Star Wars vs Star Trek

Discussion in 'SciFi & Fantasy' started by Pollux V, May 9, 2002.

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Which universe would win?

  1. Star Trek

    227 vote(s)
    35.5%
  2. Star Wars

    268 vote(s)
    41.9%
  3. Spaceballs

    47 vote(s)
    7.3%
  4. Farscape

    12 vote(s)
    1.9%
  5. Dune

    50 vote(s)
    7.8%
  6. Stargate

    36 vote(s)
    5.6%
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  1. houseofknowledge house of knowledge Registered Senior Member

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    damn straight
     
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  3. mars13 give me liberty Registered Senior Member

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    your still not taking into account the borg adaptive abilities.


    after just scanning a sw ship they will have hyper drives,TLs and any other technology AND counters to that technology.

    thats what they do.

    and this goes back to the AM/FM anology.no frequency modulation puts sw at a HUGE disadvantage.all the amplitude in the galaxy doesnt mean squat if your enemies weapons can be modulated to pass throu your defences.which is what the borg SPECIALIZE in. and they REGENERATE if even 80% of a cube is destroyed.
     
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  5. houseofknowledge house of knowledge Registered Senior Member

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    they won't counter weapons. SW will just crush star trek
     
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  7. mars13 give me liberty Registered Senior Member

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    for your name being ''house of knowledge'' your not very knowledgable.


    SDs are outnumbered 100-1 by JUST the borg[10% of the galaxy],what dont you understand about that?


    borg cubes are 150X bigger,with LONGER attack ranges,regeneration,adaptive weapons that COUNTER defences,transporters that can beam over thousands of drones in seconds.SW has NONE of these.

    all sw has is get within 500KMs and shoot TLs blindly at enemy ships hoping for a hit.
     
  8. houseofknowledge house of knowledge Registered Senior Member

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    thats when the jedi come in. There are jedi that have the power to destroy with only their mind. The borg cube couldn't counter the mind of a jedi. The jedi could blow up the cube using the power of the force through its mind. Star Trek doesn't have anything like that.
     
  9. TW Scott Minister of Technology Registered Senior Member

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    Mars is once again spoting gibberish. The borg have not shown any superior ranged weapons. The only time you see them firing at something more than 5 km away is at a freaking planet (earth to be precise), their weaponry takes advantage of ST flawed shield designs and their sheld can optimize themselves to repell the firepower of a single Fed GCS. That last fact is impressive untill you take into consideration that Slave-I has better shields and beam weaponry that a Fed GCS and arguably better missles and mines.

    The borg do not stand a chance of winning. They can try to delay their own demise, but that is it. One the Empire bloodies the the Hirogen will hunt them to extinction if the Empires doesn't beat them to it.
     
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  10. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    What is that I hear? Fap-fap-fap?
     
  11. houseofknowledge house of knowledge Registered Senior Member

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    even R2-D2 can kick worf's ass.
     
  12. daylight Registered Senior Member

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    Your implying the Jedi are godlike and can just think an enemy out of exsistence, however if that were true then what is the point of having the Star Wars movies... couldnt Yoda have just thought all the bad Jedi out of exsistence... or Vader just think the Rebels out of exsistence instead of chasing them around the universe!!!?

    And yes in TNG there was an episode where they found a person that made a false reality around him because he couldnt bear the guilt of wiping out a race of people in a moment of anger.


    What will happen to the empire when the borg assimilate the jedi academy and the strengths of the jedi are used by the borg? What will happen to the empire when the planet where clones are made becomes assimilated by the borg? What will happen when your ships and your technology become assimilated by the borg.
    How will you deal with an enemy that turns your friends into foes, how will you deal with an enemy that does not kill but turns your people into its soldiers.
     
  13. daylight Registered Senior Member

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    And all those planets all those people all the resources will be assimilated by the borg.
     
  14. daylight Registered Senior Member

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    Your saying the Empire will kill the Hirogen, and there will be one less race to have to fight against..

    The borg would not do that, the borg would assimilate and there would not be a net lost off availible assets to wage war with. You would not have one less race to fight but rather an enemy that has increased its might. How will your SW universe deal with the exponetial growth of the Borg.
     
  15. daylight Registered Senior Member

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    If any Universe has poorly made tech it has to be SW, look at some of the terrible design choices SW engineers have made.

    Death Star!! do i have to point it out!!!
    Robot army?!! How did they stop that army again?
    Clones.. sure they're good at fighting, but they should have put some brains or something into that DNA.. Ewoks outsmarted them.
    Anything mechanical with legs... just get some rope and trip that sucker over....
    Horrible computer security, R2 can just about hack anything.
     
  16. daylight Registered Senior Member

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    I think being able to feed your troops, beaming things back and forth, making matter out of energy is pretty useful in war.

    Dominination and assimilation of new species is how borg tech evolved. Borg will turn your ships into---- new borg ships, and assimilate wonderful offensive capabilities.
     
  17. daylight Registered Senior Member

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    Anyone else wanna further the ST cause?
     
  18. houseofknowledge house of knowledge Registered Senior Member

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    ok shut up with ur borg. the borg are a useless race. Send a massive fleet of destroyers and rebel ships onto the borg and the borg will be destroyed. Plus there was a jedi who can literally turn the tide of the war by thinking. Just purchase Starwars something part one. THeres a new part 2 to it. I forgot what its called but such a jedi did exist in that game. She can obliterate the dam borgs. Ok and since the borgs are machines.
    Watch starwars episode 3 . At the end you'll see Darth Vader's anger. Yes only anger destroy robots all around him. That is what will happen exactly to the dam borgs.
     
  19. daylight Registered Senior Member

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    lol, good job destoying one borg ship,, now what about the other ones. i hope you didnt lose any ships in that conflict, it would be ashamed if they were assimilated.

    Your saying Vaders anger makes a good borg repellant, if he could extend his anger to the whole universe then maybe it would work but until then its just gonna make him seem crazy.
    The borg are part machine part biological, vader would make an excellent drone.

    The borg is best race to win a war on the universal scale. They have unique abilities that i have pointed out in my previous post acouple of pages back.

    You stated this but didnt know his name, "Plus there was a jedi who can literally turn the tide of the war by thinking." Let me help you out, his name is Q.

    I didnt really want to talk about godlike powers cause its a moot point.. Is my god better then your god?

    Gather your thoughts together and form a cohesive opinion on what strengths would allow the empire to overcome the threat of the borg. What tatical advantages would the empire/SW universe have over the borg? Dont just cuss and tell me to go watch the movie.
     
  20. daylight Registered Senior Member

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    shut up, isnt really cussing.
    I am sorry.
     
  21. thedevilsreject Registered Senior Abuser Registered Senior Member

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    well stars wars do have bases on all planets so they have the capability to lauch an assault fro anywhere in the universe
     
  22. houseofknowledge house of knowledge Registered Senior Member

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    send clone troopers to get rid off the borgs.
     
  23. daylight Registered Senior Member

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    clone troopers wouldnt be cannon fodder but instead become borg drones.
     
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