Split thread from Should I try to reduce my libido, and if so, how? (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=90290)

Good luck with that. I'm 36 and my libido has not dropped off a bit since I was in HS.
Luckily I'm not married. And until I find a woman that has a libido that matches mine (and one that I know whose libido won't diminish drastically all of a sudden), I will remain single.
I find that entirely too many people don't think about the importance of compatible libidos, and I don't know why. There are enough people in the world that you can afford to be a bit more selective with what you want out of your partner.

... There are enough people in the world that you can afford to be a bit more selective with what you want out of your partner.

and how's that working for you? :p

and how's that working for you? :p
Ok let's clear something up right now, since you seem to have a way, way skewed perception of my situation.
I don't date, so it's not working for me; by choice though. I do not apply myself so therefore I have spent the last few years by myself. I do not apply myself on purpose, as female behavior in the dating sense gets on my god damn nerves 50 ways from Sunday. I get along with most women fine in the plutonic sense; I just can't deal with their blatant lack of ability to keep their emotions in check.
Don't tell me I am dating the wrong women either; most all of them have emotion control problems.

Crap like this is one reason why I don't date...
I can. Women can be sensitive about stuff like that...
Maybe when women can control their emotions a bit better; and stop putting so much emphasis on marriage and weddings, I'll try dating again.

Needy,
nothing gets me in the mood faster than my husband doing a load of laundry, doing the dishes, or putting the kids to bed. Take a few things off my to do list and he finds himself on my will do list.
I like how men almost have to jump through hoops to get a woman in the mood. It's like trying to keep a late 60s Jaquar E-type in an operating condition.

Ok let's clear something up right now, since you seem to have a way, way skewed perception of my situation.
I don't date, so it's not working for me; by choice though. I do not apply myself so therefore I have spent the last few years by myself. I do not apply myself on purpose, as female behavior in the dating sense gets on my god damn nerves 50 ways from Sunday. I get along with most women fine in the plutonic sense; I just can't deal with their blatant lack of ability to keep their emotions in check.
Don't tell me I am dating the wrong women either; most all of them have emotion control problems.

Crap like this is one reason why I don't date.......

Dang, you don't have to get so upset about it. Talk about emotional. :rolleyes:

...I like how men almost have to jump through hoops to get a woman in the mood. It's like trying to keep a late 60s Jaquar E-type in an operating condition.

...I think you should fix this with your wife or divorce her

are either of you in a sexual relationship?

are either of you in a sexual relationship?
Well from all the stuff that I've posted concerning dating, that you usually respond to with trolling comments, you should know full well that I am not.
What is it going to take for you to actually read and understand what someone is saying (and ask what they mean if you don't) and answer accordingly, rather than half-ass read something, then make 'jump to conclusion' remarks about their situation?

Dang, you don't have to get so upset about it. Talk about emotional.
when you fail to read my comments and start making assumptions almost to the opposite of what is acually going on with me, then yeah, you bet your ass you're going to get a condescending response from me.

...Crap like this is one reason why I don't date....

are either of you in a sexual relationship?

...What is it going to take for you to actually read and understand what someone is saying (and ask what they mean if you don't) and answer accordingly, rather than half-ass read something, then make 'jump to conclusion' remarks about their situation?....

That's exactly what I did do. I asked. I asked if you were in a sexual relationship. I didn't ask if you were dating.

That's exactly what I did do. I asked. I asked if you were in a sexual relationship. I didn't ask if you were dating.

True, but wouldn't I have made some sort if implication that I was in one, or at least came out and said it outright?

Believe me, I would LOVE to be in a relationship. When they work, there's nothing better. But they often do not.
And me getting older and more set in my ways as I do, I get less and less willing to compromise.
I can't get to any horoscope sites, as our firewall blocks it but when I get home, I'll post up the personality traits of a Capricorn (which is what I am). The description for a Capricorn describes me almost to a tee...especially where relationships are concerned.
It basically says that Caprirorns' while quite witty at times, is fairly a 'no-nonsense' kind of person when it comes to relationships. They are very calculated, determined, goal-oriented thinkers. They tend to be very independent and like to be in charge.* They hold themselves to a high standard...and expect the same from their mates; but will not do anything they wouldn't ask of their mates either. They are demanding and expect a lot, but they tend to give that much back and quite often more.
They tend to have very few friends but are intensely loyal to those they have; including significant others. Capricorns also mate for life.

Orly, that should shed some light on why I frown on dating women that are moody, bitchy, can't keep their emotions in check, and like to be bossy.

*That's partially true. While I'm not on a power trip and don't like to boss other people around like that, on the flipside, I am quite apprehensive in letting people bark orders at me. Any woman who goes off on me like I've seen some women go off on their husbands/boyfriends, will get that attitude thrown right back at her. However, if she's sweet and doesn't talk down to me, I will treat her like a queen.

Sorry for the tangient.
Anyway OP, this issue of yours is going to either have to be addressed somehow, or you will just have to suck it up and deal with it. As I've mentioned, far too many couples do not put enough emphasis/importance on sexual compatibility. I'm sorry but if my SO's libido drops or changes from when we first started dating, it may be time to call it quits.

"What about when you two get older and can't have sex anymore?"
-well, how about we cross that bridge when we come to it, and in the meantime while we are still young enough to have sex and enjoy it, let's go do it.

Maybe when women can control their emotions a bit better; and stop putting so much emphasis on marriage and weddings, I'll try dating again.

I wish you were my age, and living over here.

I wish you were my age, and living over here.

??? so you could deliver a round house bone crunching kick to his face or to date him because you think you aren't emotional?:confused:

??? so you could deliver a round house bone crunching kick to his face or to date him because you think you aren't emotional?:bravo:

??? so you could deliver a round house bone crunching kick to his face or to date him because you think you aren't emotional?:confused:

It would have to be the latter. No woman is going to take a swing at me (with hand or foot) to where I just stand there and allow her to.

I like how men almost have to jump through hoops to get a woman in the mood. It's like trying to keep a late 60s Jaquar E-type in an operating condition.

Especially the electrical system! :eek: Looks great on the outside but there's a wiring problem inside, as with some women.;)

Mike... I wouldn't listen to much of what Orleander is saying. She seems to think she is the expert on relationships, sex....blah blah. You shouldn't let her get to you so much.
Not to mention, she just likes to push peoples buttons.

