RickyH
05-09-07, 05:33 PM
How would some one go about relocating cannabis without.. you know, killing it. hypothetically of course. the plant may, or may not be 6 and a half weeks old.
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View Full Version : marijane RickyH 05-09-07, 05:33 PM How would some one go about relocating cannabis without.. you know, killing it. hypothetically of course. the plant may, or may not be 6 and a half weeks old. Oniw17 05-09-07, 05:55 PM Like transplanting it? or moving it in a car? leopold99 05-09-07, 06:01 PM How would some one go about relocating cannabis without.. you know, killing it. hypothetically of course. the plant may, or may not be 6 and a half weeks old. you mean to a bigger pot, or to another location? RickyH 05-09-07, 06:05 PM not that.... i'm moving it. hypothetically remember that. let's say i want to move it from the ground, where it could have accidently started growing from tossing too many seeds in the backyard... or not.. to a larger pot, so i could.. if i had a plant, move it around Oniw17 05-09-07, 06:07 PM not that.... i'm moving it. hypothetically remember that. let's say i want to move it from the ground, where it could have accidently started growing from tossing too many seeds in the backyard... or not.. to a larger pot, so i could.. if i had a plant, move it around Dig up the dirt around it, then try to get most of that dirt of with your hands so you can use good dirt. Also, hope it's a female. RickyH 05-09-07, 06:09 PM Dig up the dirt around it, then try to get most of that dirt of with your hands so you can use good dirt. Also, hope it's a female. well... if this plant, existed all the leaves on it have 7 leaves. im assuming that could mean this plant is female. but, are you sure that won't kill my non existent plant? leopold99 05-09-07, 06:18 PM not that.... i'm moving it. hypothetically remember that. let's say i want to move it from the ground, where it could have accidently started growing from tossing too many seeds in the backyard... or not.. to a larger pot, so i could.. if i had a plant, move it around you will need a 5 gallon bucket (plastic) with a large hole (about2 inches) in the bottom. place broken pieces of flower pot over the hole to keep the dirt from falling out. mix your potting soil with vermiculite in about the ratio of 3 to 1. adjust the PH of the water you use to 6.3 (slightly acidic) use miracle grow. after potting seclude the plant for 24 hours in total darkness. when growing s-l-o-w-ly (about an hour a week) adjust the light cycle from 18 hours down to where the plant starts to bud. after you get a harvest of buds increase the light to 18 hours and repeat. maintain a PH of 6.3 for best results. also keep the relative humidity down as low as possible, buy a dehumidifier and put it in the same room as the plant. 4 4foot florescent tubes will greatly aid in the growth of your plant. get tubes for growing plants "grow lights" if you live by yourself get an old refridgerator box and line the inside with aluminum foil (dull side out) put the plant, lights, dehumidifier in it for a self contained grow box. Zardozi 05-09-07, 06:23 PM be sure to mix peat moss and vermiculite in the soil to give it that extra tokh Oniw17 05-09-07, 06:27 PM That seems much better than my answer. What do the tubes do? I haven't grown weed in a while, but it's something like 7 leaves or 9 leaves. If this plant did exist, would you be planing to clone(this will help a lot) it or pinch it? RickyH 05-09-07, 06:29 PM you will need a 5 gallon bucket (plastic) with a large hole (about2 inches) in the bottom. place broken pieces of flower pot over the hole to keep the dirt from falling out. mix your potting soil with vermiculite in about the ratio of 3 to 1. adjust the PH of the water you use to 6.3 (slightly acidic) use miracle grow. after potting seclude the plant for 24 hours in total darkness. when growing s-l-o-w-ly (about an hour a week) adjust the light cycle from 18 hours down to where the plant starts to bud. after you get a harvest of buds increase the light to 18 hours and repeat. maintain a PH of 6.3 for best results. also keep the relative humidity down as low as possible, buy a dehumidifier and put it in the same room as the plant. 4 4foot florescent tubes will greatly aid in the growth of your plant. get tubes for growing plants "grow lights" if you live by yourself get an old refridgerator box and line the inside with aluminum foil (dull side out) put the plant, lights, dehumidifier in it for a self contained grow box. i got a real good feeling you've done this quite a few times. anyways, thanks for the advice. i think i could manage to do, most of it. except, define vermiculite RickyH 05-09-07, 06:31 PM That seems much better than my answer. What do the tubes do? I haven't grown weed in a while, but it's something like 7 leaves or 9 leaves. If this plant did exist, would you be planing to clone(this will help a lot) it or pinch it? i figure i'll keep it alive as long as possible. harvest it when it's ready, and allow it to grow for next season. i suppose i could plant some new seeds off the first crop. which brings a new question. anyone got harvesting tips? leopold99 05-09-07, 06:33 PM i got a real good feeling you've done this quite a few times. i never have. the above post of mine is a figment of your imagination except, define vermiculite go to where they sell gardening supplies, they'll have it. it comes in bags like potting soil. the best description of vermiculite is "a spongy substance". it aids in watering