Are they all the same god?

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  1. LiveInFaith Registered Senior Member

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    Had the FSM made birth a cohesive concept of society values, in regulating the way of life of such society, I will believe the FSM also did.
     
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  3. KennyJC Registered Senior Member

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    Be specific. Which parts of religion regulate the way of life on society?

    Also, your theory depends on the amount of followers. Something false with many followers could give birth to a concept of social values... If the FSM hasn't done so, it's because it doesn't have a large amount of followers... yet...
     
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  5. redarmy11 Registered Senior Member

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    The mere fact that some religious beliefs are widespread and their leaders powerful doesn't make the beliefs valid:
     
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  7. Adstar Valued Senior Member

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    skin bag ? Don't you mean scum bag?

    Anyway if it was Gods will that i understand His will for me and for mankind then it is not pretentious at all. If God gives the understanding then no boasting can be done by the one He has given the understanding too. All glory and honour rests with God.


    I am not saying that i understand everything about God, No one understands everything about God. But i can understand what God wants me to understand in relation to His will for us.


    All Praise The Ancient Of Days
     
  8. LiveInFaith Registered Senior Member

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    My theory (or more precise, my belief), religion regulates two types of interactions : vertical (with spiritual supreme being) and horizontal (we call it humanity). If someone brought these two things into a society, and it worked well in regulating their interactions (among them, and with their environments/surrounding natural), how small they could be in amount, then this person could be a prophet, a messenger of God's Will.

    You may have heard the word traditional wisdom, the way ancient tribes maintain their society by maintaining the equilibrium: their people and sources of their life surrounding them. Most of ancient tribes have belief systems (in spritual supreme). And yet, they managed their life in a system what we call now natural conservation.

    In the long run, if there is no scriptures recorded, there could be some destruction / improvements on these values, or misbehaving in their practices. I would say, it's already interfered by political agenda of some vested interest leaders among them.

    FSM, could it bring values for two types of interactions, between men and spiritual supreme being, and between men and naturals, could be considered a messenger of God's Will. Could it arrive at a society which never heard anything about abrahamic religion, hindu, buddha, zoroastrian, etc, will build an FSM religion, but it should not forget to record its scriptures.

    God's Will, in my interpretation : God trusted human to manage this world, so manage it well, don't make ruin on it because of greediness. God blessed human two things : potentials to conserve the world, but also potential to ruin as well. Then God sent It's messenger to teach human how to use and control those potentials.
     
  9. LiveInFaith Registered Senior Member

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    The belief will always be the same, it is the people who choose how to use it, to bring peace or to bring destruction. Nothing is considered to be absolutely good, the coin has always two sides.
     
  10. redarmy11 Registered Senior Member

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    That has nothing to do with it. The point I'm making is that just because a belief is highly influential, with global consequences, doesn't mean there has to be a single iota of truth in it.
     
  11. PsychoticEpisode It is very dry in here today Valued Senior Member

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    You know Adstar, I don't have to be religious to not want nuclear war. Instead of the others accepting or rejecting the truth I would like to see them settle their differences without having to kill you or anyone else for that matter. They don't have to accept your belief, only your right to have one.

    You would rather die, if God wills it, for what you believe and I would rather have you live.

    Personally if I was God, then I would be disappointed in you. You're like a tree in the forest, not going anywhere and can't get out of the way of destruction, be it man or nature. You're playing the lottery, faith vs reason, death vs life, out of your control. I may be blind but I see you in the dark.
     
  12. Adstar Valued Senior Member

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    You will not see them settling their differences without bloodshed and if there is a declared peace it will only be a ploy to gain time to mount a deadly strike. They will kill me and they will kill you if you refuse to submit. But i guess as an athiest who loves his life you will parrot anything they demand that you say. They will never accept my "right" to believe. Because what i believe is blasphemy to them. Blasphemy that is to be destroyed. There are no such things as "rights" anyway. There are only demands, Things you are either willing to kill for or die for. I am prepared to die for my faith and they are prepared to kill for their faith. What are you prepared to kill or die for?


    take time to read this carefully. You Are Not God.


    You don't get it. I am palying an eternal game not a momentry life time game. I cannot be destroyed, i am eternal. Victory in this world is for the eternal loosers. Victory over satan is for the eternal winners.


    You are blind and as such you have no idea you are in darkness and you cannot see that i am in the Light.


    All Praise The Ancient Of Days
     
  13. wsionynw Master Queef Valued Senior Member

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    No I meant skin bag, it's slang for human. I don't think you're a scum bag.

    But HOW can you understand what God wants you to understand in relation to his will? Did he speak to you?
     
  14. comisaru Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, there is only one God. More and more believers in Allah, Jehovah and God find out his name: NO GOD.
     
  15. LiveInFaith Registered Senior Member

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    I'm not sure your point in this ...
    Do you suppose it is still possible? Or do you decisively say none?
     
  16. redarmy11 Registered Senior Member

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    Well, I say none, but wasn't really addressing the topic - just taking issue with your assertion that a religion's sphere of influence somehow reflects it's validity.
     
  17. Adstar Valued Senior Member

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    Yes He did speak to me through the Holy Spirit. But this was after i accepted the Love of the truth. The Holy Spirit guided me in understanding.


    All Praise The Ancient Of Days

    PS: You don't think i am a scum bag? I am socked you are an atheist aren’t you? Maybe its because i have been coming here for too long, i just don't expect anything put arrogance, slander and filth from atheists.
     
  18. wsionynw Master Queef Valued Senior Member

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    Yes I'm an athesit, but I have no problem with people that believe in God. In the same way that I have no problem with people that avoid walking under ladders or throw coins into a well and make a wish.
     
  19. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Shouldn't you be expecting those types of responses if you're going to claim that spirits talk to you?
     
  20. water the sea Registered Senior Member

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    You are socked, yes.


    Well, be ready that there are still things to throw you out of your socks!


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  21. ggazoo Registered Senior Member

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    Religion isn't a reason that the world is in turmoil, it's an excuse. If we all believed in the same thing, then we'd just find something else to fight over.
     
  22. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Yes you are correct; but even the atheists need to blame someone and they don't have the luxury of God to complain to or about.
     
  23. KennyJC Registered Senior Member

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    To some degree, but division caused by religious ideologies would be a big void to fill.
     

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