Robotics and the future

robotics->nanotechnology->possibility of cell rejuvenation->immortality

 

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Which If Robots were got to do alot more jobs people could get together with plenty of time on there hands and strive to get nanotechnology doing cell rejuvenation.
Theres always going to be something to strive for, So robots should do all the boring work and humans can get on and strive for stuff.

 

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im happy I have a believer and a follower.

 

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Yes thats all very well and good, but incase you have forgot, humans that don't work are unemployed, robots and machines have only ever reduced the available number of jobs for humans, there by making life harder for the general masses. We would need to do away with Democracy, capitalism and all our other freedoms so that the machines would provide everything, whats the point of that. Life is intended to be a struggle, thats what encourages people to make more people!

 

Life is not intended to be a struggle nor suffering. A true christian you are I see. Life was meant to be a way to expand our understanding of universe. Machines will help us do that by taking away our thinking of the stuff that takes time and needs not much of a thought. We can focus on other things, machines will not necessarily take away everything from humans.

 

Robots mean robot prostitutes.

I cannot wait.

 

That philosophy is hardly restricted to "true Christians". The same philosophy can be seen on the Classic Star Trek TV series: That mankind must have challenges and obstacles to retain a healthy society. Otherwise it stagnates and either ossifies or dies.

People have a need to feel they are making a contribution to society. The poor who cannot find honest work become depressed and alienated from society, and many turn to drugs or crime. The useless rich also tend to lead lives of pointless dissipation; that's what F. Scott Fitzgerald wrote about in The Great Gatsby.

Robots will free us from the drudgery of menial work, allowing us to pursue more noble endeavors? Well it's a nice ideal. But mankind has repeatedly proven its inability to create a utopia, despite repeated tries. One can always hope, but I question it's realistic.

 

Robots are destined to replace most of the crap jobs, but this will create an underclass of unemployed unskilled people, which will lead to the great Revolution of 2112.

 

The unemployed unskilled people would be fed, clothed, housed and entertained by robots, so why would they revolt for the sake of getting their crap jobs back? If they really got annoyed with not working they could go and make cups of tea for the highly tooled up robot repair men....

(whoes jobs would mostly consist of watching robots fix one another two days a week and possibly calling an automated advice telephone line in the event of the robots fixing the other robots breaking. Therefore the upperclass of skilled workers would be not be much different from the unemployed....)

 

Raw2000 is correct, people don't revolt because they are tired of being well-fed, entertained and cared for. Get bored and do stupid, dangerous, destructive things, yes. But that would tend towards vandalism, not revolt.

 

I got a different theory. People revolt to show off their macho in front of their women...so that the women know how manly men are.

 

What makes you think that having loads of robots will create some kind of Utopia where no one needs to works to make a living? Even if robots could make and do absolutely everything for us who's going to pay for all the technology, fuel and infrastructures? Do you foresee some kind of socialist based world where money is not required and everybody is equal?

 

Just a thought; picture for a moment what you all are suggesting about robots but on a smaller scale. Imagine your house is very highly automated and very easily programmable to your own choosing. How would you feel after living in it for a week, or two weeks or until all the novelty has gone (and you've told every friend or family member more than once about it)? Will you you want to burn it down?! (HAHAhaha...) Most likely what will happen is that you will get used to it and used to not having to spend (waste) time doing certain things. And then if one day you had to go back to 'normal' it would be strange and unfamiliar and it would be consuming your time again (which would likely annoy most people).

People will still enjoy sports, leisure and general recreation just as much; if not more because it will be more popular. People will still work and have jobs if less complex tasks can be automated. I don't think it's unrealistic to say that with more time available to do what interests people, people will be more happy.

What do you mean "who's going to pay for it"? It's already happening. The consumer pays for it! (Ever heard of an electrical appliance..?) Remember though, it's a gradual process - you won't get a Utopia overnight.

 

But, just how many jobs will there be left when robot tech reaches the point where bots become so advanced and cost effective enough to be able to do virtually anything? I would imagine that to say that 80% of the human workforce could become redundant would not be an understatement. In that scenario I cannot see how being unemployed and unpaid could lead to leisure and pleasure for the masses, indeed, I can see the exact opposite.

 

There is also the added fear of viruses and of bots being hijacked and reprogrammed remotely by the ever present mad men, which could eventually lead to a Terminator type scenario. The future is indeed scary!

 

How it is possible, that there will be more robots, than is needed to help people to barely sustain themselfs?

One needs resources to produce and sustain robots.

If able, willing and allowed to reproduce, the robots would become a separate civilization, with the same problems that human one has.

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Think of it as the humans being the aristocrats and the robots being the serfs or slaves. The robots do all the menial work, and in fact all the work that humans don't want to do. No one has to "pay" for anything. There may be a certain minimum standard of living-- a very high standard as compared to today-- for everyone, so in that respect you might call it socialism. But I doubt there will be equality; there will still be political and economic spheres of influence, so perhaps the society will more resemble the Antebellum South of the USA, or Classical Rome.

 

Utopia.
Robots will get rid of humans, as soon as they do not need us.
Which will happen before humans will have to do nothing for living.

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Creation of robots capable of such things seems too far off to be worth thinking of. Look at what MIT AI student graduates produce these days, a dysfunctional vacuum cleaner they call a robot (that roomba thing). Looks like they gave up on AI and switched to marketing. On another note, I believe they are going to get contracts to build robot soldiers. Let's hope that is easier than a vacuum cleaner.

 

It is my understanding, that robotics and AI are neglected in US. Which is a strange phenomenon, considering that a lot of PSEUDOSCIENCE is fluorishing.

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