your plants. leopold99 05-09-07, 06:37 PM anyone got harvesting tips? cut the buds off and place them in brown paper bags to dry. the idea being to slow the drying process. RickyH 05-09-07, 06:40 PM i never have. the above post of mine is a figment of your imagination go to where they sell gardening supplies, they'll have it. it comes in bags like potting soil. the best description of vermiculite is "a spongy substance". it aids in watering your plants. cut the buds off and place them in brown paper bags to dry. the idea being to slow the drying process. okay. that answers a lot of questions. but leads to more. how would you go about pruning a plant, and is there a way to tell if it's ready to be pruned? one more i can think to ask is, when would you know your plant is ready for harvesting Absane 05-09-07, 06:47 PM Of course, this is a hypothetical situation. RickyH 05-09-07, 06:48 PM absolutely. i mean... c'mon, i wouldn't want to go and break some silly old laws, now would i? leopold99 05-09-07, 06:54 PM how would you go about pruning a plant, remember that all plants grow from their tips. you clip off a tip and it will get no longer, it will branch instead. you can use scissors to clip your plants. and is there a way to tell if it's ready to be pruned? when it gets too big for the box. when would you know your plant is ready for harvesting when it dies. as long as its alive you can harvest buds and leaves from it. when it dies leave it in the box to dry out or pull it up and place it in a brown paper bag to dry. adjusting the light cycle tells the plant when to bud. if it starts to bud and you don't want it to then increase the hours of light. leopold99 05-09-07, 06:58 PM absolutely. i mean... c'mon, i wouldn't want to go and break some silly old laws, now would i? when was growing indoor tomatoes illegal? RickyH 05-09-07, 07:03 PM when was growing indoor tomatoes illegal? :shrug: thanks for the advice leo, i think if my, "tomatoes" will turn out great now leopold99 05-09-07, 07:06 PM check out some books by ed rosenthal. RickyH 05-09-07, 07:14 PM http://www.green-aid.com/edrosenthal.htm i don't see anything about tomatoes :/ i knew it leo! lol spidergoat 05-09-07, 08:43 PM You won't be able to tell wether it's female until it starts to flower. You could also just take some clippings and start over from a small one using good soil. It will suffer when transplanted. RickyH 05-09-07, 09:30 PM So how can i tell if it's female, or male by the flower? probably a dumb question, but... i'm curious spidergoat 05-09-07, 09:33 PM You need to sex the plant because only the female plants produce the buds you want to smoke. If you are growing under lights you can do this by putting the plant on a light cycle of 12 hours on 12 hours off. After a week or two you will begin to see small white hairs emerging from the sacks at the base of the branches. If you see hairs coming out of the sacks you have a female. If the sacks develop but no hairs emerge you likely have a male. RickyH 05-09-07, 09:51 PM Well, if i ever come across a plant, and i happen to be using these lights, i'll certainly remember to take that into consideration. Although, what if this plant, was growing pretty fast, like... let's say it's 3ft. 5in. at 6 and a half weeks. I have heard male plants don't grow as tall, and nearly as quick. Should i dismiss those statements? spidergoat 05-09-07, 10:24 PM It's hard to say. Depends on wether it's sativa or indica. In general, hemp grows very quickly. I once visited a friend out in West Virginia, where she was renting a farm. Behind the barn, she asked if I saw anything unusual. I thought it was a tree until she pointed out the 15 foot hemp plant right next to me. leopold99 05-09-07, 10:28 PM You won't be able to tell wether it's female until it starts to flower. You could also just take some clippings and start over from a small one using good soil. It will suffer when transplanted. this why i advised to seclude the plant for 24 hours in darkness. leopold99 05-09-07, 10:32 PM Although, what if this plant, was growing pretty fast, like... let's say it's 3ft. 5in. at 6 and a half weeks. it isn't at all unusual for a plant to grow an inch a day. I have heard male plants don't grow as tall, and nearly as quick. Should i dismiss those statements? males are usually scrawnier than females. RickyH 05-10-07, 11:56 AM spidergoat It's hard to say. Depends on wether it's sativa or indica. In general, hemp grows very quickly. I once visited a friend out in West Virginia, where she was renting a farm. Behind the barn, she asked if I saw anything unusual. I thought it was a tree until she pointed out the 15 foot hemp plant right next to me. That's pretty damn tall! I've heard of plants in sweden growing 7-8 feet tall and i thought that was impressive. leopold99 “ Originally Posted by RickyH Although, what if this plant, was growing pretty fast, like... let's say it's 3ft. 5in. at 6 and a half weeks. ” it isn't at all unusual for a plant to grow an inch a day. “ I have heard male plants don't grow as tall, and nearly as quick. Should i dismiss those statements? ” males are usually scrawnier than females. so my plant (assuming it's female) could grow over 70 inches before it buds? with what you've told me, i think i could get it pretty tall. but hypothetically, lets say i ran into some new problems. i may have been trying to keep bugs off the damn plant, but they just won't die. it's like... they're hooked on the shit already. i wouldn't want to go overboard on fungicides or anything either... i may have