Cold Fusion Sabotaged

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  1. Singularity Banned Banned

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    People,

    Do U think that if a cheap energy solution becomes available, Oil barons will get as much money as they get now ?
     
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  3. Communist Hamster Cricetulus griseus leninus Valued Senior Member

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    Not from oil, but they will use their already vast dosh reserves to buy into cold fusion! Simple, non?
     
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  5. marv Just a dumb hillbilly... Registered Senior Member

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    First, most of you are assuming that cold fusion is feasible. Remember that it has to be demonstrated first.

    Second, most of you are assuming, that if cold fusion works as advertised, it will be the energy that will be sold. But it'll be household sized units that produce the energy, not the energy itself. Just like batteries for your car or flashlight (that's a torch for you Brits).
     
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  7. Light Registered Senior Member

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    That's all very highy doubtful.

    First, the idea of cold fusion itself and second that such highly sophisticated technology (which most likely can't happen anyway) could be packaged in such a way as to be operable by the average un-technical consumer. If such a device were ever constructed it wouldn't be simple plug-and-play like an ordinary battery.

    But as has been said, cold fusion itself is about as likely to happen as it is to be delivered by Santa Clause.
     
  8. Singularity Banned Banned

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    So U mean even if there more energy supply than to consume .....


    Marv,

    read my last points here http://sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=52570

    dont forget to read about this Biggest possible revolution in histroy of humanKind, http://www.genencor.com/wt/gcor/ethanol
     
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  9. Communist Hamster Cricetulus griseus leninus Valued Senior Member

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    Ethanol? You're kidding right? That's not a "revolution", it's been known about for years.
     
  10. Singularity Banned Banned

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    I am kidding and U r justa Kid I guess to understand such collosal things.
     
  11. Chatha big brown was screwed up Registered Senior Member

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    Alright folks. Can anybody explain how cold fusion works?
     
  12. Light Registered Senior Member

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    Nope, because it's never been proven to work.

    That's similar to asking what a unicorn eats - since there are no unicorns.

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  13. Facial Valued Senior Member

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    Something with palladium electrodes... I forgot everything else.

    At least there's bubble fusion, which is real.
     
  14. GMontag Registered Senior Member

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    You're wrong. A team from UCLA was able to successfully generate fusion at room temperatures a couple of months ago. It has since been reproduced by a team from RPI.

    It works by using pyroelectric crystals to create ridiculously strong local electric fields which force deuterium atoms together.
     
  15. Light Registered Senior Member

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    I would be quite happy to be proven wrong. Why didn't this make national and international headlines? Can you provide a link to information about it?
     
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  17. Pete It's not rocket surgery Registered Senior Member

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    I remember that one, it (or an earlier experiment) was [thread=46870]discussed on sciforums[/thread].

    It's exciting (pyroelectric crystals are cool), but it's fundamentally different in technique and purpose to the "cold fusion" we all know and love

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    Yes, it's fusion. No, the device doesn't generate net power - it consumes much more than it generates. It's potential use (at this time) is not power generation, but rather a neutron or x-ray source.

    It would be really exciting if it were developed into a reasonably efficient power source, but I'm not holding my breath.
     
  18. weed_eater_guy It ain't broke, don't fix it! Registered Senior Member

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    know what, there couldn't be a cold fusion coverup because if it worked, the guy making it work could send out video footage and documentation of the endeavor to news stations around the globe, while similtaneiously publishing plans to create a cold fusion generator on the internet, and of course creating the proper technical reports of the scientific findings. news of the technology would spread like wildfire, people will start building their own, universities would look at the published plans and confirm it's working, and there is NO WAY IN HELL any energy or oil "barons" would be able to stop the cascade of this technology through the international masses.
    it would change mankind indefinetly from that point on, and nobody could hide it in a conspiracy.

    of course, this hasn't happened, so it's not a coverup. but definetly worthy of more research.

    i know i'm bringin up an old thread, I just saw something on the history channel about cold fusion, and how it's regained interest, which made me think about the '89 story and supposed "cover up". I just don't think a coverup could actually be done for something like that...
     
  19. iam Banned Banned

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    there is no such thing and never has been cheap energy because its always monopolized to garner wealth for the greedy as they fleece and hang the public for what they get even if the next source is fresh cow patty.
     
  20. MetaKron Registered Senior Member

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    Cold fusion was "discredited" which is a lot better than attempts at concealment. The methods that they used to "discredit" cold fusion were really bad.
     
  21. weed_eater_guy It ain't broke, don't fix it! Registered Senior Member

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    right, they discredited it because nobody knew what the heck was going on, all i'm saying is that I'm pretty sure it wasn't a conscious decision to allow oil to have a longer life span. otherwise, why don't I hear about people building their own cold fusion reactors to power their homes?
     
  22. MetaKron Registered Senior Member

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    Why don't you hear about people manufacturing their own integrated circuits or solar cells, genius?
     
  23. cato less hate, more science Registered Senior Member

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    meta has a good point. if cold fusion worked, its not likely to be a home-build thing.

    to the point of "oil barons":

    the current system is slow to adapt. if one company could generate electricity for half the price, the cost of energy would not dip very much at first, as those with cheap energy would not be able to produce as much as is consumed, thus market forces (supply/demand) would keep prices high. high sales price and low production cost would mean huge profits for whoever got the technology first.

    I am talking trillions if someone like AEP or TVA, who has the infrastructure and assets to advance the tech quickly, jumped on it. nobody is going to care about the long term if they can make billions or trillions in the short term (which they would).
     
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