Forgive me if I sound naive, but I still haven't heard any evidence tieing the 9/11 bombing to Osama Bin Laden. I've been watching and reading the news and I've heard about one of the terrorists contacting a high-level Iraqi official in Germany about six months prior to 9/11, but I haven't heard of any connections to OBL. I don't believe the CIA tape of OBL is real, so if anyone has any other info tieing the terrosists to OBL, please share. Also, what ever happened to the investigation of the unusual stock trades just before 9/11??? I've heard that an ex-CIA director was involved, but I still haven't heard the "official" story from the government. Was there an investigation at all??? I just find it so wierd that everyone is saying OBL was responsible, but I haven't heard any evidence. Did I miss something??? Tom
Xev, You actually believed that was really him on the CIA tape??? Didn't you notice that the face of OBL on the CIA tape didn't match his face on previous tapes?? My friend told me that the reason OBL looked different on the CIA tape was because he got plastic surgery. I thought that he might be correct until a new tape of OBL came out where he looked like he did before the CIA tape. Does that mean he had plastic surgery twice??? Is there a reason for me to trust the CIA?? They would never lie to me, right?? Tom
It did. He looked a bit more emaciated - fuck, having the US bombing the shit out of your caves is stressfull. Plus I hear that his goat died.
Xev, His nose didn't match. I would understand if his cheeks were bloated, but a persons nose doesn't change based on how they feel. Tom
Are we trying to prove that bin Laden is not guilty? The fact remains that if he wasn't responsible for this one he was responsible for the atack on our warship in Yemen. I think that is justification for killing the poor bastard.
A couple of related links: WTC Attacks Stuff CNN Special - War Against terror Embassy Bombings WTC Stuff McCarthyism Watch A news story Now keep mind that the sources I've linked to are mostly USA sources.
Robeson, "The fact remains that if he wasn't responsible for this one he was responsible for the atack on our warship in Yemen. I think that is justification for killing the poor bastard." I agree with you, but shouldn't we be focusing our attention on attempting to find the people responsible for the 9/11 bombing?? Tom
Adam, Thanks for the links. The CNN link has an investigative timeline of events that occured after the 9/11 bombing, which was very informative. After reading it for about an hour, I found out that all the evidence linking Bin Laden to the hijackers was from the various intelligence agencies. I still haven't found any "unbiased" independent evidence indicating a connection, but I'll keep looking. Tom
You may try Pakistan news (they are in the Internet) or Afghanistan news. If the OBL is not responsible, we have heard from China by now. Sometimes, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is a duck...no conspiracies here.
kmguru, I would think that China would want to get rid of Bin Laden regardless of whether he was responsible for 9/11 or not. Tom
Osama I think was more or less the scapegoat for the 9/11 stuff. In the hours after the whole thing after I saw quotes on the CNN newsticker with various senators saying 'I have no doubt in my mind that this was Osama bin Laden.' Plus he denied ever doing it in the first couple of months anyway. Did he just have a change of heart? Did I miss something? Although it would be nice to bring Bin Laden to justice the fact that there is even a small chance that the real culprit is out there is scary. I don't think the bastard's a genius but I think he has what it takes to do another major terrorist attack, whoever he is.
Didn't OBL worked for CIA during Soviet occupation of Afghanistan? If that is true, why would CIA turned on one of their own unless he turned against? CIA and Mafia have one thing in common - they go after people who are in the same business...just a thought...
http://www.ctnow.com/news/local/hc-alqaeda0430.artapr30.story?coll=hc-headlines-local It appears as if the FBI doesn't have any evidence, either.Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Tom
There was another tape released a few weeks ago, made after 9/11 that OBL said he was pleased and honored to take part in the attacks. The media was in an uproar over the Blake arrest and the Bush admin. kept it hush-hush, not wanting to draw attention to the fact they still haven't got him.
I think CIA goes after who ever comes in their way. Doesn't matter right or wrong. Just like all other inteligence agencies of the world, Either it could be Mossad, KGB, or ISI. And yes CIA turned to their own, I don't see why not. It is just another tool for world domination. Saddam was also our man, but when people, individual or countries collides with us, or say no to us then you know what happens to them right?Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Don't you think it is possible that some of his videos were fake? Produced in Hollywood? After all we brought kennedy in Forest Gump. Also if you remember the movie Wag the Dog. That explains a lot too, that to what limits countries and goverment can go. Just my thoughts.Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Was he guilty? he was of some offences, certainly, of 9/11? i doubt it. sitting in a cave with a camel for a friend, not the easiest path to destruction of WTC, for which u need a LOT of inside info, i.e. to say the least where all the other planes where, and how come the control towers never misssed the buggers? i saw the tape with Ozzi gloating about 9/11 "good muslims did it he said" "i knew about the attack" he said. gloating is not a crime, however heinious his behaviour may be. he never admitted it. why not, even when he was getting the shit bombed out of him. he "knew" it was going to happen. i too have seen no proof he did it. he may be a terrible man, he has the blood of many on him. but he may well not be the man/men who perpetrated 9/11. its sad. americans have so much info they can access, but dont, they get so easily waylaid by "its a matter of national security". well, guess what, its national security which is being destroyed by the refusal of sharing information with the people. and guess what, the american people, who only woke up to their governments policies after 9/11, are perpetuating the crime. by remaining ignorant yet again, they are creating a situation where the cornered weak will strike out again. or be made to. wake up to the inequities of the world, of the impovrished, or they will wake you themselves. and then dont cry "crusade", dont try and weed out the terrror you have helped create. It is ofter out of terror does terrorism arises.