been using some cheap garden safe chemicals, because it may have been the only fungicide i had in my backyard. how would one go about killing these bugs effectively, without causing destroying the harvest, or letting it get disease leopold99 05-10-07, 02:53 PM i may have been trying to keep bugs off the damn plant, but they just won't die. your best bet would be to bake your potting soil before use. put it in the oven and bake it for 15 minutes at 300 degrees. not all at once but a layer about 2 or 3 inches spread out over a cookie sheet. make sure you bake it all though. if your plants become infested DO NOT spray them with herbicides or fungicides. instead analyze the problem to determine what kind of bug you have and use a remedy that is non toxic. in other words do not put anything on your plants that you wouldn't put in your mouth. if you are careful with baking your soil and spraying your room you shouldn't have a pest problem. The Devil Inside 05-10-07, 03:07 PM ive grown weed in my house. ha! screw all this "hypothetical" shit. growing weed is fun. phonetic 05-10-07, 03:39 PM I know it's your (hypothetical) baby and you care for it and want to see it grow and grow, but in terms of yield, it won't be that impressive having grown outside. SWIM would like to try some lowryders. They sound quite interesting. SWIM has been enjoying codeine recently. Using co-codamol and extracting the goodies. RickyH 05-10-07, 03:53 PM your best bet would be to bake your potting soil before use. put it in the oven and bake it for 15 minutes at 300 degrees. not all at once but a layer about 2 or 3 inches spread out over a cookie sheet. make sure you bake it all though. if your plants become infested DO NOT spray them with herbicides or fungicides. instead analyze the problem to determine what kind of bug you have and use a remedy that is non toxic. in other words do not put anything on your plants that you wouldn't put in your mouth. if you are careful with baking your soil and spraying your room you shouldn't have a pest problem. done and done... i really may be getting a cookie sheet after i type this ive grown weed in my house. ha! screw all this "hypothetical" shit. growing weed is fun. you mean, growing herbal products is fun :p I know it's your (hypothetical) baby and you care for it and want to see it grow and grow, but in terms of yield, it won't be that impressive having grown outside. SWIM would like to try some lowryders. They sound quite interesting. SWIM has been enjoying codeine recently. Using co-codamol and extracting the goodies. well, i believe since i'm in texas, and it may happen to be growing where my mom once had a garden. the soil may be very fertile. would this effect it significantly in terms of yield since it wasn't in particularly bad soil. i've already bought some lights, and a pretty decent sized pot, that may be on par with what leo has told me to do now. how much will this play effect now that i may be following better guidelines to growing what could be a wonderful herb phonetic 05-10-07, 04:01 PM well, i believe since i'm in texas, and it may happen to be growing where my mom once had a garden. the soil may be very fertile. would this effect it significantly in terms of yield since it wasn't in particularly bad soil. i've already bought some lights, and a pretty decent sized pot, that may be on par with what leo has told me to do now. how much will this play effect now that i may be following better guidelines to growing what could be a wonderful herb I'm not too sure, tbh. Not an expert, but you're always gonna get better results growing under lights. I'm sure you know, but there's lots of better sites for talking about this kind of thing. If you don't, I'll give you some links if you like. In terms of the soil, the plant's grown, so I guess that's good. Generally people have a strict routine of certain high grade nutrients they administer their plants weekly/fortnightly, though, which I doubt the soil outside can match. The conditions are perfect under lighting. Exact some amount of light per day. Right amount of nutrients, etc. Outside, there's a lot of variables. Anyway. I'm no expert. leopold99 05-10-07, 04:16 PM i've already bought some lights, and a pretty decent sized pot, that may be on par with what leo has told me to do now. how much will this play effect now that i may be following better guidelines to growing what could be a wonderful herb a few more tips for you. do not smoke in the same room as your plants. devise a method to introduce carbon dioxide into the room. this can be by a store bought canister or a homemade carbon dioxide generator. do not grow your plants around anything that uses natural gas. natural gas is deadly to plants. The Devil Inside 05-10-07, 04:30 PM you mean, growing herbal products is fun :p no. i live in a country where you are allowed to grow weed. i grow weed. its fun to watch the plants develop. tablariddim 05-10-07, 04:57 PM Belgium # No amount of cannabis is legal to possess in Belgium, however possession of up to 3g of cannabis by adults, for personal use, is tolerated in Belgium. It is also said that 1 female plant is tolerated. Police will sometimes take the name of an individual in possession, but the Belgian state will not prosecute. Cholo writes that if the possession meets the informal 'personal use' criteria, the police register the offense anonymously and do not even take the individual's name. The criteria for this are include: possession of an amount that is consumable in 24 hours (usually 3 grams or less), possession