The US war-starting hoax

Once again - they said they didn't have one. Foleyan rules of Middle Eastern discourse dictate that "if someone say it's so, it is". Thus, the Israelis have no nukes.

And once again Foley still cannot provide one single newslink which clearly states that Iran is not trying to develop an Atomic weapons programme.

You asked what their initial infraction was: I showed you.

You demanded I accept the dictate of the IAEA: I did (and they agreed with ME).

You think you can see into the heads of the Mullah Council, or the nutbar who runs Iran, but that I can't.

And yet you deny all of the above, without ever realizing that the reason Iran hasn't been able to make a nuke is precisely because there's been exactly this kind of pressure on them.

Foley, I think you need to change the foil in your aluminum hat.

Geoff

 

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Mordechai Vanunu

How many newslinks do you want ?

I did not ask that I asked very clearly on here and as well on my other Iranian thread .

Now could you for Fucks sake do it !!!!

Good so you agree with the IAEA decision of November 2005 concerning Iran here .

What am I psychic ! Just show me the Fucking hard evidence which says Iran is developing an Atomic Weapon as you claimed on my last Iranian thread ?

Again no evidence has been put forward and accepted that Iran wants to develop an atomic weapon ! Show me where the US has come outright and declared that Iran is actively pursuing an Atomic weapon programme ?

Is this clown for Fucking real ?

 

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Gettin' ready to attack Iran, and start that final war, yeah baby! Tomorrow we wake up in heaven after the rapture.

 

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.......yous a propaganda spONGE!

 

You seem to forget that conspiracy nuts, anti-american powers, and a dozen other groups are all pumping out their own propaganda.
And you are most definitely their sponge.

 

Gesundheit.

Seriously, though, it doesn't matter in Foleyan logic what proof you have - only of what you say.

I read those - old, out of date, and all they seem to talk about is what they think Iran's going to do or not do. None of them have any real proof. Suspicion isn't proof. Can't you find any real proof?

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Err...you said:

Maybe that was some other Brian Foley.

I already did !!!! Didn't you find the comments !!!! Do you need new glasses !!!!

Of course! And their follow-up on Iran where they kind of changed their minds:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060201/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_nuclear

However the links are older than Foley's shirt, so I have excerpts here:

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=51540&page=7&pp=20

No, you're not, but you think you are, and I didn't say they definitely were, I said they probably are trying to do so and would in a blink if no one were looking. Duuh. You only seem to deal in absolutes, but - or when it's to your advantage, anyway.

I don't know: are you?

Back to your bunker, Foley. The Illuminati are coming. And they have the rubber protruder.

Geoff

 

"Since 1990 the US has oversawthe mass murder of 1.5+ Iraqi human beings"

Really?? It was my understanding that Saddam was in power during this time periord?? He obviously had enough money to build new digs with gold sinks...

So Bryan, how is it that Saddam had enough money to build palaces with gold sinks and yet couldnt feed his people? Are you saying his gold sinks were more important?

 

Gesundheit? Heh, typical. Try and use humor to sideskirt the issue of having your claims refuted in regards to the so-called innocence of Israel.

Mordechai Vanunu is a guy's name.

Here, read up:

- N

 

Gold sinks & having 30 majestic palaces are part of the perks of being a dictator, there is no doubt sadaam was affected by these harsh sanctions too, work on another 15 new grand palces was put on hold, & his hareem shrinked to under a 1000 girls, the americans also had sanctions on US hard core porn, so sadaam no longer had access to new snuff dvds, so he had to make do with killing his own people, after decades of doing this he was by this stage very bored with it, & before he so much enjoyed curling up in front of a log fire with a cuban cigar, a brandy & the latest american snuff dvd's, the mark of a outstanding dictator is to ascend the killing fields, and embrace hollywood snuff dvds.

So lets not forget sadaams hardships too......

 

Sometimes I don't know if Vincent is trying to make a point, which he is doing pretty well, or is just being... Vincent.

 

I wish Vincent would post more often.

And duendy strikes again, God I love her posts. Trying to decipher them is a good way to past the time when I don't feel like doing any homework.

 

Yep your Fucked .

Right my source is from 5 months ago from the IAEA , and this clown on page one of this thread gives a link from 2003 .All those links are current ie: 2005 to 2006 and pacifically state that Iran does not and is not pursuiing an atomic weapons programme .

No morris dancer your link is an IAEA document of " Implementation of the NPT safeguards agreement in the Islamic Republic of Iran " it is about safety standards and documentaion . Not an indictment of Iranian illegality , now could you provide a link which corroborates your claim .

Comments ! comments ! I want links to verified newsources you know what I asked for proof ! Or are you simply playing ignorant because you cant back up yopur mouth .

Your link does not exist .

Could stop Fucking around and start providing .

Strange on this thread you assured me that Iran was indeed seeking an Atomic weapon .

And further on you clearly state that Iran :

You are once again contradicting yourself , you have a habit of doing this .

Somewhere in England a Morris dancing Troupe is missing its village Idiot .

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Back to your Village square , Geoff ! oooh Arrr ! oooh Arrr !

