Evil Indian/Hindu Caste System

Discussion in 'Eastern Philosophy' started by duendy, Apr 15, 2006.

  1. Student of Yoga Registered Senior Member

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    I am a believer in Mahatma Gandhi. Therefore i am obviously the solution. I have joined an organisation called RSS (Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh) in which all hindus (irrespective of caste) are allowed to join. We generally believe in the inspiration of new generation heroes and we wish to make hindus more knowledgable about hinduism and bring unity within hindus of different sects. This can hardly work if members of different castes refuse to work together in friendship and harmony, can it now?
     
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  5. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    Thanks for the link. It does give some compelling scriptural evidence for what you say, but interestingly, it states that the caste system was not defined anywhere in the Vedas, so it must be a later development within Hinduism.

    One text I have read which does uphold the strict hereditary nature of caste division is the Laws of Manu.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manusmriti
     
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    "Thanks for the link. It does give some compelling scriptural evidence for what you say, but interestingly, it states that the caste system was not defined anywhere in the Vedas, so it must be a later development within Hinduism."

    Exactly! Thats what i have been trying to say. Originally the caste system was a simple way in which society is run, just like in today's society. The reason for actually having a caste system (even though in those days it was nothing more than the way society runs) is that Hindus believe in a concept called karma-yoga.

    "If any man does his duty in society, without critisising others and without expecting reward from others but doing it because he wishes well for humanity and generally wants to help others, it is equivelent to the worship of the Lord (Bhagavad gita)"

    The same is mentioned in the Vedas as well. However, one may ask "what is one's duty" and to clarify that the caste system was introduced (varnashramdharma). In other words a brahmin's duty is to guide the other castes on the spiritual path, a kshatriya's duty is to protect the people of the kingdom from hostile invaders, a vaishya's duty is to provide services and trading facilities (i.e. supermarkets, hospitals etc) for the people, and the duty of the shudras is to work to create a better environment and place for everyone's benefit. This is what the caste system was created out of.
     
  8. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    Personally, I believe that most traditional societies have caste systems, and they are really defined by the spectrum of human qualities.

    In Indian philosophy there are said to be three levels - sattva, rajas and tamas. When I first read about this through Sri Aurobindo I found that it matched perfectly with my own observations of people.

    In a way, it is somewhat hereditary because according to Indian ideas of reincarnation the soul wil gravitate towards like minded parents. But of course there are always many exceptions.

    I believe that caste systems are only marginally related to the organization of 'duties'...I think it has more to do with segregation and such systems are always created from the top down.
     
  9. Rick Valued Senior Member

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    bwahahahahaha@C7


    Rick
     
  10. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    You do realize the whole "Caste sytem" thing ended, uh, a while ago, right? It's technically illegal due to the constitution of the Republic of India. It still exists in surrounding countries, but not India anymore.
     
  11. I don't know It's the pun police, run! Registered Senior Member

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    The fact that it's illegal doesn't mean it doesn't exist...
     
  12. Rick Valued Senior Member

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    I dont know : Go find pieces of your damm brain and listen : stop smoking, there's NO CASTE DISCRIMINATION IN INDIA,
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    Duendy :

    are you from South or something? get a life doood


    gaah
    Rick
     
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  14. I don't know It's the pun police, run! Registered Senior Member

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    - Of course there is! The caste system in India is believed to be nearly 3000 years old - these things don't disappear overnight just because it's made illegal

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    Just look around and do some reading, I think ethnographies and articles about the caste system are pumped out pretty regularly

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  15. Muslim Immortal Valued Senior Member

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    Are you sure about that? last time I checked Pakis didn't bath in rivers and turned them into the worlds biggest sewer (Ganges) the Pakis also don't spear dung and imbibe the piss of the cow and claim it to be the Lord goddess.

    Have you ever really read the Vedas, Upanishads, Smritis and Puranas (Ramayanaand Mahabharata)?