of leaf or bud and not oil or other procesed product which are less tolerated; that the use is not around minors or while driving; and other factors that might indicate 'problematic use'. In practice, almost all non-problematic personal users will be registered anonymously. The criteria are described in Het Staatsblad published on June 2, 2003: http://www.staatsbladclip.be/wetten/2003/06/02/wet-2003009496.html and http://www.staatsbladclip.be/wetten/2003/06/02/wet-2003009479.html. Erowid has also been told that a new law to allow for medical use of cannabis has lead the police to be more forgiving about possession of small amounts of non-medicinal cannabis. FA tells us that there is no legal way to buy or import cannabis or its seeds. See ejustice.just.fgov.be (French only). (Thanks Cholo, CG, FA. Aug 2006 EROWID RickyH 05-10-07, 05:00 PM I'm not too sure, tbh. Not an expert, but you're always gonna get better results growing under lights. I'm sure you know, but there's lots of better sites for talking about this kind of thing. If you don't, I'll give you some links if you like. In terms of the soil, the plant's grown, so I guess that's good. Generally people have a strict routine of certain high grade nutrients they administer their plants weekly/fortnightly, though, which I doubt the soil outside can match. The conditions are perfect under lighting. Exact some amount of light per day. Right amount of nutrients, etc. Outside, there's a lot of variables. Anyway. I'm no expert. the best site i can think about that has much to do with marijuana, is erowid.com if you know any others, i'd love to read through them. I can see what you're saying about the variables being a huge factor in growing it outside. I wasn't to happy about the idea of it being outside, so i figured moving it indoors, and asking around would help get it on the right track. a few more tips for you. do not smoke in the same room as your plants. devise a method to introduce carbon dioxide into the room. this can be by a store bought canister or a homemade carbon dioxide generator. do not grow your plants around anything that uses natural gas. natural gas is deadly to plants. well if i had a plant, i'd have it in my room located in a place where it doesn't see to much people around it. nothing in my house runs off of natural gases either. but, I'm not too sure about the carbon dioxide. i think i might need better storage, and a more disposable income before i get that technical with it. by now, i would have already baked two cookie sheets matching the specifications you gave me. i have a lot more soil to go through actually, and i don't think i'll be able to do all of it, because i can't think of a way i would be able to keep this plant out of soil for very long. :confused: no. i live in a country where you are allowed to grow weed. i grow weed. its fun to watch the plants develop. which country would you be in now? and yes, you're totally right, every morning i go out and admire my (hypothetical) plant. it's truly fascinating to go out(now all i have to do is turn my head when i wake up) and see it grow so much in only a night. if i didn't have the internet, i'd have been doing this for quite some time already. phonetic 05-10-07, 05:13 PM http://www.drugs-forum.co.uk/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=27 http://forum.everyonedoesit.co.uk/ http://www.weedfarmer.com/BB/ http://www.hipforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=44 http://forum.grasscity.com/ It deserves its own branch of science lol.. RickyH 05-10-07, 05:16 PM Yea, but it'd become one of the least available jobs ever! btw thanks for the links leopold99 05-10-07, 05:52 PM by now, i would have already baked two cookie sheets matching the specifications you gave me. i have a lot more soil to go through actually, and i don't think i'll be able to do all of it, because i can't think of a way i would be able to keep this plant out of soil for very long. :confused: keep the soil you have sterilized separate from the rest and keep the non sterilized soil closed in a bag outside. the whole idea of sterilizing your soil is to kill the bugs and seeds that come with it. before planting mix enough water into it so that it clumps when sqeezed. The Devil Inside 05-10-07, 06:05 PM Belgium # No amount of cannabis is legal to possess in Belgium, however possession of up to 3g of cannabis by adults, for personal use, is tolerated in Belgium. It is also said that 1 female plant is tolerated. Police will sometimes take the name of an individual in possession, but the Belgian state will not prosecute. Cholo writes that if the possession meets the informal 'personal use' criteria, the police register the offense anonymously and do not even take the individual's name. The criteria for this are include: possession of an amount that is consumable in 24 hours (usually 3 grams or less), possession of leaf or bud and not oil or other procesed product which are less tolerated; that the use is not around minors or while driving; and other factors that might indicate 'problematic use'. In practice, almost all non-problematic personal users will be registered anonymously. The criteria are described in Het Staatsblad published on June 2, 2003: http://www.staatsbladclip.be/wetten/2003/06/02/wet-2003009496.html and http://www.staatsbladclip.be/wetten/2003/06/02/wet-2003009479.html. Erowid has also been told that a new law to allow for medical use of cannabis has lead the police to be more forgiving about possession of small amounts of non-medicinal cannabis. FA