Considering her husband is still buying her jewelry on every occasion although she has STRESSED, YELLED at him not to, says something right there. Either he is a real idiot or just doesn't give a shit what she wants.
Considering she calls her husband at work to bitch him out because he didn't shovel off her car, tells me he is a wuss. Most men would put a stop to little woman calling them at work to bitch them out over trivial things. She keeps saying that his Power is sexy..:shrug: From what she tells us, it sounds like she wears the Spongebob pants in that house. Maybe she doesn't get the fact that not everyone is willing to just settle. Think about it, how many good things does she have to say about him vs bitching about him? As for their sex life she keeps throwing into conversation, who gives a shit. We all have sex....it's not a big deal. It is like she has to keep pushing in our faces that she is still having sex. :bugeye: The more she keeps talking about it, the more I think it is just the opposite. Nietzsche said a while back to me, Thank God I am not married to someone like that!

I am no expert on relationships, since I had one failed marriage. I think she did too didn't she?
I think I have learned a lot going into this relationship though. We have been together for over 6 yrs now. We don't plan on getting married and it has nothing to do with a lack of commitment. We are happy just the way things are.

Split thread from Should I try to reduce my libido, and if so, how? (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=90290)

Good luck with that. I'm 36 and my libido has not dropped off a bit since I was in HS.
Luckily I'm not married. And until I find a woman that has a libido that matches mine (and one that I know whose libido won't diminish drastically all of a sudden), I will remain single.
I find that entirely too many people don't think about the importance of compatible libidos, and I don't know why. There are enough people in the world that you can afford to be a bit more selective with what you want out of your partner.

Now to address this libido thing. I guarantee you that if you ever have kids, your libido will change. When you have a house, job and kids to take care of, you are tired at the end of the night. You just want to get in bed and get a good nights sleep, sex is the last thing on your mind. It also isn't as spontaneous as when you were single when you have kids running around.

??? so you could deliver a round house bone crunching kick to his face or to date him because you think you aren't emotional?:confused:

No dammit, because I like him.

He didn't say he required women to be non emotional. He just doesn't like women taking their crap out on him, which most humans generally don't.

Now to address this libido thing. I guarantee you that if you ever have kids, your libido will change. When you have a house, job and kids to take care of, you are tired at the end of the night. You just want to get in bed and get a good nights sleep, sex is the last thing on your mind. It also isn't as spontaneous as when you were single when you have kids running around.
Shorty,

I do not doubt you for one second. I have a house, a job and three kids (that have four feet and bark). While those kids are nowhere near the responsibility of human kids, I have a small idea of what you are talking about.
But, sex is an integral part of a relationship. You have to make time for it regardless or it's going to put a huge strain on it.
Changing the oil in your car is vital to its performance. You're supposed to change it every 3,000-5,000 miles. Can it go longer? Sure it can. I've seen cars go for way over 10,000 miles w/o an oil change. The car still functions, but I guarantee it's not functioning at optimal levels and if you go for much longer w/o one, the engine will eventually seize up and that will be it.
And I'm sure my libido is a bit higher than normal because I don't have a human outlet for it. I'm sure if I were in a relationship getting sex, it wouldn't be so bad.

No dammit, because I like him.

He didn't say he required women to be non emotional. He just doesn't like women taking their crap out on him, which most humans generally don't
Thanks for the support.

But what I said was, I require my women to keep their emotions in check, not be entirely non-emotional.
What you fail to see Orly, it's blatantly obvious is that emotions have caused people to do outlandish, stupid, crazy, retarded shit.

Here's an example of a woman who can't keep her emotions in check...and subsequently let's them ruin her.
Woman meets man. Man is handsome and charming. Man also has no job, lives with his parents and is a womanizer.
But since with her emotions and the way she feels about him, she dates him. And surprisingly enough it ends badly. She devotes her time to him, encourages him to get a job (he doesnt'). He doesn't really treat her that well outside of the bedroom, and eventually winds up cheating on her.
Now woman has a bad opinion of guys. She wonders why guys are like that (even though not all of them are) when it's her fault to begin with.

So Orly, would a case like this (and there are plenty of them) be 'woman's intuition is a myth' or the woman didn't listen to her intuition? Either way it's on the woman.

Here's an example of a woman keeping her emotions in check.
Woman meets same man. She still likes him and finds him sexually attractive. However, given his situation and her observation of it, her logic takes over and tells her that this is not a man suitable for a relationship.

There are other examples of keeping your emotions in check as well.
Like during PMS, we know you ladies are going through some crap, but there is no reason to take your bitchiness out on us. If you're going to be bitchy, check your emotions and take your ass to the back room or somewhere else you can be by yourself and leave us alone. I've been in super bitchy moods before and I've told my g/f, 'I'm going to go in the back room for a while. I need some time alone.'
Orly, you seem to know that all men want to get laid. Well, let me clear you in on something, all men dislike bitchy behavior too.

...Orly, you seem to know that all men want to get laid. Well, let me clear you in on something, all men dislike bitchy behavior too.

I don't believe that.
I mean come on. Didn't you see the bitchy girls in high school with boys clamoring for their attention, while the nice girls were ignored. It was the same way with guys. Girls wanted the bad boy and the nice guys were just friends.

I don't believe that.
I mean come on. Didn't you see the bitchy girls in high school with boys clamoring for their attention, while the nice girls were ignored. It was the same way with guys. Girls wanted the bad boy and the nice guys were just friends.

Sorry, I should have elaborated.
That's more of a challenge/thrill of the chase thing.
I was talking about more in the farther along in the dating/relationship sense.
I meant, no self-respecting guy in his right mind wants to deal with bitchy behavior day in and day out. The only guys who will put up with that crap are the guys who 1. can't get any better, and take what they can get 2. have no self-esteem.

I mean even I will concede that the bitchy girls were fun...but only for awhile. To me bitchy girls are absolutely useless as girlfirends (but fun as hell for a sex buddy).
I would take a nice girl over a bitchy girl anyday of the week. But since I tend to reciprocate the attitude a girl shows me, I usually wound up with the bitchy girls because I acted like a 'bad boy' around them, and acted like the nice guy around the nice girls.

Sorry, I should have elaborated.
That's more of a challenge/thrill of the chase thing.
I was talking about more in the farther along in the dating/relationship sense.
I meant, no self-respecting guy in his right mind wants to deal with bitchy behavior day in and day out. The only guys who will put up with that crap are the guys who 1. can't get any better, and take what they can get 2. have no self-esteem.
I mean even I will concede that the bitchy girls were fun...but only for awhile. To me bitchy girls are absolutely useless as girlfirends (but fun as hell for a sex buddy).
I would take a nice girl over a bitchy girl anyday of the week. But since I tend to reciprocate the attitude a girl shows me, I usually wound up with the bitchy girls because I acted like a 'bad boy' around them, and acted like the nice guy around the nice girls.

agreed. And that's how it works for women as well.

I don't believe that.
I mean come on. Didn't you see the bitchy girls in high school with boys clamoring for their attention, while the nice girls were ignored. It was the same way with guys. Girls wanted the bad boy and the nice guys were just friends.

Ditto. Bitchy behaviour seems to be considered more of a come on than being the nice girl.

