p_ete, as a gesture of respect to the mods, let's continue your theory here. this is something new to me:) so please tell me more!!

so, you were saying neil armstrong and his gang have never been to the moon. and the subsequent lunar missions were hoax. does this mean, by extension, the entire space programme is a front?

please...in details...what about those footages of the moon, space-walking etc. what about russian astronauts? were they hoaxes too?

you have never heard this before!!!??? i find that hard to beleive aseedrain

ok. there is loads of stuff. i dont know all of it but here is some of the stuff i know:
The flag on the moon is waving around.as if in wind.there is no atmosphere on the mooon so how can it be flapping??

also there is so much radiation surrounding the earth (there is a band around us) that no human could have survived getting through it without a certain thickness of lead surrounding them (which they did not have)

I dont think the whole space programme is a front because electronic instruments can get through the radiation and we can learn more but the astronauts could not have got through it.

there are crosses on the photographs but one of the crosses acruially goes behind something in the picture!! this is impossible

there is also something about the shadows.from the angle of the sun a shadow of an astronaut should not be where it is (or it is too long or something)

there is more aseedrain

there is a rock with an initial angaved on it

the footage could easily have been the astranauts being filmed in the navada desrt (area 51) and the footage being slowed down so they apear to be weightless

holy bovine products!!

this is the first time i've heard of this. i'm rather ignorant about this sort of thing. how long has this been going around?

the radiation - doesn't the capsule's body protect the astronauts?

maybe you could provide me some links so that i can find out more myself (the rational links if you can, not the crackpot ones) since this thread seems to interests only you and i.

wouldn't want to turn this into a chat thread...:D

Any links he provides will be "crackpot ones".

Peace.

You're forgetting the Russians...nuff said

i have a strange feeling ur laughing at me on the other end of this cable aseedrain :(

im sure everyone has heard of this. its been around (id say) since not long after the footage was shown.
BTW. i should clarify this. Buzz Aldrin didnt really beat someone to near death because he asked him to swear on the bible that he's been to the moon. He did however smack him in the mouth (there is footage as proof (im almost certain)) yes there is. because thats why there is suspicion. in court (if it goes) they are going to say it was entrapment i.e. why was someone there with a camera.

links:

http://moonhoax1.tripod.com/MoonHoax/

(youll have to find others yourself :p :D lol)

http://www.apollohoax.com/ <- a really good one BTW

It will not go to court as the police refused to enter charges. When the unedited video was reviewed by law enforcement agencies (not the released-for-television version), it became quite apparent that Mr. Aldrin reacted, possibly poorly, to severe harrassment by the "gentleman" who got popped.

Peace.

Ok. thanks goofyfish. Do u think we went to the moon though goofyfish?? (check out the links)

The Great Moon Hoax (http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast23feb_2.htm)

No, p_ete. I am not laughing at you. I'm not the sort that keep my eyes and ears opened for every conspiracy theory available.

But when I do happen by some stuffs passed on by people that don't strike me as crackpots, I take an interest.I don't necessarily believe them but I enjoy the alternate views.

You don't strike me as a.....I wish I had a better word - crackpot, so when you brought it up, I thought you might have something genuine that can back up your arguements.

Anyway, thanks for the link. :)

ur ignoring a lot of the photos though EvilPoet (well that link does). look at my bottom link. most of the links defending that moon landing only asnwer the same 3 questions (the ones about the same 3 photos). they ignore the rest. Check out this one. 1 peice of evidence alone disproves the whole thing. how can across that is within the lense disappear behind and object?!! it cant! it happens on more than one picture.

maybe the russians didnt go far enough into space to pass through the radiation thor!?

check out the pictures on here:

http://www.apollohoax.com/

pete

It never ceases to amaze me just how credulous some people can be. The whole Apollo Conspiracy theory has been around for years, and I hadn't given much thought to it, I'd heard some of the 'classic; arguments (e.g. no stars in photographs, flag waving in a windless environment) and not given them too much thought, the reasons for these 'anomalies' are quite straight forward, and could be answered by anyone with a basic secondary school education.
Or so I thought.
It hadn't occurred to me that people take this stuff seriously. My apathy began to diminish when I became aware of a number of rather cranky websites on the Internet purporting to have 'incontrovertible evidence' that Apollo was faked. These sites show no such thing, other than the lack of critical thinking skills there seem to be in the world.