tells us that there is no legal way to buy or import cannabis or its seeds. See ejustice.just.fgov.be (French only). (Thanks Cholo, CG, FA. Aug 2006 EROWID thats pretty much on the spot. public smoking is really not tolerated, unless you are in a place where there is nobody around. basically, police dont want to waste their time with it. i live above a guy who has been a cop for 5 years, and he has never heard of anyone that was reasonable even having their weed confiscated. they wag their finger, write tickets (you have to be a huge asshole for that), or ask you to leave. in essence: use common sense. :) EmptyForceOfChi 05-10-07, 06:32 PM well if it is a female plant take cuttings to make sure it survives in some shape or form, i would transfer the plant/s into a hydroponics system personaly, a flood and drain system is quite good, http://www.hydroponicist.com/pages/images/flood-and-drain-system.jpg also pick yourself up a decent growing book to help you along the way, i used to grow weed in mass years ago, i dont anymore, http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1931160171.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg peace EmptyForceOfChi 05-10-07, 06:34 PM the devil inside, i always wanted to say this, your avatar fascinates me for some reason i cant stop looking at it, peace. RickyH 05-10-07, 09:22 PM keep the soil you have sterilized separate from the rest and keep the non sterilized soil closed in a bag outside. the whole idea of sterilizing your soil is to kill the bugs and seeds that come with it. before planting mix enough water into it so that it clumps when sqeezed. yes, but earlier i had one pot almost half full, and the other wasn't even prepared yet. i know about mixing the soil up like that, i've done that before, actually. but killing the bugs i hadn't though to ever bake soil. i was honestly about to go out and by soil that was already ready for a plant. but i kinda thought it wasn't worth all that, and just started doing it your way. around the 3-4 batch, i had the plant almost completely out of soil. so i didn't want it to die, and was wondering if there was even more damage being done to the plant. honestly, at this point, i don't know if i should scrap this current plant, since i have the materials to start all over, and make a new one. i think i'll take chi's advice and make a new plant out of it though. and about the book, i'll look for one similar to it at barnes and nobles or another book store if there isn't anything there. i'm getting pretty into growing all of this now. hypthetically of course :o EmptyForceOfChi 05-10-07, 09:28 PM a good tip also that is not in alot of grow guides is this, when you harvest a plant for bud take the whole plant out after you take cuttings, hang it upside down by the roots on a line for 24 hours or more. so the oils run down into the bud and it will be more potent, dont keep harvesting the same plant, everytime you take a cutting and grow a new plant it will increase in strength. also while drying out the actual bud in say a shoebox or something add in some flavour!, like throw in some cut lemons or some blueberrys, or anything you liek the taste and smell of, it will give your bud a distinct taste and odour, and customers like that better than planty smelling and tasting shit, peace. EmptyForceOfChi 05-10-07, 09:31 PM oh yeah and remember to germinate the seeds! so many people just throw the seeds in the soil, never do that, your plant will be weak, get some tissue paper and soak it with water, put the seed in the middle of the tissue paper, 1 seed to each blob of tissue, and keep the tissue wet constantly for a few days untill it sprouts, then plant the already sprouted seed, never just throw seeds in soil, peace. leopold99 05-10-07, 09:36 PM around the 3-4 batch, i had the plant almost completely out of soil. so i didn't want it to die, and was wondering if there was even more damage being done to the plant. honestly, at this point, i don't know if i should scrap this current plant, since i have the materials to start all over, and make a new one. you was supposed to prepare the soil and set everything up before you even unpotted the plant. so, what have you got now? a half naked plant setting halfway out of its pot? leopold99 05-10-07, 09:37 PM a good tip also that is not in alot of grow guides is this, when you harvest a plant for bud take the whole plant out after you take cuttings, hang it upside down by the roots on a line for 24 hours or more. so the oils run down into the bud and it will be more potent, there is no basis to this myth. RickyH 05-10-07, 09:43 PM a good tip also that is not in alot of grow guides is this, when you harvest a plant for bud take the whole plant out after you take cuttings, hang it upside down by the roots on a line for 24 hours or more. so the oils run down into the bud and it will be more potent, that's good advice, i will definitely do this. should i make any cuts in the stem, to bleed it out faster, or hold it in something allowing it to concentrate on any fluids leaked out by it? also while drying out the actual bud in say a shoebox or something add in some flavour!, like throw in some cut lemons or some blueberrys, or anything you liek the taste and smell of, it will give your bud a distinct taste and odour, and customers like that better than planty smelling and tasting shit, i heard something like this in the past. only as i remember it, it said you can add the flavoring into the water you give to the plant, near the flowering cycle. i was thinking about using