I don't believe that.
I mean come on. Didn't you see the bitchy girls in high school with boys clamoring for their attention, while the nice girls were ignored. It was the same way with guys. Girls wanted the bad boy and the nice guys were just friends.

Ah, the idiocies of the youth.

No Orly, the bitches were bitches and were ignored, except by the idiots who clamored for them. The rest of us had a good time with one another.

Were you one of the bitches?

Ah, the idiocies of the youth.

No Orly, the bitches were bitches and were ignored, except by the idiots who clamored for them. The rest of us had a good time with one another.

Were you one of the bitches?

no, were you one of the idiots?
And I wish I would have been one of the bitches. They had a far better time in high school than I did.

Ah, the idiocies of the youth.

No Orly, the bitches were bitches and were ignored, except by the idiots who clamored for them. The rest of us had a good time with one another.

Were you one of the bitches?

She used to go to beauty pageants. What do you think??

She used to go to beauty pageants. What do you think??

I didn't just go. I won. :p
And what is the correlation? Why do you think pageant = bitch?

She used to go to beauty pageants. What do you think??

That explains a lot.

I didn't just go. I won.

And, that explains it all. :D

It wasn't like it was Hooters contest. It was a Mrs contest. Me and all those other Michigan married Moms.
I guess they did think I was a bitch. I wouldn't do that group prayer hug thing. (As if God had a favorite)

I didn't just go. I won. :p
And what is the correlation? Why do you think pageant = bitch?

Go watch Miss Congeniality and that movie with Kirsten Dunst and Denise Richards....the one about those two fighting over who is hotter, and the better pageant queen.

Yeah, beauty pageant women aren't bitches or full of themselves by any means.
:rolleyes:

Go watch Miss Congeniality and that movie with Kirsten Dunst and Denise Richards....the one about those two fighting over who is hotter, and the better pageant queen.

Yeah, beauty pageant women aren't bitches or full of themselves by any means.
:rolleyes:

Yes, movies don't lie. That's exactly how it is. :rolleyes: Were there any pillow fights in skimpy nighties? We do that as well. All women do.

Yes, movies don't lie. That's exactly how it is. :rolleyes: Were there any pillow fights in skimpy nighties? We do that as well. All women do.
I wasn't talking about the slumber parties or pillow fights. We all know that's total hollywood b/s.
I was talking about the bitchiness/cattiness and their overly competitiveness.
And if you don't think women can be immature catty bitches, you are a dumbass.

And if you don't think women can be immature catty bitches, you are a dumbass.

You're really perceptive, girls must be falling all over each other trying to get their hands on you. :p

...And if you don't think women can be immature catty bitches, you are a dumbass.


I know you are, but what am I. :p
namecalling? That's what you have sunk to? Overly emotional again. <sigh>

You're really perceptive, girls must be falling all over each other trying to get their hands on you. :p

Yeah, with a hammer or shotgun in those hands. :D

I was thinking sticks and stones.

I know you are, but what am I. :p
Yeah, OK Pee Wee.


namecalling? That's what you have sunk to? Overly emotional again. <sigh>
I am quite amused at you thinking you can tell how someone is feeling by reading what they type into a message board.

And I said 'if....., you are a dumbass'
So I'll reiterate. If you think women aren't catty, then you are a dumbass.
If you do indeed realize that women are catty, then I'll say that you aren't quite as stupid and ignorant as I originally thought you were.

Yeah, with a hammer or shotgun in those hands.
Come on over. I'd have no problem dropping a bitch to the ground dead if she came at me with a weapon.
Come at me like you are a man, then expect me to defend myself like one.

And I loooove how you women think you can physically retailate to a verbal attack.

...Come on over. I'd have no problem dropping a bitch to the ground dead if she came at me with a weapon.
Come at me like you are a man, then expect me to defend myself like one.

And I loooove how you women think you can physically retailate to a verbal attack.

Yeah Sam!!! Put down those manly sticks and stones before Mike drops you to the ground dead.

until I find a woman that has a libido that matches mine (and one that I know whose libido won't diminish drastically all of a sudden), I will remain single.
I find that entirely too many people don't think about the importance of compatible libidos, and I don't know why. There are enough people in the world that you can afford to be a bit more selective with what you want out of your partner.Good luck finding a nymphomaniac! I think a man would need 3 or 4 wives for their aggregate libido to match his. Look at Solomon, considered to be the wisest of men, he had 700 wives (but that still wasn't enought for him) and 300 concubines. He could have sex 3 times a day and never see the same woman more than once a year!

Regarding the female libido dropping off after marriage, I'm reminded of a joke:
A woman and a man are standing at the alter about to get married. The man is thinking to himself, "All right! Now I can have sex whenever I want!" Meanwhile, the woman is thinking, "All right! Now that I'm getting married, I never have to have sex again!"

...Regarding the female libido dropping off after marriage, ...

Mine dropped off drastically for about 3 years after child birth. I was just so dang tired. And the longer I went without the more I didn't care if I ever did it again.
There were some battles over it, but we got through it. It was hard for my husband not to take it personally, but I finally got him to realize it was me and not him.

Good luck finding a nymphomaniac! I think a man would need 3 or 4 wives for their aggregate libido to match his. Look at Solomon, considered to be the wisest of men, he had 700 wives (but that still wasn't enought for him) and 300 concubines. He could have sex 3 times a day and never see the same woman more than once a year!

Regarding the female libido dropping off after marriage, I'm reminded of a joke:
A woman and a man are standing at the alter about to get married. The man is thinking to himself, "All right! Now I can have sex whenever I want!" Meanwhile, the woman is thinking, "All right! Now that I'm getting married, I never have to have sex again!"

Mad,
Why do you think I'm still single at 36?
Hint: it's not because I lack the abilty to talk to/land a woman.

My mom was telling me this a few months ago...
She was telling me that she was complaining to Billy (my stepdad) that I had not yet made her any grandchildren.
She said Billy responded with, 'Wanda, you know damn well that Mike has been on his own for too long to allow some woman to tell him what to do.'
He hit the nail right on the head. My mom has not mentioned grandchildren once since then.

This should explain it:
If I'm going to not be able to have sex when I want, I'm going to not be able to have sex when I want...by myself and on my own terms.

Mine dropped off drastically for about 3 years after child birth. I was just so dang tired. And the longer I went without the more I didn't care if I ever did it again.
There were some battles over it, but we got through it. It was hard for my husband not to take it personally, but I finally got him to realize it was me and not him.
Then I guess you can also be too tired to:
-get your children ready for school in the mornings
-cook dinner
-do laundry
And I meant that towards both of you. I wasn't hinting that those chores were for women only. I was trying to iterate that even if you're too tired, some things still have to get done regardless.
Sorry, but IMO, sex is a very important part of a relationship. If it wasn't that important to your guy, then as you say, there would not have been 'some battles over it'.

