The US has now also named Cuba, Libya and Syria in the 'axis of evil' (see article). Apart from the fact that someone should have told Bush you can only have three in an axis, what is the point of doing this now? Libya is on the verge of paying $2.4bn in compensation to the Lockerbie victims families. Al-Qadhafi has renounced terrorism and been useful in ending several hostage situations in recent years. Why is the US stirring where it doesn't need to stir (I mean Cuba!?)?
Cuba? Weapons of mass destruction in Cuba? Huh? I’ve got it - must be those Cuban cigars spreading lung cancer around the world. Those scurrilous no-good evil-doer Cuban bastards! I begin to notice how all of these countries are places that it is conceivable we could bomb. Try to remember that time in September when the enemy was a group of terrorists who had murdered thousands of American citizens. Ignoring the fact that the threat was ridiculously over-estimated, the real danger from that organization was in the existence of "sleeper cells" in the United States and in Europe. An international conspiracy if you will. Well, the only hope of dealing with a phenomena like that would be multilateral law enforcement operations. You can't bomb Hamburg. You can't bomb London and I suppose that means that Florida is off-limits as well. So the only way that you can effectively get after this problem is to rely on international co-operation; in short, multilateralism. But the current administration seems to be philosophically opposed to this. For them it is “our way or the highway.” So, rather than change their strategy to adapt to the new threat, they are pretending that the threat has changed. We are supposed to believe that the threat is really Iraq, or North Korea, or now Cuba or Syria. I'm wondering what countries, if any, will not be on the list of evil doers by ’04. It's like a bad comic book plot. Peace. …and for you conspiracy theorists out there: Bush can get rid of Castro, get the Cuban Miami vote for his brother, and be a "hero" all at once.
Chinese have Sung Tsu. We have a book called "Winning through Intimidation" or "Who moved my cheese" Civilizations do not mature overnight....
Bornofzapatasguns, that's just funny. I hope you're joking. 1) United $tate$ of AmeriKKKa. Well, every country uses the good old dollar, or some equivalent. Even your country. Every country, if it can, influences other countries to get what they want. The more money you have, the more you can influence other countries. The USA has heaps, so has heaps of influence. The only difference is degree. If the USA is guilty of anything in this regard, it's guilty of being better at making money. 2) Britain? Perhaps you meant England?
1) I despise capitalism and the value's it stands for. Money is not a necessity in this world. It is only there in order to create wants not needs. Needs in this world should be free. I see the U$A as the greediness nation on this earth, a society based only on wants not needs. And as for them being a third of the axis of evil, since 1946 AmeriKKKa has bombed over 20 countries supposedly ridding the world of the tyrannies of Communism or to protect peoples lives. Only Stalinism and forms of it have been used in this world not communism. AmeriKKKa watches out for AmeriKKKa and no one else. If they go to war, there's strings attached. 2)No, I mean Britain. Scots, Welsh people, Northern Irish and English all form Britain and the people of each country influence the policies therefore Britain is the term I use. As for them being a part of the axis, they are AmeriKKKa's European puppet. They have always been happy to get into bed with AmeriKKKa in situations where they have no business in order to gain something for themselves. 3)The current Middle East conflict will explain why Israeli is included in my axis. They are the U$A's puppet in the ME. They continuously destroy and murder innocent people in what they call 'self-defense' yet they are the aggressor, not the Palestinians defending their homeland and themselves.
So, its okay for us to go to war to protect another country and spend billions of dollars and not expect anything in return. Get real. Do you know of any country that would go to war and not expect anything back. Look at all the food and resources we have put into Afganistan. The children GET to go to school now. The women GET to walk down the streets, but were just money hungry assholes who dont want to see any good in the world. Ya, keep that mentality and then wonder why everyone hates us so much. And I would worry about your own country before knocking ours, havent you been at war with yourselves for the last 100 years or so. Oh, and Welcome to Sciforums!!!! Nice to have someone to debate things with!!! Take carePlease Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
The point I was trying to make is that AmeriKKKa wouldn't go to war for these countries unless there is a reason to bring them there eg the Gulf War - Oil. When there's no reason for AmeriKKKa to protect a country then they won't leave. You can see the U$A as a humanitarian country if you like but you are very very wrong.
As for my country, I live in the Republic and the only time we were at war with ourselves was for about 2 years during the early 1920's. You're mistaken with the North.
And why is that we would go to war for no reason at all? Were going to risk our precious soldiers lives, billions of our dollars to go to war for someone else and not expect nothing in return. I see your point, but I know if I was president there better be a pretty darn good reason to go to war. And yes, I would expect something back for it.