citrus, or picking the buds with banana peals. oh yeah and remember to germinate the seeds! so many people just throw the seeds in the soil, never do that, your plant will be weak, get some tissue paper and soak it with water, put the seed in the middle of the tissue paper, 1 seed to each blob of tissue, and keep the tissue wet constantly for a few days untill it sprouts, then plant the already sprouted seed, i remember doing this in elementary to make a bean sprout, i believe it had to be in a plastic bag too, so it can hold the moisture better i'm assuming i'm a little confused about one thing though. when i take a clipping of the plant, i mix a seed in with it? i think i can manage to grow 2 plants, but that'd be pushing my resources... for now RickyH 05-10-07, 09:45 PM you was supposed to prepare the soil and set everything up before you even unpotted the plant. so, what have you got now? a half naked plant setting halfway out of its pot? at one point it did. i wasn't aware but kinda had a feeling i was doing this in the wrong order. so should i just scrap it, because i don't think this plant has much more kick in it? EmptyForceOfChi 05-10-07, 09:46 PM there is no basis to this myth. the basis to this fact is that it works, gravity and liquid, stand on your head and tell me that your blood doesent flow to your head, i used to be a grower and dealer untill i stopped for various reasons. i have experimented with countless ways of making my bud more potent and this does work, peace. RickyH 05-10-07, 09:46 PM there is no basis to this myth. maybe the nutrients from the clipping decompose into the soil, and give the plant a minor boost... but i definitely don't know that for sure.. i would want to look into it, and test it out. if i can i'll grow two plants, one with a clipping, one without. i can post the results later on down the road. leopold99 05-10-07, 09:48 PM the basis to this fact is that it works, gravity and liquid, stand on your head and tell me that your blood doesent flow to your head, i used to be a grower and dealer untill i stopped for various reasons. i have experimented with countless ways of making my bud more potent and this does work, peace. ever hear of transpiration? the THC will concentrate in the buds and leaves whether the plant is upside down or not. besides, the thc grows on the tips of little hairs, not flow in the plant. RickyH 05-10-07, 09:49 PM yea, i misread what you were responding too... disregard my last post... but i'll still do the clippings thing leopold99 05-10-07, 09:50 PM maybe the nutrients from the clipping decompose into the soil, and give the plant a minor boost... but i definitely don't know that for sure.. i would want to look into it, and test it out. if i can i'll grow two plants, one with a clipping, one without. i can post the results later on down the road. i gave you an author to look up. read everything the man published. EmptyForceOfChi 05-10-07, 09:53 PM that's good advice, i will definitely do this. should i make any cuts in the stem, to bleed it out faster, or hold it in something allowing it to concentrate on any fluids leaked out by it? i heard something like this in the past. only as i remember it, it said you can add the flavoring into the water you give to the plant, near the flowering cycle. i was thinking about using citrus, or picking the buds with banana peals. i remember doing this in elementary to make a bean sprout, i believe it had to be in a plastic bag too, so it can hold the moisture better i'm assuming i'm a little confused about one thing though. when i take a clipping of the plant, i mix a seed in with it? i think i can manage to grow 2 plants, but that'd be pushing my resources... for now take a cutting like this (its the same with all plants) http://fkultur.myweb.uga.edu/pictures/B1.jpg you dont have to put a seed in with the cutting, but you can if you want.do not bleed the stem or cut it thats not needed. there are many ways to germinate seeds the platic bag is not needed, all i used was water and tissue paper, http://www.bcseeds.com/seed_germination.htm peace. EmptyForceOfChi 05-10-07, 09:55 PM ever hear of transpiration? the THC will concentrate in the buds and leaves whether the plant is upside down or not. besides, the thc grows on the tips of little hairs, not flow in the plant. there are 2 types of buzz that you get from smoking weed, the thc crystals are just 1 source of the buzz, the thc gives you a high buzz the oils give you a low buzz, have you ever cltivated canabis oils? or hash? peace. leopold99 05-10-07, 09:57 PM at one point it did. i wasn't aware but kinda had a feeling i was doing this in the wrong order. so should i just scrap it, because i don't think this plant has much more kick in it? you can try to salvage the plant if you want. RickyH 05-10-07, 10:03 PM i gave you an author to look up. read everything the man published. i saw a few books he had listed on a few sites, but i don't know if they'll have him here. i don't even have a credit card either, so i don't know about ordering it online. like i said though, i'll keep an eye out for it, tomorrow when i head to some book stores. you dont have to put a seed in with the cutting, but you can if you want.do not bleed the stem or cut it thats not needed. there are many ways to germinate seeds the platic bag is not needed, all i used was water and tissue paper, i read through the link you sent me. i can get all of that incredibly easy. i'll keep the plant alive long enough to ensure i can get a clipping of it, and mix one with the seed. the