The fact that it was you and not him does nothing to solve his desires for sex.

And you ladies wonder why guys cheat all the time.

Then I guess you can also be too tired to:
-get your children ready for school in the mornings 3 yr olds don't go to school.
-cook dinner a chore. You want to make sex a chore on teh list. I can lay there while he does his thing. Do guy s really want women to think of sex and just another chore?
-do laundry I don't do laundry
And I meant that towards both of you. I wasn't hinting that those chores were for women only. I was trying to iterate that even if you're too tired, some things still have to get done regardless.
Sorry, but IMO, sex is a very important part of a relationship. If it wasn't that important to your guy, then as you say, there would not have been 'some battles over it'.

The fact that it was you and not him does nothing to solve his desires for sex.

And you ladies wonder why guys cheat all the time. No, we don't wonder. We know people away their family for a piece of ass. Its sad how many regret it though. .

My husband has never been one to act like a child and throw a temper tantrum if he doesn't get laid. LOL, that would be me. :D

Mad,
Why do you think I'm still single at 36?
Hint: it's not because I lack the abilty to talk to/land a woman.

My mom was telling me this a few months ago...
She was telling me that she was complaining to Billy (my stepdad) that I had not yet made her any grandchildren.
She said Billy responded with, 'Wanda, you know damn well that Mike has been on his own for too long to allow some woman to tell him what to do.'
He hit the nail right on the head. My mom has not mentioned grandchildren once since then.
While the issue of sex drive imbalance is a pain, especially after marriage. There are still other benefits to marriage. Children, for one thing. While they certainly are a pain in the ass a lot of the time, I think you may regret never having children as you grow older (it's still not too late). Imagine yourself an old man, no living relatives, no one who cares about you or to help you. I'd advise you to find some chick and give, at the very least, a relationship a try again.
If I'm going to not be able to have sex when I want, I'm going to not be able to have sex when I want...by myself and on my own terms.You think married men don't jack off? LOL Women often say things like what Shorty here says:
Now to address this libido thing. I guarantee you that if you ever have kids, your libido will change. When you have a house, job and kids to take care of, you are tired at the end of the night. You just want to get in bed and get a good nights sleep, sex is the last thing on your mind. It also isn't as spontaneous as when you were single when you have kids running around.Untrue. Men are never too tired for sex (except, maybe, when they're really, really sick). You're describing what happens to women after marriage which is the cause of much aggrevation to us men and the reason the porn industry is so successful.

My husband has never been one to act like a child and throw a temper tantrum if he doesn't get laid. LOL, that would be me. :D

You missed the point.
-while 3 year olds don't go to school, they either have to go to daycare (which you still have to get them ready for) or they stay with you all day (in which case you damn sure can't be too tired for)
-dinner isn't a chore, it's a necessity. Go a few days w/o food.

No, guys don't want women to think of sex as a chore. Well some guys might because those guys probably only think of themselves.
I personally do not want to sleep with a woman that does not want to sleep with me. BUT, when a woman doesn't want to or feel like having sex for whatever reason, for a prolonged amount of time, I see that as a problem.

While the issue of sex drive imbalance is a pain, especially after marriage. There are still other benefits to marriage. Children, for one thing. While they certainly are a pain in the ass a lot of the time, I think you may regret never having children as you grow older (it's still not too late). Imagine yourself an old man, no living relatives, no one who cares about you or to help you. I'd advise you to find some chick and give, at the very least, a relationship a try again.
I've explained this before but it looks like I'll have to explain it again.
Mad, I'm very set in my ways, and can be very stubborn sometimes.
I've already accepted and embraced the fact that I will indeed die alone.
I would rather die alone than have to make so many compromises.

I've been in situations before where I've had to settle and make compromises; during those times I was never happy and quite irritable.
I'd rather have nothing at all than to settle for less than what I want.

As for sex, as long as I'm healthy and virile enough to have it, I will put a huge emphasis on it. Is it the only thing that is important to me, not at all.
Example, an engine is a hugely important piece of an automobile, but it's not the only important piece.
Once I get older and think about sex less and become unable to have it, then and only then will I reduce the emphasis on it.



You think married men don't jack off? LOL Women often say things like what Shorty here says:
Untrue. Men are never too tired for sex (except, maybe, when they're really, really sick). You're describing what happens to women after marriage which is the cause of much aggrevation to us men and the reason the porn industry is so successful.
Like I mentioned before, if I'm going to be sexless, I'm going to be sexless ON MY OWN TERMS.
I like my life the way it is; the freedom and spontaneity, and if having a woman is going to make all that change drastically, then I'll stay where I am thanks.
However, if a woman understands where I'm coming from and how I think and is still willing to work around those, then I'll consider her a keeper and treat her like a freakin queen.
Some idiots on here (you know who you are) think that just because I won't put up with crap, that I am automatically a jerk that mistreats every woman he meets. That is not the case.

Untrue. Men are never too tired for sex (except, maybe, when they're really, really sick). You're describing what happens to women after marriage which is the cause of much aggrevation to us men and the reason the porn industry is so successful.

Yeah I guess I was.
Men are never too tired for sex. You are right, I am wrong....you gonna spank me now? :p

Like I mentioned before, if I'm going to be sexless, I'm going to be sexless ON MY OWN TERMS.
I like my life the way it is; the freedom and spontaneity, and if having a woman is going to make all that change drastically, then I'll stay where I am thanks.
However, if a woman understands where I'm coming from and how I think and is still willing to work around those, then I'll consider her a keeper and treat her like a freakin queen.
Some idiots on here (you know who you are) think that just because I won't put up with crap, that I am automatically a jerk that mistreats every woman he meets. That is not the case.

See, I have a slightly different take on it.

Women expect men to change for them, and men do on the premise that it will get them laid. And in the short term, it does and everyone is happy and satisfied. But when women want their men to change more and more, throughout the courtship, it gets harder and harder for men to change and the space between the two widens. If a man is a pansy, and changes everything they want to keep getting laid... then that's on them and I feel sorry for them. She wants him to help out more around the house, she wants him to dress different, to act different, to grow up, to lose his friends she doesn't like, to go where she wants to go... etc. A lot of men give in, just to keep having sex. And they are fairly happy because they are having sex, but they aren't really the same guy anymore... and that is really sad. And if the woman doesn't like him at the end of all the changes, she finds someone else too and he's left finding out who he really is again. Because men have such a strong sexual drive, they let themselves be treated that way. Mike has chosen not to, and that's not sexist... it's logical and smart.

Rarely, you will find two people who care about each other, respect each other for who they are, not try to change or fix each other and get sex on the side as a huge bonus... these are the marriages that last forever because they are built on respect, not sex.

