my prejidace ballet teacher....

so my dance recital is coming up. im curently in level 4 ballet, wich means i can make my own dance.
i chose to choreograph it to "suicide and other comforts" by cradle of filth, one of my all time favorite songs. it goes

its not provactive, has no foul language, and is a very classicale theme.
yet my ballet instructer has the level 3 and 4 girls doing the scene from swan lake, where the swan drowns itself because it finds its lover dead.
see any parallels here? because i sure do!

if shed just said that she didnt like the song, that it sounded too offensive, or that people would misinterpret it then i could understand. but instead she spent all day making pathetic excuses and trying to demean my choreography and the music. she said the dance is "too clasicale for that song" aside from the slight metal aspect, its very symphonic and classicale sounding. and the lyrics as well as the meaning its self are absolutly of a classicale sort.
"their is too much screaming, and i cant understand what hes saying" their isnt isnt that much screaming, after counting i found that dani screams 3 times, one of wich is actualy a growl or roar.... ok, so im getting litteral....
"definetly a work in progress, there are a few parts that could be made good" what the fuck!? ive been working on this for 3 straight weeks, the choreography is all but finished, and a few parts that could be made good? whats that soposed to mean, that none of it is good now?!
next semester i will be in level 5, the highest, by summer il be qualified to teach classes. im her only boy in ballet, top of the class in tap, and the best boy in jazz. and she thinks she can dot his to me!

yes, i chose this song simply to spite her for not recognizing me. yes i expected her to say i couldnt use it. but i was expecting more along the lines of 'realy exilent dance, but their will be 4 year old girls there, and theyr parents'

also, after showing the dance to my musicale theatre company, i now have an invitation to do it for a show they are planning for next halloween (yah, much in adcance, but oh well). so its good enugh for a PROFESIONEL company, but not for a 2 bit dance school in a run down converted house?

im too frustrated to think right now... ive just put so much into this project, spent so much emotionaly and put so much effort and time into it, only to have it shot down by a ballet instructer with the mind of a twelve year old whose favorite song is 'in my easter bonet'!

 

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cthulhus slave
ask yourself this question!
did you set an impossible test for your teacher to pass?
it sounds like you knew you had almost done that from the start

you have achived something that is already showing results
no need to thrash your teacher with it

remeber that people will be coming to be entertained !
not lectured on their hypocrasey!

maybe this is a lesson in its self for you
maybe you already knew the most likely outcome?
what could you have done differently?
done 2 different dances
one is the full extreem version
and the other is "the crappy little elfves go to disney for ice cream and pillow fights"
then let your teacher decide

find one you have done before and add some higher level moves to it
good luck

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i did say that, didnt i?

sacraficed her to the elder gods in return for great power years
ago? or am i off track here?

thats exactly what SHE said! ... ok, just think about this. at the recital will be almost exclusivly the parents of little children who are there simply to watch theyr tiny angles in too-toos jumping, turning, crashing into eachother, and pretending to dance. they will not be there to be entertaind, they will go to further disgrace any hope of this country regaining culture by flaunting these munchkins in pink and calling it buetifull art!
i had very little hope of actualy succeding in getting to perform this particulare piece for the recital, i expected to atleast have the respect of my teacher though. instead i was ridiculed and insulted, it is for this that i am upset.

 

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Maybe your teachers intention wasn't to ridicule and insult, but that you interpreted her reaction this way, since you had put so much effort in your dance. Maybe she just wasn't able to see the artistic viewpoint of your choice of music. She might be totally out of contact with more "modern" music. Ballet teachers can be that way...
But if only parents to 4-year olds are your audience there, then why bother to get this done, since you already had an invitation to another performance where your dance and choice of music will be better recieved and apprechiated?

 

Yeah, take your dance somewhere else. There is an absolute law that I'm surprised hasn't been written down, considering it's an ancient social norm: "THERE IS A TIME AND A PLACE FOR EVERYTHING."

While I would certainly love to a watch a black metal ballet, I doubt any of the parents there would like to see it. Perhaps try a classical composition that sounds somewhat similair without any of the vocals or guitar.

 

I think it's creative- it's a damn art form isn't it? Always push your teachers- the only thing they can tell you is how to help enhance your idea, not tell you an idea is bad...if they do then they're wrong and I'd do it anyway. Defy the elders and all who wish to force you to conform, but keep an open mind to suggestions.

 

i did attempt to remove the vocales and bass from an mp3 of the song, with moderate succes. but you could still here the singing, but only the 'melody' part, so dani sounded like a high chipmunk. tehehehe.

now im hoping i can atleast go with 'montsegur' by iron maiden, or maybe that will be too *contraversial* for her taste

 

it is really too bad she is against it.. the song would really be great.. have you considered to compromise with her? the bgeinning of that song is well... suprising to the unsespecting audience (??) .. but if you were to pick up the song at the 2:30 mark, it changes its tone alot, and if you put together a good peice with it, and showed it to her, id think she would have a hard time siding against you.

did you plan to use the whole song, or just cuts from it?


ohh a later thought..
if you wre planning to change songs... have you considred malice mizer? "shiroi" would be excellent as long as your techinique was accurate enough to keep up.. (that wasn't meant as an insult.. just saying parts of it would be tough).. and you could tell her it was japanese opera. lol.

