Animal cruelty

Knock yourself out. I mean, literally, knock yourself out by cutting off your oxygen supply. Oh, it is such a rush. :m:

PS) Just make sure you have someone near you to help you if it goes wrong.

 

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No, just attacked and luckily for you I do not feel threatened, becuase while you do honestly believe you fight for truth and justice, I can see you do not. It's a sad, sad, sad, state of affairs in your mind. You are fighting to make innoccent people feel guilty for what is not in the least bit a sin.

And milking cows, and egg gathering.

But you are asking to start the slippery slope that will lead to that.

Actually I do. I respect every animal that dies to feed me. Jusdt as a respect every plant. Part of that respect is being the predator.

Yes, but we still have room to do things. A cattle ranch is just fenced in nature with a few wells and a house and barn. Not fields stripped of everything but the type of plant you are trying to make cash from

True, but that is not the meat eaters doing it. Not the ranchers. It is the people planting wheat, corn, tomatos, and chili's.

With over 5% unemployment and the fact that in some areas the Ranch is THE employer, then yeah I guess some people would prefer it to starving to death.

 

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animal rights - certain drug trials/testing i accept needs to be done to establish the safety of potentially life saving drugs - i can see the greater good in that

testing cosmetics and killing animals for fur i believe is very wrong, im not a vegetarian - if the whole animal is being used as in the case of cows - for its meat - for its hide - then i see the necessity.

bastards that abuse and animals, like the pig ignorant fux that set fire to cats, kick dogs to death, poison rabbits, hunt down foxes (and tear them to pieces) would all be in the queue for the hangmans noose.

once caught - instant sentance. No trial, no appeals, no courts of human rights, simple swift justice.

i suspect such a hard line against such cruelty would mean a significant reduction in crimes like have been mentioned.

first to the gallows --> naomi campbell, never wear fur indeed. HARPY !

 

No, people who are cruel to animals should not be killed. Thats just retarded.

 

yes while people who are cruel to animals should not be killed the sentences are way too leniant. however how do you define animal cruelty, my dad is a farmer and i live on one and sometimes you have to give an animal a beating to make it do what you want, and that is the same in all farms. and are you allowed to hit your pet if it does something bad??

 

perhaps individuals that are cruel to animals are retarded, and so they would only understand a supposed retarded punishment.

i can understand slapping a dog for crapping or urinating on the rug, a short sharp physical reinforcement of a lesson is often necessary. like teaching a child not to play with matches - the greater good is at stake.

But - kicking a cat around till it dies is barbaric, as is scalding a child, as it setting fire to a dog, as is throwing a child down a flight of stairs.

the mentality involved in any such malicious action needs tempering, physical reinforcement is my suggestion - physical reinforcement is the only punishment society has now anyway - think prison, and the manner of denial of liberty that is the ideal behind imprisonment.

Prison alone isnt working for some offenders, the worst offenders in each catagory ought to be made examples of, i put to you - televised hangings, televised electricutions, televised lion feeding.

Lets make the punishment fit the crime - instead of justice being a by word for the soft option - the half measure - the incapability of society to deal with its self made horrors.

If any of you can give me 1 legitimate reason why roy whiting, gary glitter, myra hindley, ian brady, jack the ripper should have been allowed to live, then i will re-evaluate my theory.

 

No, I'm sorry. The death penalty does not fit the crime of animal cruelty. I don't care if you set fire to a cat, it's still a cat. It's not human. Yes, it is barbaric but it does in no way warrant an execution, and certainly not a public one. This is not Iran. This is the civilised world. Punishments should be increased, yes, and be made to fit the crime. Bring back lashings.

 

You never have to "beat a child up" to get it to do what you want. That is a large exageration. Yes, use physical force, as Quagmire says (for the greater good), give the kid a slap when it plays with matches, but beating is over the top. Different degrees of actual physical 'contact' (in violent terms) differ to the situation, but beatings are ALWAYS wrong. I've been on the recieving end of an aggresive father, and its not nice!

 

children learn from being beaten, they learn it is an acceptable way to behave, and to make others do as you want.

slapped legs i feel is an adequate detterent for a child, especially in cases where the well being and safety of the child is the issue - for instance - running into the road - playing with matches - messing with the substances under the sink.

punch a child to the ground then kicking it around is horrifying, torturing a child is horrifying.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/3239546.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/2937293.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2585687.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/uk/2002/victoria_climbie_inquiry/default.stm

above are links to child cruelty cases

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/humber/4903904.stm this link is in relation to some bastard that has a 12 month old daughter, i wouldnt trust him to look after her, would you?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_east/4940796.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/4883396.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4879636.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/4771096.stm

all of these ignorant pigs need a severe lesson, they only understand physical violence, it is all they respect.

Lets make the punishment fit the crime - it wont take many executions for the message to take effect.

punishment should mean detterent, not an all expenses paid holiday with the rest of the lads to some prison where 'slopping out is against prisoners human rights'.

Britain in its current state is sickening.