When sex becomes to only thing you have left to talk about/do, you are already too far gone and unhappier than you realise you really are.

Very good post, I agree with a lot of what you are saying. :thumbsup:

you gonna spank me now? :p

Oh! Pick me! Pick me! Pick me!

Yeah I guess I was.
Men are never too tired for sex. You are right, I am wrong....you gonna spank me now? :p


Don't tease us, Shorty. Grrrrr!:D

See, I have a slightly different take on it.
I dunno. From what you've listed below, it seems that's right about how I take it too...see below for the rest of my response.

Women expect men to change for them, and men do on the premise that it will get them laid. And in the short term, it does and everyone is happy and satisfied.
I don't doubt that for one second, but it's kinda ironic given that it's common knowledge that we are who we are and we don't change, yet women still expect us to jump through hoops, and aren't willing to give back at least what they expect.

But when women want their men to change more and more, throughout the courtship, it gets harder and harder for men to change and the space between the two widens. If a man is a pansy, and changes everything they want to keep getting laid... then that's on them and I feel sorry for them. She wants him to help out more around the house, she wants him to dress different, to act different, to grow up, to lose his friends she doesn't like, to go where she wants to go... etc.
I've sent a few girls on their way because that's exactly what they expected.


A lot of men give in, just to keep having sex. And they are fairly happy because they are having sex, but they aren't really the same guy anymore... and that is really sad.
It's not just sad, it throws off the dating curve substantially. That's the kind of behavior in men that enables women to act the way they do. I want to find all the guys who act like that and bitchslap some sense into them.


And if the woman doesn't like him at the end of all the changes, she finds someone else too and he's left finding out who he really is again. Because men have such a strong sexual drive, they let themselves be treated that way. Mike has chosen not to, and that's not sexist... it's logical and smart.
Funny how Orly/Sam/Luci fail miserably to see that.
Lieb, are you sure you're not a guy? You responses indicate waaaaaaay too much rationality and common sense. Haha!

Rarely, you will find two people who care about each other, respect each other for who they are, not try to change or fix each other and get sex on the side as a huge bonus... these are the marriages that last forever because they are built on respect, not sex.
I will never be in a relationship built on sex. You can't build a relationship on just sex anyway. Otherwise you two are just sex buddies.

When sex becomes to only thing you have left to talk about/do, you are already too far gone and unhappier than you realise you really are.
agreed

Good luck finding a nymphomaniac! I think a man would need 3 or 4 wives for their aggregate libido to match his. Look at Solomon, considered to be the wisest of men, he had 700 wives (but that still wasn't enought for him) and 300 concubines. He could have sex 3 times a day and never see the same woman more than once a year!

Regarding the female libido dropping off after marriage, I'm reminded of a joke:
A woman and a man are standing at the alter about to get married. The man is thinking to himself, "All right! Now I can have sex whenever I want!" Meanwhile, the woman is thinking, "All right! Now that I'm getting married, I never have to have sex again!"

Bollocks. Women like sex as much as men do, though they do tend to be cyclical with their sex drive whereas a man's stays at the same level.

It's just that as a society we don't like that idea. We like to see women as tame creatures who just want to nurture something.

Why do you keep portraying women as love-oriented and not sex-oriented, as men as the other way around? Most humans want both sex and love....

Untrue. Men are never too tired for sex (except, maybe, when they're really, really sick).

That's funny. My boyfriend will agree to have sex when he's not even really awake. But it's no fun for me if he's sleepy. :D

Sex while still in a semi dream state would actually be great....

Sex while still in a semi dream state would actually be great....

Maybe for the one dreaming... but for the one who is awake...

Yes I see how you mean....I'll make a note to myself to have sex when lucid..

Yeah I guess I was.
Men are never too tired for sex. You are right, I am wrong....you gonna spank me now? :p
I would, but it's getting late and I'm afraid you might be too tired............

Bollocks. Women like sex as much as men do, though they do tend to be cyclical with their sex drive whereas a man's stays at the same level.
And that's the problem VI. Women are unable to separate sex from emotions so therefore their sexual arousal, or lack thereof is tied to their mood.

It's just that as a society we don't like that idea. We like to see women as tame creatures who just want to nurture something.
No, I think it's more of society wants to see women not go out and sleep with everyone. However society does not frown quite as much on men doing the same thing.
I for one don't want a tame woman. I want a woman that will wear me out something fierce in bed, then run into the kitchen, come back with a sammich and say, 'here, eat this.' That woman will have a kept man.
But I guess it just boils down to compatibility. If you get one partner with a high sex drive and the other does not, they are either going to have to go find someone with a matching libido, or the one with the high sex drive is going to have to deal with not getting as much sex as they want from the person they are currently with.
I have a fairly high libido, so I see no point in being with a woman who doesn't want to have sex as much as I do. It's like I've said, if I'm going to not be able to get as much sex as I want, it will be on my terms. If that means being alone, so be it.

Why do you keep portraying women as love-oriented and not sex-oriented, as men as the other way around? Most humans want both sex and love....
Because most all women are emotional-based thinkers, and therefore are indeed more love oriented.
Quite a few self-respecting guys will still sleep with a woman on the first date. Most all self-respecting women will not sleep with a guy on the first date, even if she likes him a whole lot.

...Quite a few self-respecting guys will still sleep with a woman on the first date. Most all self-respecting women will not sleep with a guy on the first date....

what makes the man self-respecting but not the woman? :shrug:

what makes the man self-respecting but not the woman? :shrug:

I do believe I labelled both the man and woman self-respecting in my comparison.
What do you mean by your question?

I would, but it's getting late and I'm afraid you might be too tired............

HA HA!!! Good one!

I for one don't want a tame woman. I want a woman that will wear me out something fierce in bed, then run into the kitchen, come back with a sammich and say, 'here, eat this.' That woman will have a kept man

Kinda like a dog that runs and gets a stick. Very wild.

I do believe I labelled both the man and woman self-respecting in my comparison.
What do you mean by your question?

Oh, I guess I mis-understood. So both self-respecting sexes have sex on the first date?

Women expect men to change for them, and men do on the premise that it will get them laid. And in the short term, it does and everyone is happy and satisfied.