    Your answer most probably will be: "No!" The Hindu mentality is such, that it usually accepts anything without questioning its authenticity. The reason is that for several centuries, the higher cast Brahmin has taught that the low caste Hindu has no right to question any discrepancies in Hindu beliefs and mythology. Therefore, to question anything or to seek answers concerning religious questions is not encouraged.

    GODDESS PANCHALI
    This goddess was married to five brothers. Which one would become the legitimate father of his child should she have one? Dr Charles says that instances of incest are common in Hindu scriptures.

    Should you read the Ramayan you will come to the conclusion that it cannot be a God revealed book. On the other hand you will find materials of pornography, incest, lies, cheating etc.

    The average Hindu is kept in the dark and in reality, he is ignorant on matters pertaining to Hindu beliefs. If he really reads the Ramayana, we challenge, he will be ashamed of his religion and himself for being a Hindu.

    The Vedas say that the cow is holy and should be worshipped. These Brahmins also claim that cow dung ash has medicinal value. Samples sent to a leading test laboratory in West Germany have proved this to be untrue. Even today ignorant Hindus smear their homes with cow dung.

    In India people are dying of hunger. Why are these low caste Hindus prohibited from eating beef? In India cow meat is cheaper than other available meats. Instead of these Brahmins taking care of the low caste peoples of India they are doing their best to save their "holy" cows. According to Valmith's Ramayana, God Rama "ATE" meat. Why then have these Brahmins given up beef-eating?

    One erstwhile Prime Minister, Morarji Desai (Brahmin), boasted that he was drinking eight ounces of his own urine daily (pure and fresh!) in the morning in accordance with the Vedas claim that urine has medicinal value. With the same claim today the Brahmins/RSS are drinking cow's urine as if it is a DAILY TONIC. No scientists have ever claimed that urine has any medicinal value. On the contrary it is well known fact that urine is an unwanted organic substance that the human body needs to discharge. [Muslim's Note: This is just plain common sense!!!]

    Hindus are dumping half-cremated bodies, and the ashes of these corpses, into River Ganges for their salvation as ordered by the Hindu scriptures. In other words, the Holy Ganges water is a human soup! This has made the Ganges water polluted and a breeding ground for numerous diseases.

    Question: Is there anything similar to this water in America?

    Answer: Yes there is! It is called raw sewage. And common sense tells one that sewage is not to be swam in, drank, nor utilized in sacred activity.


    HINDU WOMAN
    The Hindu woman has no right to divorce her husband.
    She has no property or inheritance rights.
    Choice of partner is limited because she can only marry within her own
    caste; moreover her horoscope must match that of the intending bridegroom/family.
    The family of the girl has to offer an enormous dowry to the bridegroom/family.
    If her husband dies she should commit Sati (being cremated with her dead husband). Since today's law forbids Sati, society mainly punishes her in other "holy" ways (see below).
    She can never remarry.
    The widow is considered to be a curse and must not be seen in public. She cannot wear jewelry or colorful clothes. (She should not even take part in her children's marriage!)
    Child and infant marriage is encouraged.

    THE MUSLIM WOMAN
    The Muslim lady has the same right as the Muslim man in all matters, including divorce.
    She enjoys property and inheritance rights. (Which other religion grants women these rights?). She can also conduct her own separate business.
    She can marry any Muslim of her choice. If her parents choose a partner for her, her consent has to be taken.
    The dowry in Islam is a gift from a husband to his wife (not the other way round as is practiced by some ignoramuses).
    A Muslim widow is encouraged to remarry, and her remarriage is the responsibility of the Muslim society.
    Mixed marriage is encouraged and is a means to prevent racism creeping into society.
    A Muslim mother is given the highest form of respect.​
    So you, you little cow worshiper don't talk crap about Pakistan, the Pakis are 10000000 X times better then Hindus!
     
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    I've actually seen that on TV. Sandlewood trees are becoming scarce and expensive so some people cannot be completely burned and their bodies are cast into the river anyway.