other i wont use the clipping for. it said something about a fan too, which goes against what leopold said with the carbon monoxide, i think. EmptyForceOfChi 05-10-07, 10:03 PM do some google searches on what i have been saying, nothing that i said is a myth it is all tried and tested, i speak from experience and knowledge. peace. EmptyForceOfChi 05-10-07, 10:06 PM i used a humidifier, a carbon air filter and a few fans, some UV lights and 400 watt mercury lights, all to simulate real outdoor enviroments, peace. RickyH 05-10-07, 10:07 PM just a quick question to bypass a google search for this. with what is most likely shwag, while germinating it the way chi said should i adjust the ph levels? EmptyForceOfChi 05-10-07, 10:11 PM the ph level should be around 5.5 i think the website i gave you stated all the relevant facts for germinating. peace. RickyH 05-10-07, 10:11 PM i used a humidifier, a carbon air filter and a few fans, some UV lights and 400 watt mercury lights, all to simulate real outdoor enviroments, peace. that's a big step up from where i am at right now. i'm basically using florescent lighting fixtures (almost 4 foot long), with a cheap bulb for now. no humidifiers or carbon monoxide anything... EmptyForceOfChi 05-10-07, 10:12 PM what light cycles are you using at the moment? peace. leopold99 05-10-07, 10:13 PM the ph level should be around 5.5 i used a humidifier, i speak from experience and knowledge. sure you do. RickyH 05-10-07, 10:14 PM what light cycles are you using at the moment? peace. i was going to keep them on for around 12 hours, but now i just need to keep it alive. i will follow leos tips on the second go around at this EmptyForceOfChi 05-10-07, 10:18 PM many people keep to the 12/12 hour cycle, but with a mother plant that you are getting cuttings from sometimes it is better to go for a 18/6 cycle or even a 16/8 (highest bieng light lowest dark). i light candles near my plants aswell it helps, and also i keep bowls of water around them, for very practical reasons, also for feng shui, seriously the water and candles work wonders. peace. EmptyForceOfChi 05-10-07, 10:20 PM sure you do. want to share why having a humidifier is bad? and why soil ph levels of 5.5 is also bad? peace. leopold99 05-10-07, 10:26 PM want to share why having a humidifier is bad? and why soil ph levels of 5.5 is also bad? peace. i can tell you right now that you haven't a clue as to what you are talking about chi. if we weren't talking about pot i would have reported you for trolling. edit: and another one bite the dust. EmptyForceOfChi 05-10-07, 10:30 PM i can tell you right now that you haven't a clue as to what you are talking about chi. if we weren't talking about pot i would have reported you for trolling. edit: and another one bite the dust. so come on then whats the reason that 5.5 is a bad ph level for soil, and why is using a humidifier a bad idea along witht he combined use of a carbon filter and fans? can you just quickly answer ? peace. EmptyForceOfChi 05-10-07, 10:33 PM oh thats right your not going to say. reported me for trolling? are you insane. peace. EmptyForceOfChi 05-10-07, 10:44 PM you are just looking at a PH level chart most likely thinking that ph 5.5 is too acidic, but no for the germination of seeds and in the early stages no its not, when the plant is grown you will want to bring the soil level to an even 7.0, but it doesent have to be at a dead even it can be anywhere between 6.0 and 8.0 it doesent matter to much i have grown weed at all different ph levels, use a slightly acidic ph then change back its easy to manipulate the ph levels, just heat some limestone take the white residue substance and put it in the soil, its called calcium oxide, peace. The Devil Inside 05-11-07, 04:44 AM the devil inside, i always wanted to say this, your avatar fascinates me for some reason i cant stop looking at it, peace. thank spidergoat. EmptyForceOfChi 05-11-07, 04:54 AM thank spidergoat. its hypnotic yet disturbing, peace. nicholas1M7 05-11-07, 04:59 PM What if I somehow owned a weed plant to which I somehow transport weed to which I hate this thread for putting me in this position to which I hope no one here can find out my name and address. Bastards. (Now to delete any possible referrences to my address which can lead one to my trail.) phonetic 05-11-07, 05:10 PM What if I somehow owned a weed plant to which I somehow transport weed to which I hate this thread for putting me in this position to which I hope no one here can find out my name and address. Bastards. (Now to delete any possible referrences to my address which can lead one to my trail.) That's called paranoia, mate. Talking about these things online, you should only tell your friends' stories though. Or SWIY (someone who isn't you) using SWIM (someone who isn't me) to tell the story, where if you were talking about you, you'd say I. I believe, on the offchance somebody was using SWIM when in fact they meant 'I', they'd have covered their asses legally. Although they should feel bad for lying to the members of the forum. :D I'm not sure of the legality, but again, I believe that gaining a warrant for a search of somebodys house when they've been talking about SWIM, from information obtained on an internet forum (where people regularly lie) is extremely unlikely. I'd be more worried about a person growing plants telling their friends and their friends friends and the wrong people. If I was ever that person (which I never intend to be - growing illegal plants makes me sick to the stomach) I'd keep the info on a