Women change for men just as much!!i've seen friends drop friends their boy doesn't like, i've seen alternative girls dress preppy because their man once complemented something and i've seen so many girls stop clubbing etc. because their guy explains why he thinks its unattractive.

a lot of people from both sexes lose their identities in the weird world of relationships and it's not the other party's fault. in my experience people GROW OUT of this. they make the same mistake in one or two serious relationships and then learn to keep their friends and be themselves, and find someone who likes them for themselves.

i guess if being yourself leads to no luck with the ladies then "yourself" is probably not that likeable :)

...I for one don't want a tame woman. I want a woman that will wear me out something fierce in bed, then run into the kitchen, come back with a sammich and say, 'here, eat this.' That woman will have a kept man....

what if she wants you to run into the kitchen and make a sammich? ;)

...i guess if being yourself leads to no luck with the ladies then "yourself" is probably not that likeable :)

That sounds logical.

what if she wants you to run into the kitchen and make a sammich? ;)

most women would tell him to go away!! but not so politly

i guess if being yourself leads to no luck with the ladies then "yourself" is probably not that likeable :)

Yes, and surely they should change because that is what's important. Quick, all you men have to conform to make yourself more likeable if you want to get a girl. That sounds logical. :rolleyes:

most women would tell him to go away!! but not so politly


I think they would say 'where's my money' :D
no offense Mike.

I think they would say 'where's my money' :D
no offense Mike.

Don't you mean "That'll cost extra sugarcheeks " :D

Yes, and surely they should change because that is what's important. Quick, all you men have to conform to make yourself more likeable if you want to get a girl. That sounds logical.

first of all my main point is that the phenomenon of changing for a partner is not limited by sex.

i'm not saying they should change who they are - i believe the opposite.
however
i was just pointing out that you can't blame anybody for not accepting a pratt/b*tch/chauvinist/drunkard/slob/bore as our lord god saviour above made them.

what if she wants you to run into the kitchen and make a sammich? ;)

If she has shown anytime in the past that she is willing to go get me a sammich, and has otherwise worn me out then yes I would. I will not ask something of someone that I'm not willing to do myself.

Orly, I may have some expectations a bit stringent by most's standards, but I'm willing to give back all that and more if they are met. It's unfortunate you are not smart/perceptive/attentive enough to see that I'm not one-sided. But then again, with your narrow point of view on most everything, I'm not surprised.

most women would tell him to go away!!
Too bad you won't go away. Do you and Orly share a brain? :rolleyes:

Usually I run and make him a sammich before, so he is full of energy. I even go beyond and bring a drink with it.
Damn I am a good woman!!!! :D

Too bad you won't go away. Do you and Orly share a brain? :rolleyes:

I think she got her brains fucked out by all those bosses.

I am so glad I made it through puberty with all my rationality, logical thinking and clear reasoning intact. Seems like it was a very rare occurance indeed, a miracle even. Maybe there is a God after all...

Just because you don't agree with his methods, doesn't mean he's wrong. I see nothing wrong with his logic at all, but I do see a problem with the posse mentality going on in this thread. It's not like he stole your tampons... take a few midol and get some rest before you keep accusing everyone else of being emotional without taking a good look in the mirror first.

And yes, that's a sexist statement, but look at the way you are all acting just because he won't be anyone's sex slave or let any woman drag him around on a leash like you all have your collective spouses on. I hate being classified as a "woman" with women like this around. It does explain why I have to work so hard to break through the stereotypes though.

If she has shown anytime in the past that she is willing to go get me a sammich, and has otherwise worn me out then yes I would. I will not ask something of someone that I'm not willing to do myself.

Orly, I may have some expectations a bit stringent by most's standards, but I'm willing to give back all that and more if they are met. It's unfortunate you are not smart/perceptive/attentive enough to see that I'm not one-sided. But then again, with your narrow point of view on most everything, I'm not surprised.


Too bad you won't go away. Do you and Orly share a brain? :rolleyes:


LOL, Mike I don't doubt for a minute that you would if she had. But what if she asked you first? If she never had and she asked.
And I didn't mean offense by asking if you would. Its not like I said "You lazy ass bastard! She's not your slave, get your own damn sammich!" :p

I am so glad I made it through puberty with all my rationality, logical thinking and clear reasoning intact. Seems like it was a very rare occurance indeed, a miracle even. Maybe there is a God after all...

Just because you don't agree with his methods, doesn't mean he's wrong. I see nothing wrong with his logic at all, but I do see a problem with the posse mentality going on in this thread. It's not like he stole your tampons, take a midol and get some rest before you keep accusing everyone else of being emotional without taking a good look in the mirror first.

Some ppl would rather like in Orleanders case, marry her boss then constantly keep complaining about him on the internet. Ever see her thread on My Husband the Idiot ? (there are others too)
Maybe some ppl would rather not settle in their lives and end up complaining about the partner they picked. Maybe they don't want to end up getting divorced numerous times, and would rather just wait for the best fit. Some of us may call that too picky, but it's not our life so who cares.
There are some ppl that rather be single, then put up with someones shit and there are some ppl that are willing to take shit just not to be alone.


I love the insults, followed by NO OFFENSE....:bugeye: Of course they are meant to push buttons and insult, who she is kidding?

I hate being classified as a "woman" with women like this around. It does explain why I have to work so hard to break through the stereotypes though.

i can't agree with the sentiment of this statement (if i interpret it correctly). it's completely fair that your disagree with other posters, but i don't understand why you have to turn this into man v. woman. both can be idiots, and both can be idiots in a lot of the same ways.

Yes Lux, but a lot of the "women" in this thread seem to be ganging up on Mike, insulting him and being obnoxious to wards him, and it's not fair. It's not just that I disagree with what they are saying, but more with how they are saying all in unison, as if all women would agree with them.

I personally want an equal (and have one) in my life, who doesn't try to change me and I don't try to fix or change him either. It works so well, and there is a lot of compromise and love in my household. We rarely fight over dumb things, and appreciate each other very much. I fell in love with my husband because of the person he was, and we work together to get things done without being lead around by each other or having honeydew lists or nagging sessions. If he doesn't do the dishes, I do them. It's that simple and it doesn't have to have anything read into it. I don't need to know why he didn't do them, why he's got something against me or why he's being so "emotional". It's enough just to know he didn't do them.

If you are in a relationship for what you can get out of it, or have expectations of your spouse/significant other more than what they have already told you they were going to do, it's going to fail. You can't expect people to change for you, and if they do something you don't like, tell them but don't expect them to change. If they never do it again, fine... if they do do it again, walk away. it's really that simple and yet women have to go and mess it up with their labyrinthine communication skills. It always gets more complicated than it has to be because women almost never say what they mean, ask for what they need, or know what they really want. You have to understand how hard that is for a guy to deal with, and some guys would rather wait for the woman with the least amount of these "complications" and that's a fair viewpoint as well. Has nothing to do with him being "sexist" or "emotional". Has everything to do with wanting a better relationship and not wasting a lot of time on the wrong types of women. Seem pragmatic and logical to me.

Liebling,
I completely agree with the importance of acceptance in a relationship and it sounds like you have a great relationship and you should be proud of that.

i guess my underlying discomfort is our assumption of women not really communicating to a guy etc. in my experience both parties can take exactly this, relationship-killing, approach. perhaps women engage in it more but honestly i believe we are a lot more alike than often appears. anyway, just knit-picking.

