possibility of non-fueled power generator

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  1. SISGroup Registered Senior Member

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  3. kmguru Staff Member

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    I plan to generate my household power from two mathbooks. You need two because you need to produced dc voltage of about 2.4 volts. The solid materials in the book produce these equations - so why not put them to good use....

    As soon as my wife gives me the money to build this machine....

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  5. rde Eukaryotic specimen Registered Senior Member

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    This'd be a great idea if it weren't for those pesky laws of thermodynamics.
     
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  7. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Is it possible to build a power generator without fuels like one of our member try to do?

    No. These crackpots have no idea what they're talking about.
     
  8. daktaklakpak God is irrelevant! Registered Senior Member

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    But they sure know how to ask for money...

    It's worse than dot com. At least dot com has some PC and software running it.

    I am also sorry for the web site that didn't get any pop up on my screen. My "Ad Mucher" filltered it all.
     
  9. SISGroup Registered Senior Member

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    We have to admit that language is our big problem, since we are not using english in our daily conversation. Our lecturer agree to edit our text to right english.
    BTW, we may consider these paragraphs bellow, cause we are 'walking' in same direction.....

    There are at least two reasons why chaos is so useful. First, the behavior of a chaotic system is a collection of many orderly behaviors, none of which dominates under ordinary circumstances. In recent years, investigators have shown that by perturbing a chaotic system in the right way, they can encourage the system to follow one of its many regular behaviors. Chaotic systems are unusually flexible because they can rapidly switch among many different behaviors.


    Second, although chaos is unpredictable, it is deterministic. If two nearly identical chaotic systems of the appropriate type are impelled, or driven, by the same signal, they will produce the same output, even though no one can say what that output might be see "The Amateur Scientist," page 101].This phenomenon has already made possible a variety of interesting technologies for communications.


    For more than a century, chaos has been studied almost exclusively by a few theoreticians, and they must be credited for developing some of the concepts on which all applications are based. Most natural systems are nonlinear : a change in behavior is not a simple function of a change in conditions. Chaos is one type of nonlinear behavior.The distinguishing feature of chaotic systems is that they exhibit a sensitivity to initial conditions. To be more specific, if two chaotic systems that are nearly identical are in two slightly different states, they will rapidly evolve toward very different states.



    taken from http://www.fortunecity.com/emachines/e11/86/mastring.html
     
  10. kmguru Staff Member

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    I use chaotic systems methodology to run my business. What I have found that cognitive bias is a major impediment in calculating the external attractors. The flexibility only works if they are process items such as in manufacturing or oil drilling etc. Some perturbations are successful such as 911 actions. Other perturbations that produced just the opposite effect include actions taken by Providian Financial and Stage Stores. In the later, cognitive bias played a major role in the assumption of intermediate results. GIGO

    (we may be off topic here...)
     
  11. SISGroup Registered Senior Member

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    Trully, I cannot understand all your words. But, I just guess that you have no evidences about flexibility of chaos, especially in mechanical system.
    Equations of mechanical system of Newton's physic some time cannot be solved. Engineer usually use approximation.
    In solving the equation of pendulum swing movement, engineer use asumption that sinus a = a, and the solution equation is not an elementary equation.(Advanced Engineering Mathematic (John Wiley an Sons, Inc. 1993) Written by Erwin Kreyszig, Professor of Mathematic, Ohio State University, Columbus.)Pendulum swing is a non-linear system.
    And we just try to meet non-linearity with linearity, so it can be synchronized to produce a feed-back system, or autonomous system.

    Wanna see another "crazy idea"?http://www.fortunecity.com/emachines/e11/86/antigrav.html

    I hope, may crazy ideas will come, and the world will be better
     
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  12. ChristCrusher Registered Senior Member

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    that is some of the most inane drivel i have ever read.
     
  13. Lesion42 Deranged Hermit Registered Senior Member

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    You can't get energy for nothing. That's just the way it is. However, we have come up with a way to get maintenence-free energy from sea water and ocean mud. No kidding. Really. It's just not practical for generating massive quantities of energy that would be used for houses, etc. It's currently used for powering deep-sea observation buoys or sumpin' like that.
     
  14. SISGroup Registered Senior Member

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    we have to follow a long path to get this machine. We began by investigate the resources from sea, especially wave energy, for electric generator purpose in 1999. We calculate many design, but it was not satisfied us. until early 2002, we found this mechanism.
    We also learn about reaction of sea water that creates electricity. Keep develop your idea
     
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