Does God Believe in Einstein?

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  1. Provita Provita Registered Senior Member

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    Then why even argue it with such passion? Who the hell cares? Does this somehow prove God if he did or disprove if he didnt? I seriously doubt it ... he's a scientist... not a theologian... you might as well say "Einstein said flowers can be planted in oil and they will grow" ... altho this is obviously untrue, just becuase he said it doesnt mean anything... he isnt a gardener
     
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  3. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Hey, it's a forum, what else is one to do?
     
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  5. Provita Provita Registered Senior Member

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    Oh yeah, forgot!!
     
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  7. Dravyga ... Registered Senior Member

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    Just some theist trying to take advantage of einstein's fame and some atheist who try to correct the lies.
     
  8. Medicine*Woman Jesus: Mythstory--Not History! Valued Senior Member

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    M*W: Einstein may have existed at a period of time in history, but he no longer exists.
     
  9. The problem is that the lies have been spread by Einstein himself. Everything we know about Einstein implies he was an atheist, but somehow he didn't seem comfortable with his position and kept pretending he had some sort of religion.

    Of course the problem with Einstein is that he had religious feelings but did not know what to do with them. He may have been very smart, but he was not profound.
     
  10. Diogenes' Dog Subvert the dominant cliche... Registered Senior Member

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    I agree with you there Confutatis. His views on religion were complex and almost self-contradictory. I think he had a felt religious sense of a "rationality" behind the universe, but despised formal religion - especially a personal God. He was not a theist, and he was not an atheist. I don't see him as an agnostic either. I'm sure he would have delighted in not being easy to place.

    I think that is a very good question Provita. I think my own interest in him is that he illustrates someone who had strong religious feelings, but rejected any metaphysical considerations. His was almost a state of proto-religion.

    "To see a world in a grain of sand, and a heaven in a wild flower,
    Hold infinity in the palm of your hand, and eternity in an hour." Blake
     
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  11. c7ityi_ Registered Senior Member

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    Atheists consider Einstein a God, so if Einstein believed in God, he wasn't a God, and Atheists must convert to Christianity.
     
  12. Medicine*Woman Jesus: Mythstory--Not History! Valued Senior Member

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    M*W: I'm an atheist. I do not consider Einstein to be a god. I don't care if Einstein believed in a god or not. It is impossible for an atheist to convert to christianity. Anyone who says they did is lying.
     
  13. Diogenes' Dog Subvert the dominant cliche... Registered Senior Member

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    LOL, nice one c7ityi!

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    I think the evidence is against you M*W! William James, writing as a psychologist in Varieties of Religious Experience describes and summarises the conversion experiences of many different people. Quote from Lecture X...

    C.S. Lewis was a prominent former atheist - in "Surprised by Joy" (from Wikipedia)...

    Whatever you believe they are, conversion experiences happen. They can go both ways!
     
  14. thedevilsreject Registered Senior Abuser Registered Senior Member

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    yes there are lots of stories of people converting M*W
     
  15. Atheists love this kind of reasoning. They accept some notion as true, and when confronted with evidence to the contrary, instead of rejecting the notion they reject the evidence. And then they call themselves objective, pat each other on the back for being so smart, and go on mocking everyone else for believing what they see.

    All I can do is shake my head. And take cheap shots at them, for the fun of it

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  16. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Or, more precisely, he had to tippy-toe on pins and needles around delusional theists so as not to damage their fragile egos.
     
  17. Medicine*Woman Jesus: Mythstory--Not History! Valued Senior Member

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    M*W: But there are fewer atheists converting backwards than forwards! An atheist cannot go back. It's just an impossibility.
     
  18. Diogenes' Dog Subvert the dominant cliche... Registered Senior Member

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    Why is it impossible M*W? Maybe you feel it's impossible for you, but you are not everybody. People have very different life stories.

    Pots and kettles spring suddenly to mind...

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  19. Believer or skeptic, everyone is grasping at straws to keep their philosophies intact. How pathetic.

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  20. geeser Atheism:is non-prophet making Valued Senior Member

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    an atheist convert to theism is impossible, that's asking us to believe they've gone from the rational to the irrational, this can and does only, happen when someone has had some kind of physical or mental trauma, or is a drug user.
    atheism is what you are, before the religious indoctrination as child( the child abuse), the mind virus, has taken hold, whether, you've either rediscovered common sense, or had been lucky and never recieved the virus, as an adult you would never become religious, unless your druged up or have brain damage.
    it's just not feasible.
     
  21. Godless Objectivist Mind Registered Senior Member

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    I'm not grasping at strwas, my stance is solid. That's why I chose the name GODLESS!.

    Energy is greater than god, without energy god is non existent, with out energy god wouldn't be able to create a damn thing, without energy god can't survie if "it" exists. Energy supersedes any notion that a theist, has about god. Energy is supreme ruller of all.

    Godless
     
  22. Godless Objectivist Mind Registered Senior Member

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    Not always the case Geeser. I was a drug user and became atheist.

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    I find that every one perhaps has a turning point. For an elder atheist, his turning point may be old age, and fear of dying. So he may turn irrational, to suppress his fears, and believe that he may continue if he just believes in a supreme diety. Who knows fear is one of the strongest emotions there is, and it makes many do irratianol behaviors.

    Godless
     
  23. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Not surprisingly, there wasn't much in regards to atheist deconversion aside from what I found on the link below - Christian websites had nothing, and you'd expect, at the very least, they'd headline a story like that. I'm skeptical, but not so much to state it isn't possible for atheists to convert to Christianity, religiously, faithfully, irrationally... it's just highly improbable and specious at best.

    http://humanknowledge.net/Philosophy/Metaphysics/Theology/AtheistDeconversion.html

    Now, if only you could take a shot as well as you volley them, you'd actually be fun.
     

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