Actually, I find that more women don't participate honestly and they often have hidden agendas to trip men up. It's not always intentional, but every conversation becomes a "Does this dress make me look fat" conundrum.

I find that women, more often than me, are subversive and confused about their emotions and it comes through in weird ways. Men almost always say what they mean or don't speak at all. That's my experience, and it definitely shows in this thread too. I'm not close to many women because of these things, my sisters, my mother, my cousins... all the same. Only my grandmother was different, and luckily I take after her.

I'm not saying it's all women, but most women communicate badly. Just spurting out your emotions is not communication... thinking through what you are feeling and speaking about it rationally after some thought is definitely a better way to go. A way most women don't take and women like me get accused of before people get to know me.

I think she got her brains fucked out by all those bosses.

Some ppl would rather like in Orleanders case, marry her boss then constantly keep complaining about him on the internet. Ever see her thread on My Husband the Idiot ? (there are others too)
Maybe some ppl would rather not settle in their lives and end up complaining about the partner they picked. Maybe they don't want to end up getting divorced numerous times, and would rather just wait for the best fit. Some of us may call that too picky, but it's not our life so who cares.
There are some ppl that rather be single, then put up with someones shit and there are some ppl that are willing to take shit just not to be alone.


I love the insults, followed by NO OFFENSE....:bugeye: Of course they are meant to push buttons and insult, who she is kidding?

The bitch is back. :rolleyes:

Whats your obsession with the women here, shorty?

Feeling inadequate? Nietszche got another girlfriend or something?

Liebling,
i hate to stick on this point but i guess we'll agree to disagree

i completely agree woman are often crap communicators etc. in a relationship...... i just think men are equally crap!

the number of times EX-boyfriends of mine have freaked out (often slamming doors, shouting etc.) when i cave in and answer their questions on exes or other such sensitive issues....
alot of men i've been with (and gotten the hell away from) have tried to change me with strange tricks and they really do play the psychological game - maybe they tend not to shroud it in the nobility of emotional expression but in my world they sure are capable...

maybe i've just been unlucky.:)

You can always tell the ones who devolve into childish rants, they are so self righteous!

The bitch is back. :rolleyes:

Whats your obsession with the women here, shorty?

Feeling inadequate? Nietszche got another girlfriend or something?

Yeah, I am back and sick of sitting by listening to BS.

Actually after listening to you women, he tells me all the time how lucky he is.
So I should actually be thanking you for making me look so good!

BTW: I actually see an obsession with Orleander insulting mike at every turn, but no one would say anything about that right. :rolleyes:

Women are unable to separate sex from emotions so therefore their sexual arousal, or lack thereof is tied to their mood.

I don't think it's just that, it's mainly that women have a hormonal cycle and men don't....though you are right that women tend to enmesh emotions and sex more.

Because most all women are emotional-based thinkers, and therefore are indeed more love oriented.
Quite a few self-respecting guys will still sleep with a woman on the first date. Most all self-respecting women will not sleep with a guy on the first date, even if she likes him a whole lot.

I think much of that is societal though. We don't like the idea that women are animals with a sex drive. We prefer to think of them as wanting love. Whereas for some reason we don't mind the idea that men are still animals and need sex.

I think if we had a culture that didn't men women being openly sexual, women would do it on the first date just like guys.

I for one don't want a tame woman. I want a woman that will wear me out something fierce in bed, then run into the kitchen, come back with a sammich and say, 'here, eat this.' That woman will have a kept man.


Please take a youth potion...or I'll take an aging potion...we'll live happily together and go mountain biking together....:D

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Originally Posted by shorty_37
I think she got her brains fucked out by all those bosses.
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Originally Posted by shorty_37
Some ppl would rather like in Orleanders case, marry her boss then constantly keep complaining about him on the internet. Ever see her thread on My Husband the Idiot ? (there are others too)
Maybe some ppl would rather not settle in their lives and end up complaining about the partner they picked. Maybe they don't want to end up getting divorced numerous times, and would rather just wait for the best fit. Some of us may call that too picky, but it's not our life so who cares.
There are some ppl that rather be single, then put up with someones shit and there are some ppl that are willing to take shit just not to be alone.


I love the insults, followed by NO OFFENSE.... Of course they are meant to push buttons and insult, who she is kidding?
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The bitch is back. :rolleyes:

Whats your obsession with the women here, shorty?

Feeling inadequate? Nietszche got another girlfriend or something?

If you don't quote her, I can't see it and I can ignore her FLAMING. Why is this couple so concerned about a man who was my boss who is now my husband.

If you don't quote her, I can't see it and I can ignore her FLAMING.

Understood

Why is this couple so concerned about a man who was my boss who is now my husband.

Old age.:D

Maybe Mike is on a date this friday night......

Bets anyone?

He's with his biking buddy.

/guessing

hmmm that is a pretty good guess....

What's your bet? 10.00, 20.00 confident enough for 100.00 :D

The bitch is back. :rolleyes:

Whats your obsession with the women here, shorty?

Feeling inadequate? Nietszche got another girlfriend or something?
You are about the last MF on the planet to be condescending towards anyone, sitting there on your 'high horse'.
Yeah, calling someone a bitch is just absolutely the epitome of mature 'high road' behavior.:rolleyes:


You can always tell the ones who devolve into childish rants, they are so self righteous!
That's no less childish than changing the subject when someone calls you out on something, totally evading the question like a little coward.

He's with his biking buddy.

/guessing

Close. But I'm usually with my biking buddies on Saturdays, not Friday nights.
In fact, I'm getting ready to go over to the trail/park as I'm typing.

No date last night Shorty.
There is only one woman I'm interested in and unfortunately, she works at one of the stores that I support. Since I'm fairly apprehensive about dating coworkers...that's how that will turn out.

I don't think it's just that, it's mainly that women have a hormonal cycle and men don't....though you are right that women tend to enmesh emotions and sex more.
I do understand a bit why women are a bit more emotional and I empathize with them. But that doesn't give them the right to behave however they want because of it. Women aren't weak and women aren't stupid. Which is why it pisses me off when I see a woman act like a little brat. I just want to go over to them and tell them to, 'hey, calm your ass down. You are smart enough to know better than to act like that and strong enough to keep your emotions in check....
It's the same principle as being in a work environmnent. I'm sure everyone on this board has worked with someone they couldn't stand and wanted to go off on. But you didn't. Why? Because you knew there would be severe repercussions (suspended/fired). And if you ever did have to address the person in a critical context, you would do it in a tactful manner.
If you can exercise willpower like that at work, you can do it everywhere else.