 

Palaces ? Bullshit more US propaganda , from what I saw of those edifices they looked like wealthy residential housing . All were empty and devoid of furniture indicative of owners who were residing overseas as is common during upheavals .Why the Fuck would he supposedly build 100s of palaces with gold fittings only to leave them empty ? And the larger Palces which were trumpted by the Press were goverment buildings and military complexs . Something the US orchestrated kangaroo trial of Saddam Hussein is burying as quickly as it inventede the story .

They died because America inflicted on Iraq a medieval embargoe which under noursihed an entire nation , an embargoe which prevented medicines from entering the nation of Iraq killing in swathes . Your nation is the murderer of defenceless human beings

 

Proof?

How so?

Are you serious? What about the US, Russia, China, France, Great Britain, Pakistan, India...

Ah. So, it's just your old anti-Semitism flaring up again, and that's why you mentioned Israel. Ok, just had to be clear on that.

 

Neildo, I think that Geoff is quite aware of both Vanunu and of the Israeli nuclear weapons. He's trying to make a point about Foley's argument: Foley seems to think that if the Iranians say that they aren't trying to build nukes then that is sufficient evidence for it to be true. When applied anything other than the endorsed Foley viewpoint, it becomes quite apparent (by the multitude of contradictions) that such logic isn't worth the rise in entropy it took Foley to dream it up.

 

what a bunch of bulshit. you dont know shit- m tired of you rants you tirads, yuou radical hippie pot smokin good gor nothing
:m:

 

so...everyone u dont agree with becomes a pot tokin head ne'r d well?....??
you gin drinkin redneck

 

gor head show everyone your biases. you forgot shit kicker./

 

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Iran 'given Pakistan centrifuges'



Khan confessed last year to leaking nuclear secrets

Pakistan has confirmed that the former head of its nuclear weapons programme, AQ Khan, gave centrifuges for enriching uranium to Iran.

It is the first time Pakistani officials have publicised details of what nuclear materials the disgraced scientist passed on to Iran.

Information minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed told the BBC's Urdu service that "a few" centrifuges were involved.

Iran is under international pressure over its nuclear ambitions.

It says it intends to use enriched uranium only in power stations, but the US says Iran is making fuel for nuclear weapons.

'Personal capacity'

The Pakistani information minister stated again on Thursday that his government had no knowledge of Dr Khan's activities.

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"He helped Iran in his personal capacity," he said, the Associated Press news agency reported.

Officials have consistently said that the government had no knowledge of Mr Khan's activities on the nuclear black market.


Why Pakistan's nuclear scandal still hits the news





Many analysts have questioned the veracity of these denials saying it would have been impossible for him to conceal his actions.

Dr Khan remains under close guard at his home in Islamabad.

The authorities have refused to allow experts from the UN nuclear watchdog, citing national security.

"We will not hand over [Dr Khan] to any other country," Mr Ahmed reiterated on Thursday.

Last month he dismissed reports that the US was probing whether Dr Khan had sold nuclear secrets to Arab nations.

European countries and the UN recently joined the US in criticising Iran for allegedly not keeping a pledge to suspend uranium enrichment activities.

UN atomic energy agency chief Mohamed ElBaradei said this month that the "ball is very much in Iran's court to come clean".

Nation shocked

The US has called Dr Khan the "biggest proliferator" of nuclear technology.

Labelled the father of Pakistan's nuclear programme, Dr Khan confessed last year to leaking nuclear secrets.

He said he took full responsibility for proliferating nuclear weapons to Iran, Libya and North Korea.

President Pervez Musharraf pardoned him, but the scandal embarrassed and traumatised Pakistan, and stunned world nuclear experts.

Dr Khan had held the post of scientific adviser since retiring as head of the country's top nuclear facility in 2001 but was sacked after his confession.

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Brian,brian,brian,

Can you read, then read the above, this pakistan scientist who developed the nukes for the paki's, also passed it on to north korea, who now say they have nukes, he also passed it to libya who admitted they were developing them too, the third country is iran, now brian are we to believe iran unlike the other 2 countries is not developing nukes, and there interests with him were only to develope nuclear power, i was under the impression the russian were building there nuclear power stations, the russian have also offered to do all enrichment too.

So why,why, do they need to be talking to the paki scientist who developed nukes.

I wonder if he was the first to develope hoola hoops in pakistan, would they be interested in him then.

Brian do you need dot to dot books, to get to the truth, how much proof do you need brian.

Hell brian if the iranians give you a guided tour of the nuclear bombs plans, with signs pointing to nuclear bombs, each target individually named on the bomb, washington, new york, israel, you would turn around and still say, so this is a nuclear power station then.

Brian you are a real dingo,
i just wish it snatched you at Aires Rock, in that well known australian fairy tale.

 

Still, it would be a terrible idea to nuke Iran. Shiites in Iraq would be furious, Iran could strike Israel with conventional weapons, and it would be the first use of nuclear weapons since WWII which would outcast the US from the international community.

It is probable that Iran is using our debacle in Iraq as cover to develop their own nukes, but I don't see any solution other than diplomacy.