywhere in the Arab and Muslim worlds are usually second-class citizens at best and terribly

    israelinsider: Views: A virtual tour of (so called) "Apartheid" Israel... a dhimmi (second class citizen) and an enemy of their state. ... In the Apartheid State of Israel there are almost one million Arabs. ...
    http://web.israelinsider.com/views/6787.htm

    JIMENA Jews Indigenous to the Middle East & North Africa were considered dhimmi, a "protected" group of second-class citizens. ... On May 15, 1948, five Arab armies invaded Israel with the intention of ...
    http://www.jimena.org/faq.htm

    UJC -- Israel and the Arab-Israeli Conflict: A Brief Guide for the ...And who knows better than the citizens of Israel, who include Holocaust survivors and refugees from communist lands and from Arab extremism, how dangerous ...
    http://www.ujc.org/content_display.html?ArticleID=68620


    Like "apartheid South Africa". ... non-Muslims are treated as second-class citizens (the despised Dhimmi). ...



    Misc.


    Jihad Watch: Slain Israeli Arab's father begs for sanity in PA My message first of all to the religious leaders, the Palestinian leadership, ... who reside as Israeli Arab citizens, repect the land they live in, ...
    http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/001716.php

    Arutz Sheva - (Israel National News) Throughout the Arab world, women are routinely treated as second-class citizens or worse. In Saudi Arabia, women are prohibited by law from driving cars...
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/article.php3?id=488
     
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  3. Pi-Sudoku Slightly extreme Registered Senior Member

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    Muslims will never be first class citizens in Israel, in a country that is governed by a particular religious group they will nenver give equal rights to people of another faith.
     
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  5. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Pi-Sudoku, is that like the same 2nd class citizenship rights that Moslem Controlled countries confer on non Arab citizens in their countries? and that if you are of another faith they can kill you for the most inane reasons?
     
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  7. Zakariya04 and it was Valued Senior Member

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    Hi Kiwi

    You are funny!!!!
     
  8. Vega Banned Banned

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    Like I said in my earlier posts democracy and Islam don't mix!
     
  9. Zakariya04 and it was Valued Senior Member

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    hey vega

    hows Kuala Lumpar and you new wealthy bird???

    Well democracy works in Lebanon and the wets bank unless the US and Israel object to who the people have voted in of-course
     
  10. aaa Registered Senior Member

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    wake up, hizballah controls lebanon. so does hamas in gaza. both are a bunch of terrorists and they dont want to acknowledge democracy since they like to shoot people in the middle of the street without having someone to say something about it.
     
  11. Pi-Sudoku Slightly extreme Registered Senior Member

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    Hizballah aren't ellected although they do have support of most citizens.
    Hamas are elected but since they have no power to speak of the entire government is irrelevant
     
  12. thedevilsreject Registered Senior Abuser Registered Senior Member

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    hamas still has more power than hizballah, hizballah have no support from the lebaneses government
     
  13. Kiwi123 Banned Banned

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    We can all see that you have just replied BLINDLY.

    Well, You should start learning about Israel, the first thing you should know that unlike palestinians and all Arab Muslim neighbours (that none of them is free), Israel is REALLY (not like phony Turkey) a SECULAR society, stop listening tio fanatical left wings or to Al S'HITzeera.

    Start by replying how come only Muslims were allowed on Temple mount but no Jew on certain evenings, that by "Jewish" Israeli Zionist regime.

    Or the various housing disputes that Israeli courts prefer Arabs over Jews in so many cases.
     
  14. Kiwi123 Banned Banned

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    Of course, palestinians and other Arabs are the first victims of radicals, before the westerners are.
     
  15. Zakariya04 and it was Valued Senior Member

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    hi aaa,

    thank you for this

    i am afriad you are wrong, Hizbollah is not considered a terrorist group here in the UK by the government pls check the records!!

    Hamas are an elected body to the PA...

    this is fact
     
  16. Kiwi123 Banned Banned

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    Zakaryia04, hi, Keif Chalek? hope all is well with you.

    Does one feel better that UK didn't brand them as such officially?

    It reminds me of the Pope and cartoons, Muslims (by in large) couldn't care less what the west thinks, as long as westerners don't SAY it out loud?
    Strange.
     
  17. Zakariya04 and it was Valued Senior Member

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    Kiwiw

    i am well thank you i hope all is good with you

    muslims are westerners too.
     
  18. aaa Registered Senior Member

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    thats not the issue. when nasrallah kidnapped the israeli soldiers, he should have let the government know about his actions. but no. he doesnt give a shit. DEMOCRACY IN PROGRESS.
     
  19. Zakariya04 and it was Valued Senior Member

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    Hi aaa,

    yoiu are right Lebanon failed to do what israel tried to do through 18 years of illegally occupying South Lebanon and that is get rid opf the entity they created, which is Hezbollah.

    Oh and by the way how many Labanese people are now held in Israelis dungeons
     
  20. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Zakariya, are you talking about Lebanese or are they Palestinians who operated from Lebanon, or are they Hezbullah terrorist, or any of the alphabet soup legion of terrorist organization that kill Israeli citizens out of hand because they are set on the absolute destruction of Israel?
     
  21. Zakariya04 and it was Valued Senior Member

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    Good Morning Buffalo,

    Sorry I dont understand what you are saying, but what about the lebanese and Palestinians which are killed out of hand by israelis

    So

    Muslims only kill innocent Israelis but Israelis only kill miltants (legitimate targets)
     
  22. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    That's all just lies and terrorist propaganda bullshit!

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    See? Now ye're beginning to understand it all! Keep studying, Zak, pretty soon you'll be one of us, too. And you'll have a fine home, plenty of good food and drink, and we'll provide lovely, young virgins for your evening entertainment.

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  23. Zakariya04 and it was Valued Senior Member

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    Obviously!!!

    Baron

    i found this comment appaulling how the fuck do you know what my life is like and how dare you compare it to yours, your arrogance proves no bounds!!!

    How old are you baron? I am 32, whats to say that i already have a fine house, plenty of food etc etc etc.... without sounding conceited i think i am doing pretty well as things stand at the moment.

    then again i hope your comment was just a joke.. You and facts seem to have your funny hats on today!!!
     

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