http://www.nasastooge.fsnet.co.uk/

On the FOX program:

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html

they never answer all of the evidence Q!! One peice of evidence disputes the whole thing. it only takes one and there are quite a few that nasa havent attempted to argue (to my knowledge) have u seen the pictures on the link i provided!? What about the shadows and the superinposed pictures!? they never dispute all of the evidence against it...because they cant! (IMO) Well soon know anyway. A japanese/chinese satelite is passing over the spot where they landed. the buggy should still be there. (if its not nasa will proably claim aliens must have taken it :D ) You seen that footage of the module taking off from the moon to come back to earth!?? Well telll me, who was filming that??? Because everyone came back. no-one stayed on the moon did they? there is also something about the crater. underneath. its too big or shouldnt have been there when the picture was taken or something. answers on a postcard to p_ete2001...........(etc etc) please.

Who would like to make a bet with me now that when this japanese satelite passes over the moon that the flag and buggy are missing?

pete

there are quite a few that nasa havent attempted to argue (to my knowledge)...You seen that footage of the module taking off from the moon to come back to earth!?? Well telll me, who was filming that??? Because everyone came back. no-one stayed on the moon did they?

It is obvious that, in the time it took you to respond to my post (11 minutes), you did not look at the links I provided. Not only does this show you're not interested in reviewing the evidence as you've clearly made up your mind, but it also shows your complete lack of thinking skills and cognitive reasoning. You are a prime example of how an education system can fail.

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Originally posted by p_ete2001
check out the pictures on here:

http://www.apollohoax.com/
I have checked them out before, thanks anyways.

yes i think it was faked

thanks for ur post goofyfish :rolleyes: lol

Firstly...
There simply wasn't enough time to get a lethal dose, and, as a matter of fact, the metal hull of the spaceship did indeed block most of the radiation. For a detailed explanation of all this, my fellow Mad Scientist William Wheaton has a page with the technical data about the doses received by the astronauts.

OK. lets see how technical he gets shall we......

Then what would be the radiation dose due to such fluxes, for the amount of time an astronaut crew would be exposed?....Unfortunately I have not located quantitative information.......but my recollection is that the dose was roughly

:eek: :eek: :eek: :confused: I take it all back. your right. We did go to the moon :rolleyes: :p :D (only kidding ;) . still dont think we went though)

I have heard all of this before. Let's review:

Why is it in the video that no stars can be seen?

Why is it that when our good buddy Neil walks he kicks up dust?

Why is it that the American flag moves like that (wavy and everything)?

Why is it that we can see Ed the Janitor clearly picking up trash in the background?

WHY? Because its fake.

I read it on the internet - so it must be true!

Right? (http://www.humor.ornot.us/humor/hoax_summary.html) ;)

...Ed the Janitor??? :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Yes. Ed the Janitor. He died a few days later... apparently he saw something that he wasnt suppose to see.

Anyone here remember the movie capricorn 5?

I actually saw a tv programme about it b4 i saw anything on the internet evil poet. And has anyone come up with the connection between the 'moon landing' and the gold going out of circulation?

They then stopped backing its currency with gold in 1971!!!!!!!!

You know gold exchange stopped before WW2?

No! thats why i put 1971 :rolleyes: :o

As offbeat as it may sound, Pat, there is no single thing we could do right now to make that happen than a restoration of the dollar/gold link. When the dollar was as good as gold, the rest of the world could link to it and grow around a stable unit of account. Under Bretton Woods, there were no "IMF loans" to desperately poor third-world nations. The IMF role was to monitor the BW system and provide short-term help to countries trying to avoid devaluation from the $35/oz. central gold link. Private banks arranged the third world loans and did a good business when they got paid back. After 1971, with the floating dollar, growth stopped in the third world and the banks wound up with bad loans. The IMF was then given the job of "collecting," which meant getting the hard cash out of U.S. taxpayers and "giving" it to the bankrupt country, which of course never saw the money. It went to the banks to clear up the bad loans. It was a corrupt system from the start and has become totally corrupt by now. also a new topic i know. i have checked a couple of sources and they say that the 'floating dollar' began, and 'gold exchange stopped' in 1971. :) Whats all this about WWII?