 

good point NightFall

maybe if your able to compile your own track then why not construct one that has elements of other music...
like starting with a nice subtle intro of some well known classical peice...
it can be maybe only 30 seconds long..
and just say to teach.. "this is what im thinking of..."
do around 20 seconds of it and say you are still working on the rest

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just as much as you may not wish to be forced to watch two elderly men have sex!

so may the young childrens parents, not wish to be soaked in blood and hypocracey during...
a stage of new life and growth and hope..

if you can comprehend what i am talking about...
i hope so as it is a fundermental part of understanding your audience

good luck

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a good student will inevitably surpass their teacher
a good teacher and student will consistantly surpass each other

 

nightfall,
I'm downloading shiroi as I type this... My technique isn't too bad, I "specialize" (for lack of a better word) in classicale ballet, so I am generaly suficient in that area.

oh well, i think ive probably just been looking for a decent reason to despice her for a while.
id be a fool to let this stop me though, its a great dance, and ive already gotten great responses elsewhere.
but its realy not just this. ive been with this school for about three years, as ive said im in the top of the class, and yet i still only get bit parts, partnering (with my sister of all people!), and group dances. i am not apreciated or well used here.

i recently got an invitation to join a local dance company, so i wont be sticking around too long after this upcoming show.
im not going to stay where my talent and work is unrewarded. i dont mean to sound like an arogent big shot (well.... yes i do. but oh well.) its not like im realy good, or that this is my lifes work and entire futer, but i do work hard and i am capable.

 

as long as you have the goods to back the advertisment your fine. lol.

i took a girl on this year who boasted her 6 years of dance in multiple classes. you could REALLY see the ease in which she picked up moves (we make our try-out routine damn near impossible not expecting any of them to get it in 5 days). Even our judges saw the potential. unfortunately once everyone caught up it was easy to see she couldn't go any farther, and there was a reason her teacher kept her in the back. that girl moves in strange ways and it aint graceful. lol.


as long as your sure this doesn't apply. AND you're definately planning to leave after this year.. id see how far you can push her limits. give her a dramatic peice and a long blah blah blah about putting your soul into your dance, and how your soul just doesn't sing "im a little teapot"... she may be putting so much persuasion o your peice becuase she does se your skill and wants to chow it off as her beautiful artwork. kinda hard to do if you refuse.

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but when it comes down to it, it blows my mind that someone who is a dance instructor, which in my mind is someone who loves and lives for the art, could try to limit someones expression, creativity, and skill, simply because they don't car for the music. i mean hell, i teach hip hop routines. lol. that's no picnic. but if thats what drives you, you can't let someone else stop that. hopefully she understands that.

 

i love craddle of filth... in fact i think that is my favourite song of theirs.

i say if you want to use it, more power to you. if you were offended by your teachers comments, ask her to clarify. maybe offense was not her intent.

 

That is a lenthy song. I don't know much about dancing but I did join some singing contest.

 

Maybe you are "prejudiced" for trying to fit something extraneous into ballet? You can accuse anyone of "prejudice," and except according to the original meaning of the word, it is never true.

 

Maybe no one had a problem with the definition of "prejudice" in the context of the frickin' discussion. This is a thread about the limits of ballet, not semantic nitpicking.

Cthu: In my high school the drama class used Metallica lyrics for a Remembrance Day ceremony. I don't think that your teacher should be limiting your expression in this way... although the proverbial willow (that's you) may be forced to bend before the wind, since unfortunately school is sometimes about other people controlling you when they don't deserve it... if this is about a diploma, don't push too hard.

Does the same band have a lighter mix of the track?

 

Since you could say this about any semantic argument in any context, it is probably not a viable disadvantage.

 

oh! another thought!

IF your teacher is wooried about the theme being accepted by her audience, you could take the pressure off her..

you said you were inited to a company.. was it with that routine?

if it is a well known company, she may agree to let you do it if the is a caption in the program that this dance is what gained your entry to blah blah blah. then your teacher can brag that she is the reason you made it (with her training blah blah blah).. she'll think she's wonderful, and you'll get your way.

 

Holy mother.

Chtulu's.................................................a ballet dancer? He dances b-a-l-l-e-t?.

Pause.


Cthuluslave?????.


This was like finding out a few months ago that Jerrek, of all people, was homo.

Muhaha.
Bwahhaa.
Muhahahhahahha..........................merci.

 

It sounds like what you are doing is more modern interpretive than classical ballet.