You are too young to understand. It is a means to an end. See the next answer. I agree. Communism did not work. It caused a lot of grief everywhere except China. We have to work with the tools we have. And Capitalism is the best tool at present. You see in black and white. The color provides a lot more information. Sorry for your loss. Survival of the fittest comes to mind. May be America's growth is a new paradigm for better.... Change is hard to take. But it is a part of the property of the Universe. Life would be less miserable if one accepts the change. Perhaps you do not have enough information (as in looking at the forest from the trees) ...
In my opinion, communism has never been tried, only Stalinism and forms of it. Fair enough, you see capitalism as the best tool at present but I greatly disagree. OK, show me some 'colour' and we'll discuss it. Yes but things should not always be about yourself. Helping others must always come before wealth. What makes AmeriKKKan soldiers more 'precious' than any other person in the world. If they are unwilling to help others in trouble without something in return, it just shows that they care only about themselves and things that directly affect them.
BornOfZapatasGuns: Since you disagree, you must have a different tool. Show me .... Fair enough. Read most of my posts in this forum. If you still can not see, you may be incapable of seeing in color. Major surgery may be needed. Then there is the recovery and training period...make sure you are upto it. I agree on the "always" part on the first sentence. I disagree the "always" part on the second. Without wealth, there is nothing one has to offer. Most non-profit organizations want money, not your good looks. They dont even want your ideas or knowledge. When, I offer my services free, nobody wants it - even though the same service is provided by my company at a very high rate and people buy it. American lives are no more precious than non-Americans. The problem is - non Americans do not treat their citizens lives the precious way. Then why should we? Case in point: The WTC disaster. There were a lot of foreign nationals present in that building. We treated them as if they are our own. But I did not see those nations whose people perished make any effort to engage actively including their media about their people. The human stories etc. If you dont value your own life the same level as we do, we would have a tendency to ignore you. That is human nature. That does not make it right. But that is the way it is. So, the moral of the story is, if you wanted to be treated as equals, act like it...sorry to be so blunt....
Want to explain? I'm an anarcho-communist that should explain. I haven't really read any of your other posts but I'll have a look at them over time. And anyway I didn't just arrive at my conclusions out of nowhere. I've argued and explained this enough times to make me sick. Yes, you treated the people inside those building as your own because they were seen as innocent but as for the rest of the Middle Eastern people in the country, they were harassed and hated after 9/11. Why does it take someones death to bring them to an equal level. Just look at the treatment of Africans in AmeriKKKa for the past 400 years aswell as the Native peoples of the America's. But that money goes towards helping people. If these organisations don't want your ideas, then go found your own one. Every little bit helps. The you'll have to start ignoring me because I don't value my life at all. I would willingly give my life to the cause.
Okay, I have to totally disagree with this whole statement. The middle easterns that were harrassed was an extremely small percentage and it was done by ignorant angry people. That has nothing to do with us Americans. Look at the way the Middle Easterns danced and cheered in the streets as they watched the horrible images of 9/11. What about that? And the treatment of Africans and Natives were the same story. Done out of ignorance. The same kind of ignorance that you have. And Im not calling you ignorant, Im just saying that the one-sided way of your thinking is the same way of thinking as those who harass and kill innocent people. I dont look at and hate all of those in Afganistan because of Osama. Im glad we did some good over there. To look at actions of a small ignorant group and label the whole country - well thats just insane.
OK, this was my fault. I didn't make this clear. Most of time when I refer to AmeriKKKa, I refer to the state, I do agree that maybe I labelled the entire country but I still do see AmeriKKKa as quite racist and ignorant. Yes and do you know why many people from the ME danced on the streets? They really do not condone the senseless violence (some do) that was 9/11 but many are so pissed off and the global domination of AmeriKKKa and the effects that it has on their lives. In Iraq for example, AmeriKKKan led UN Sanctions have caused the deaths of over 500,000 children and another 1,500,000 adults. Also, Israel receives billions of dollars from AmeriKKKa largely which goes into their army and the oppression of the Palestinians. Bush Jr can end that whole situation in three words 'No More Aid'. As for Afghanistan, AmeriKKKa 'doing good over there' is a very debatable issue. Yes, you may have got ridden of one tyranny but many people including myself see the Northern Alliance and George Bush as a tyrant (As an anarcho-communist I see almost all permanent governments tyrants). AmeriKKKan bombings have killed well over the number of people killed in the WTC and have already left the already deteriorating infrastructure of Afghanistan in ruins. And after this, they have only pledged $500m to the country.
