Hitler's crucial mistakes during ww2

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  1. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Didn't the Germans go after the radar sites at one point? That might have been a better play; that and concentrating on industry.

    Hitler's intelligence arm didn't help much either in identifying targets; I understand their performance was like something out of Monty bloody Python.

    "Ooooh, are you off to do your 'coastal installation sightseeing' today, Mr. Bimmler? I understand the daffodils around the concrete pylons are lovely this season."

    "Ya, ya, zey are much like mein Arborium back home in Berl - ach! I am meaning Danzi - Ach! I mean Munche - nein, am not having flowers, am wwvvindow-vasher from Brantford!"

    Geoff
     
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  3. thedevilsreject Registered Senior Abuser Registered Senior Member

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    his biggest mistake was not to listen to his generals and deciding to do things his way effectivly signing every one of his troops to death every time he launched and offensive e.g stalingrad where his generals advised him to pull out as the troops were week and being overpowered yet he ordered them to stay and fight on. yet these very troops could have been pulled back to berlin rested and then have been sent back out onto the streets of berlin to help fight
     
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  5. te jen Registered Senior Member

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    Hitler should have declared a unilateral truce with Britain after Dunkirk. he should have avoided contact where possible, and absolutely not have undertaken the Battle of Britain.

    I think there was enough of a nascent fascist element in Britain that if Hitler had been patient Britain would have rotted from within. America probably would have stayed out if Britain wasn't under immediate threat, and if Hitler had maintained a defensive posture against Stalin he could have consolidated his hold on Europe and then gone after the Middle East's oil reserves. By 2006 the Third Reich could have been a superpower.
     
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  7. perplexity Banned Banned

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    Radar during the Second World war consisted of tall pylons, radio masts which were difficult to see from any distance, let alone the chance to hit with bombs, so the expectation of success was low, not to mention the chance to know if damage was done or not.

    c.f. http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/classic/A612334

    After the two successful attacks on Ventnor Chain Home Radar Station, Germany never again attacked any of Britain's radar sites, a fact which puzzled British officers for some time. The reason behind this has since been discovered.

    German Intelligence assumed that no serious damage had been done to any of the radar stations that were attacked. This was based upon reports from General Martini who had continued to detect transmissions from the Ventnor area after both attacks, which they assumed meant that the station was still operational. Intelligence assumed that the radar operations room and the equipment were deep underground, and that further heavy bombing would be wasted.

    No German agent during the war learnt much about the British radar system. Had they done, German Intelligence would have discovered that the power and receiving rooms were extremely vulnerable to attack, and that the raid on Ventnor had been a devastating success. It is certain that had German intelligence discovered the full effect of their attack on Ventnor, more radar stations would have been increasingly bombed, with devastating consequences.


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  8. daktaklakpak God is irrelevant! Registered Senior Member

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    One strategic mistake Hilter made was to modify the Me262 from pure fighter to a fighter bomber. The delay made these advance jets too little too late.
     
  9. houseofknowledge house of knowledge Registered Senior Member

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  10. Xylene Valued Senior Member

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    One big mistake A.H. made was to declare war on the United States immediately after Pearl Harbour. If he had not done that, it could be that America would have concentrated all their attention on a war in the Pacific. They would have taken a lot longer to get involved in a European war, where they would've been fighting other white people instead of asians. It's possible that the European war could have lasted into the 1950's if America had not become involved in Europe, or delayed doing so.
     
  11. john smith Tongue in cheek Registered Senior Member

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    My God! A compliment!!
     
  12. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    german jet technology came too late in the war to have any effect on the outcome
     
  13. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    hitler doing this makes absolutly no sense
    the last thing hitler wanted was war with america until operations were complete in europe

    but you do raise a good point
    it has been estimated that if america stayed out of the war for another year and a half that the situation would be very different indeed
     
  14. The Devil Inside Banned Banned

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    in fact, hitler publicly tried to court the american government to side with the nazis before the war began.

    MUCH different situation, had that happened im sure.
     
  15. thedevilsreject Registered Senior Abuser Registered Senior Member

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    one big mistake by hitler was not to kill himself earlier
     
  16. kriminal99 Registered Senior Member

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    Quoted for truth imo... Talk about propaganda all you want, but the allies didn't burn large quantities of jews at a time.
     
  17. draqon Banned Banned

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    Hitler's mistake is that he did not develop a nuclear bomb fast enough to be used in the war. All he had to do is combine people in one place and nuke them.

    Another Hitler's mistake is that he fought with too many powerful countries with too small of a population, same thing as the F-22's today...yeah they are powerfull and efficient in battle...but their cost means you can have only few of them...whereas the opponent has almost as good Su and Mig planes and such in large quantities...
     
  18. River Ape Valued Senior Member

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    An interesting contribution! We know now, as archives are progressively made public, just how desperately Hitler tried to make peace with Britain. He had relied on the opinion of Foreign Minister Ribbentrop that substantial elements of the British establishment were sympathetic to Germany. He could not see why Britain would want to continue a conflict which it could not afford without becoming hopelessly in debt to America.

    We know now something of the struggle that took place between the "War Party" and the "Peace Party" in Britain. Churchill had taken control of the machinery of propaganda and prevented the British people from learning of the opportunity for peace. He also had command of the intelligence services. The War Party triumphed at enormous economic cost to the British nation; not to mention the cost in human suffering.

    Hitler could have declared a truce, sure . . . but it takes two sides to make peace. Churchill had been bought and paid for by the Jews, and he was intent on war. In any case, he seems to have had a particular personal hatred of Germans, which may well have been based on his singular failure to impress them with his personal qualities (drunken egotistic aristocrat) when visiting the country.
     
  19. houseofknowledge house of knowledge Registered Senior Member

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    His biggest mistake took place during d- day. During the raid Hitler was sleeping. Hitler had positioned many panzer tanks near the beach. But they could only be touched with his permission. Since Hitler was sleeping all the generals were to scared to inform him and gain permission for the use of the panzer tanks. If hitler hadn't needed permission the panzer tanks would have completely eliminated the allies.
    This would make d-day a complete failure.

    If the allies would not have been successful Hitler would have probably won the war.
     
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    are u serious? u are joking? do u really think d-day had much to do with outcome of hitler's failure?...All i can say is that in future they develop a time machine and go back in time to know the real history.
     
  21. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    hitler should have left russia alone because the russians put to rest the notion that the germans were invincible. that alone could have had a phsycological impact on the german moral.
     
  22. spiritual_spy SN0W_F0X Founder Registered Senior Member

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    Hitler's largest mistake was declaring war on the US period.
     
  23. Zephyr Humans are ONE Registered Senior Member

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    That was Japan's mistake, actually.
     

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