Has European multiculturalism gone too far?

What you mean my view ? When I read stories like what I came across in the Viking Observer link like how dirty immigrants to Denmark were ? How uncivilized they are , defacating on hospital floors , resposible for all the crimeetc , and the site endorsing the Neo-Nazi Danish peoples party , or the link to LGF where they refer to Palestinians as Palasimians ! Gee I dont know Geoff why I would come to that conclusion that its a racsit site !

Could you give me specific examples of my racism that you have encountered from me on Sciforums please .

Again I will hold you too this I want examples of quotes or links I provided that endorse your accusation please .

Which links ? Show me .

What sites ? Show me .

Again accusing me of this charge remember the last time you accused me of this Geoff ?

You couldnt substantiate the charge so you back down .

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If I am white how is that racist ?

 

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Because you attacked and insulted a whole group of people solely based on there race.

Your self hatred is not a excuse for your racist behaviour.

 

What ???? It was you , yourself who asked me :

And my answer was :

Yeah whatever

 

Now there's a lesson for you D'ster ... use generalisations, get generalisations back.

I'd leave out the 'we' because I haven't personally screwed anyone over ... but it's certainly true that those doing the screwing over were mostly pinkies, and those on the receiving end mostly brown.

...any entendres in that sentence were not intended.

 

Who's "they" at LGF? The posters? So because you post Jew-hatred I should label this an anti-Semitic site? I don't read the Viking Observer and I've never heard of this defaecation thing, but I'll bow to your greater experience in spreading bullshit. Of course, would those again be the comments of the posters or the host? And how should I interpret your bigotry then?

Geoff

 

So, If you were not "white" you would be a racist

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I post Jew hatred show me where as I have already asked you .

In other words your distancing yourself from these sites , in fact these are stories which are posted by the sites owners .

 

Yes, the people living around the Mediterranean were for the most part, the fist great civilizations. Especially those living near the Nile - for obvious reasons. But what is your point?

The Church became powerful and Europe entered the Dark Ages. There was also a few plagues and a minor glacial event that screwed the place up as well. The Church lost power and Europe entered the Renaissance.

I'd say it was the removal of an imaginary sky-daddy that probably helped the Europeans pull their collective figures out.

Actually the most important of all “resources” attained by the Europeans was sugar. It was as important as oil is today.

Anyway, this doesn’t explain present day Asian and for the same reasons is not why Europeans became successful.

Just think about history. People have been conquering/colonizing other people for millennia. Start with the Egyptians. The conquest of the Nubians was a HUGE source of resources. Now progress through the conquests made by the Persians, the Greeks, the Macedonians, the Romans, the Germans, the Arabs, the Mongolians, the Chinese, etcetera.

None of these resource-garnishing-conquests gave the common person the standard of living enjoyed by our dogs. So it is not conquest and looting that creates prosperity. It’s getting rid of monarchs, banning slavery, removing religion as far from government as possible, creating governments responsive to the wishes of the people and most importantly giving people the right to own land.

If it were just conquests and resource grabbing then we would have had the standard of living enjoyed today – enjoyed by the Persians, the Greeks, the Macedonians, the Romans, the Germans, the Arabs, the Mongolians and the Chinese. Which was not the case.

 

Anyway, what is “culture” and what is “multiculturalism”?

Should a Muslim living in the West be allowed to take 4 wives to accommodate for their cultural norms from the ME? Is that the providence of "multiculturalism"?

What about Aboriginal culture where a 12 year old girl is promised to a 60 year old Aboriginal elder – against her wishes. The act of promise marriage is certainly a part of Aboriginal culture and has been for millennia.

Should that be allowed to continue because multiculturealism? it is a part of Aboriginal culture after all.

Michael

 

- Why do I remember having answered these questions before? :\

Anyway: "multiculturalism" = several cultures somehow living side by side without somehow melting together.

- This is a dialogue. That means that you have to see what I write in the context with what I replied to. In this case: "Just when and where were these so called "brown" peoples countries a paradigm of prosperity? They were not."

I replied with what little I know. Unfortunately I really have no clue about the history of Africa South of Sahara, nor really about pre-colonial America.

- Of course, there were both plagues and powerful churches at the same times in North Africa as well. In fact, didn't the black death come by boat from Egypt?

- Ah, so by "prosperity" you actually mean more than just a high gnp and a lively economy? You mean a sort of equality is also part of your definition?

I would say that in Europe (and the US, I guess) this is more because of a distancing from traditions than religion per se. After all, christianity (and islam, maybe especially islam) isn't really about setting up an elite and stratifying as much as (pre-)christian societies have been.

 

On the forum in which you accused Judaic teaching of being racism. Since that accusation requires that Jewish people be a "race" and since you post more than your fair share of anti-Jewish garbage, you're an anti-Jewish racist.

Wow, another zero-evidence runner. Typical. Which stories? Where?

Geoff

 

Judaic teachings are just that, teachings, which requires a group following. All that means is that they're a group of people who follow certain teachings, not that they're their own race. Just because Judaism may teach racist things, it doesn't mean they're a race, just a group.

The KKK doesn't consist of only white people, yet they're racist. Nor does Judaism have only Jewish people that follow their teachings. Both are just groups. One group is primarily from Israel and the other group is primarily from the American South, neither are a race.

- N

 

What an absolute Arsehole ! As you well know I was directly requested by Zephyr who is a South African Jew to author a thraed precisely about the term chosen people . That fact was consistently pointed out to you and acknowledged by Zephyr himself , now I would like clear evidence from where I have posted Anti-Jewish hate material which attacks Jews

Gee I have already on this very thread twice listed the links and named the stories from your very own source , all he has to do is visit those links .Fact is Geoff you have been caught out posting racist shit .

 

Forgetting whether they're a race or not - accusing a religion of supporting racism when it doesn't is certainly religious intolerance.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/

 

What a total idiot! If you want to accuse Judaism as being racist, you acknowledge Jews as being a race. It's staggering that you think you can disguise your bigotry.

Where? When? More Foleyan crap; slander, actually.

Geoff

 

here: http://sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=54029&highlight=brian foley
1. "I picked that title Purimfest 2006 because that’s what Jews celebrate saying they had to pre-emptively murder 75000 innocent human beings to protect themselves from an unfounded threat." (completely ignorant and biased)

2. "You mean more accurately Jews were the perpertrators of an act of mass murder against an innocent people."

3. "purim , passover , delicatessen hey whatever ."

and here:
1. "Ah Purim is a celebration of mass murder ."

and in numerous other places:
"Fuck the Holocaust it happened in the 20th century"
"As opposed to Israels waiting for the messiah to come and annihilate the gentile nations "
"The Chosen People believe a Jewish Messiah will arise in Israel and he will smite Israels Gentile enemies ." (wildly inaccurate)
"And those of us Gentiles who refuse this servitude to the Chosen People will be smitten down and condemned to eternally damnation ." (see above example again)
"The Jews see themselves as a race and a chosen people as well . The passages I quoted read like a supremacist utopia ?" (again, showing absolute ignorance of jews, and intentionally spreading mis-information)
"The Jews believe only they have a special relationship with God which excludes Gentiles . And the Jews believe their God ends up making these gentiles the slaves ,whilst the Jews rule the world and all the worlds races and nations from their capital in Jerusalem ." (again, intentionally misleading)



if you want some more examples, i would be glad to give them. this post ended because it is time for me to go grocery shopping.

 

Thanks Devil. It's good to get some perspective on Foleyitis.

Geoff

 

im excited for when he ignores this, and then claims victory over an internet conversation. such a winner!!