    Useless fact: Jerry Garcia's ashes were scattered into the Ganges by his friend and bandmate Bob Weir.
     
  17. Muslim Immortal Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah this is how stupid, these people are. You know what they say? the river cleans itself. lol
     
  18. Rick Valued Senior Member

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    It is obvious that Muslim is a pakistani, and he doesnt like his country (anyways pakistan is a muslim state) or religion being ridiculed, i am an indian, and i know all the facts he states are bull shitting and indian women have no rights? bwahahahaah you are t3h gay, You fuckers ask women to close their faces and shit so that they dont ssay or do anything, you are fucking supporters of terrorism in kashmir and oh yea, hindus cremation, you are describing your fucking frustation here biatch, furthermore dont fucking try and mess with indians;

    GO FUCK A GOAT.
    PERIOD.
    Rick
     
  19. Muslim Immortal Valued Senior Member

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    I like eating your god. lol hmmmmmm I love beef!

    Typical dumb ass Hindu couldn't type anything original so just started talking out of his ass.

    Hay don't you gotta go and burn some woman or something?

    And by the way, Muslims ruled India for 1000 years The Taj Mahal was build my a Muslim for the love and affection for his wife. Unlike you guys who burn your woman, Muslims show love and and peace.


    Hindus such as yourself always criticize, condemn and mock other Religions, and they actually have the nerve to try to mock Al-Islam. Their criticism and mocking is unreasonable and unacceptable. In his autobiography, Dr. Charles, an American scholar says that it is very simple to define a Hindu. He says a Hindu means "one who believes anything and everything if said in the name of God and shall never question its authenticity". The Brahmins claim that Lord Rama is incarnated (came in human form) to study and understand the difficulties of mankind. Is it really necessary for a god to incarnate Himself? Can He not understand His creation? Why should God become a donkey or a cockroach in order to understand the sufferings of these creatures?

    Rama called his father "a FOOL, an IDIOT" (Ayodhya Kandam, 53 rd Chapter). The reader should bear in mind that in Al-Islam, it is a very serious sin to disrespect one's parents.

    Lord Krishna was very fond of looking at naked young girls. Once upon a time Krishna, in order to get a full view of some bathing virgin girls, went to the extent of hiding their clothes on the tree tops just to get a panaromic view. Does behave divine immunity from looking at a naked woman?

    The Gita, a Holy Book of the Hindus, quotes that when these bathing low caste girls begged for the return of their clothes. Lord Krishna demanded that they come out of the water with their hands raised instead of covering their bodies. Oh my innocent Hindu brethren! Can this action be attributed to a god? Is this god capable of indulging in such ungodly acts? Surely, if their deity is "divine," then it should be able to easily restrain its passions.
     
  20. Rick Valued Senior Member

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    ok, so yea, i fucked ur mom, then?

    whteva kid, have fun back in your asylum
     
  21. UltiTruth In pursuit... Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, I hear they don't bathe much and rely on the perfume industry.

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    You say that?!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Ha ha ha Muslim, how can you be so dumb? This is not a thread to save the muslim woman. So don't expose yourself naked voluntarily!
    Again, India and Pakistan are countries; Hinduism and Islam are religions. You need to understand what you talk.

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    I can see hinduism is too much to take for your little head. Just ignore it and rest in peace.

    P.S.: This isn't a thread on Hinduism vs. Islam either. Please do your copy-paste in other threads. I understand it isn't easy for you to distinguish threads, but please try. Thanks.
     
  22. Muslim Immortal Valued Senior Member

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    Don't post shit about Muslims and call names at Pakistanis. Then others wouldn't do that to you - fucking Karma ini? lol
     
  23. UltiTruth In pursuit... Registered Senior Member

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    Hitting at bad is good Karma!

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    BTW, no shit has been posted about Muslims here- we have good muslim friends too.

    You are exposing yourself and getting yourself into shit, neck deep.
    Thanks.
     

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