I think if we had a culture that didn't men women being openly sexual, women would do it on the first date just like guys.
I'm not sure that's a road that needs to be travelled.
If that started happening, while guys would be all for it, they may not respect the women if they did that. And if women still wanted to be in relationships, that would make it harder than ever before for them.
Now if women started getting the mentality of just having fun and not worrying about relationships, that may very well be suited for them.
I just don't think women, being the emotional thinkers they are, could handle that.

Please take a youth potion...or I'll take an aging potion...we'll live happily together and go mountain biking together....
How old are you?

You are about the last MF on the planet to be condescending towards anyone, sitting there on your 'high horse'.
Yeah, calling someone a bitch is just absolutely the epitome of mature 'high road' behavior.:rolleyes:....

Its 'calling it like you see it' honesty when you do it, but not when women do it? Isn't that a bit hypocritical.

And since you are not involved in it, can you explain why a woman would be pissed that another woman would marry someone who was their boss at one time (as in before they started dating)
Is that a dating faux-pas? Is it not self-respecting to say "I won't date you because you are my boss" :shrug:

Mike, what is your take on this dating scenario?

Close. But I'm usually with my biking buddies on Saturdays, not Friday nights.
In fact, I'm getting ready to go over to the trail/park as I'm typing.

No date last night Shorty.
There is only one woman I'm interested in and unfortunately, she works at one of the stores that I support. Since I'm fairly apprehensive about dating coworkers...that's how that will turn out.



Do you go out anywhere to meet women?

Have you ever tried meeting someone through an internet site? it's a pretty popular avenue these days and a lot of sites out there are free.

Its 'calling it like you see it' honesty when you do it, but not when women do it? Isn't that a bit hypocritical.
Nope. Because you're not taking into consideration the method in which sam made that comment. It was tactless and immature. While I never sugarcoat my critiques, I try to be at least somewhat tactful, even though it might be a bit brash, if nothing else creative.
When have you seen me resort to simple, straight forward, one word name calling?

And since you are not involved in it, can you explain why a woman would be pissed that another woman would marry someone who was their boss at one time (as in before they started dating)
Is that a dating faux-pas? Is it not self-respecting to say "I won't date you because you are my boss" :shrug:

Mike, what is your take on this dating scenario?
I wouldn't be pissed because of it, but I personally very apprehensive about dipping my pen in the company ink.
In fact, Verizon has a policy against people dating supervisors/subordinates. If that does happen, one of them has to be transferred to another store/call center/location.
I will not date coworkers for several reasons:
-if it turns sour, you still have to see them on a regular basis (and I'm a very poor sport when it comes to unions turning sour)
-I do not want to be known as 'that guy'*
-it would be more distracting than if she worked somewhere else


*any guy who dates coworkers, especially starts dating more than one, or goes from one to the next, is going to get that type of reputation really quick
IF, I did ever ask a coworker out, it would be that girl and that girl only. However that worked out, I'd probably never ask another girl from that company out again.



Do you go out anywhere to meet women?
No. I kinda really don't want to at this point. While I wouldn't mind a g/f, I'm really not unhappy with my current situtation. I might get bored sometimes but the lack of a g/f isn't the main reason for that either.

Have you ever tried meeting someone through an internet site? it's a pretty popular avenue these days and a lot of sites out there are free.
Shorty, I thought we've talked about this before. Don't you remember me talking to that girl from Birmingham the year before last?

But yes I have. It's not for me. I usually want to meet the girl asap. They want to wait. I just want to meet them to see them in person, and get a quick glimpse of how they look, talk, and carry themselves. I don't want to waste time talking online to a person should they only end up making a shitty and disappointing first impression.

Opps yeah sorry I forgot. But you could limit yourself to only meeting local women in your area. That way you could meet sooner and all that stuff. I know a couple ppl lately that found someone within 1/2 an hour from them it is working out quite well.

This is one stupid thread. OP has a libido of the Washington Monument and instead of trying to find a woman who matches that he is colibate???

Good solution!!!

P.S.: Me thinks a woman with LESS libido is better than no woman, but me is stupid...

So.. would anyone volunteer to sum up this discussion for me? It looks to me like there is a lot of ankle biting in this thread, I think it might be too much of an effort to sort the discussion from the fights.

So.. would anyone volunteer to sum up this discussion for me? It looks to me like there is a lot of ankle biting in this thread, I think it might be too much of an effort to sort the discussion from the fights.

discussion?? I thought it was pretty much all fight :poke:

Old age.:D
Would explain why they are "listening" (http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=2161979&postcount=84) to this forum.:D

Can you hear me Sam?

Hello?

Anyone hear me?

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As for this thread in general..

People.. What the hell?

You people need to get out and get lives. Cut it out already. And more importantly, grow up.

I do understand a bit why women are a bit more emotional and I empathize with them. But that doesn't give them the right to behave however they want because of it. Women aren't weak and women aren't stupid. Which is why it pisses me off when I see a woman act like a little brat. I just want to go over to them and tell them to, 'hey, calm your ass down. You are smart enough to know better than to act like that and strong enough to keep your emotions in check....
It's the same principle as being in a work environmnent. I'm sure everyone on this board has worked with someone they couldn't stand and wanted to go off on. But you didn't. Why? Because you knew there would be severe repercussions (suspended/fired). And if you ever did have to address the person in a critical context, you would do it in a tactful manner.
If you can exercise willpower like that at work, you can do it everywhere else.


I'm not sure that's a road that needs to be travelled.
If that started happening, while guys would be all for it, they may not respect the women if they did that. And if women still wanted to be in relationships, that would make it harder than ever before for them.
Now if women started getting the mentality of just having fun and not worrying about relationships, that may very well be suited for them.
I just don't think women, being the emotional thinkers they are, could handle that.


How old are you?

But that doesn't give them the right to behave however they want because of it. Women aren't weak and women aren't stupid. Which is why it pisses me off when I see a woman act like a little brat. I just want to go over to them and tell them to, 'hey, calm your ass down. You are smart enough to know better than to act like that and strong enough to keep your emotions in check....
It's the same principle as being in a work environmnent. I'm sure everyone on this board has worked with someone they couldn't stand and wanted to go off on. But you didn't. Why? Because you knew there would be severe repercussions (suspended/fired). And if you ever did have to address the person in a critical context, you would do it in a tactful manner.

Oh I totally agree, throwing a fit or taking your crap out on people is just childish. If someone pisses you off, you should use reason to explain why they pissed you off, not simply discharge.

If that started happening, while guys would be all for it, they may not respect the women if they did that.

That's weird though, why would they not respect them?

Now if women started getting the mentality of just having fun and not worrying about relationships, that may very well be suited for them.
I just don't think women, being the emotional thinkers they are, could handle that.

I think possibly they could, if we were to throw out the cultural expectations that women look for something serious while men just want to have fun.

That said, I can't speak for all women, other women may well be much more attachment orientated than me, and want something more serious than just fun.

How old are you?

I'm 18.