need-to-know basis and maybe tell one friend in strict confidence. If somebody was running an operation of a few plants and the harvesting time was well known around a lot of people, one of those people might feel that breaking and entering into this persons house is worth however many oz those plants might produce. You'd be surprised. I'd recommend those people be careful, just in case. EmptyForceOfChi 05-11-07, 05:14 PM if the po found a few plants they wouldent care. if they found a plantation or a full on grow house then they would care. anyway fuck the police i hope they have to fill in plenty of paperwork for eternity, peace. nicholas1M7 05-13-07, 07:31 PM Ricky, I found this really good article (http://www.hno.harvard.edu/gazette/2001/10.11/marijuana.html) on marijane that you will find interesting. Fraggle Rocker 05-14-07, 10:37 AM It's been many many years since I've been able to smoke anything without lapsing into a coughing and wheezing fit... but I live in the redwood forest where people grow this stuff. Redwoods secrete acid into the soil to discourage undergrowth and hog the water and nutrients but it makes a perfect environment for cannabis. It also makes it almost impossible to start a fire in a redwood forest. Here they say the ideal pH is 6.0, but that may just be because they're lazy and the soil comes that way. Remember that cannabis is a weed, that's why they call it that. It's been found growing in vacant lots in frelling Moscow! It's pretty hardy and not easy to kill. In my day, indoor growers ran their lights 24/7 and got pretty fast growth. Then after a few months they cut it back to something like 12 on and 12 off (don't remember exactly) which simulated autumn and caused the female plants to flower. It's the number of hours of darkness that triggers the hormones, not light. You could probably do 24 on and 12 off and your plants would just figure they were growing on some other planet and still do their thing. I never knew anyone who thought hanging them upside down and all that stuff was really worth the trouble. It's scientifically valid but the practical effect was less noticeable. If you want to harvest from a growing plant, cut the top off, and if you really want to be fastidious, cut the ends off of all the branches. The new growth on the tip secretes hormones that suppress branching further down and promote height, which is an advantage in the wild but not in a domestic garden. This will cause it to grow more branches, which means more leaves, more budding nodes, and a bushier, more compact plant perfectly suited to intense artificial light. When you're choosing your seedlings, pick the ones that have the shortest "internodal distance" from one branch/leaf point to the next. This will give you a compact plant with more branches and leaves in less volume. If you want to take a cutting from an existing plant to start a new plant, stick the stalk in RooTone, which you can buy in any garden shop. It's a hormone that stimulates the production of "adventitious" roots. Of course it's not totally necessary for a plant that's a weed, but it gives you a nice head start. There used to be a device called a PhotoTron that would grow six incredibly dense plants in a cylinder about 3 feet high and 18 inches in diameter. It crammed three U-shaped fluorescent tubes into that space, surrounded by mirrors so none of the light was lost, and the plants thought they were living on Mercury without the heat. Some guy developed it for his master's thesis in botany and actually used cannabis because at that time you could get away with it for "academic purposes." People had spectacular results using them for indoor herb gardens, or having fresh flowers every week, or even cherry tomatoes. And I believe a few people continued using them for their original purpose too. I have no idea whether they're still out there. Some people claim they can spot a female plant. Commercial growers claim they have technology to force plants to become female. But for most people it's a crapshoot. Growers sell the buds from their females and keep the male and female leaves for their own use. If you've got an endless supply of leaves there is no shortage of THC in them. A recent decades-long study in Jamaica, where marijuana is a religious sacrament for many people, discovered that smoking even outrageous amounts of the stuff appears to have no health effects similar to tobacco. (Boy was that one underreported in the U.S. press.) Tobacco really is a dangerous drug and cannabis really is not. Nonetheless people prone to asthma and other respiratory ailments can't smoke anything, and the smell tends to attract unwanted attention. You can't eat it raw because your digestion can't break down the cellulose to release the THC. So the old hippies either bake it into brownies, which breaks it down--but watch the odor spewing out of your oven vent into the neighbors' yard--or grind it into dust in a food processor which does the same thing less efficiently but without generating odor--and then just hold their noses and eat the foul stuff or brew some almost equally foul tea or brandy with it. Some enterpreneur in Holland invented a "vaporizer" that heats the leaves to the exact temperature required to release the THC as a gas, without catching fire. You can inhale without smoking or letting anybody smell what you're doing. That's probably the way of the future. Creative Fossil 05-14-07, 11:45 AM Is there anything that HRH Fraggle Rocker doesn't know about in oodles and boodles? RickyH 05-14-07, 05:03 PM Ricky, I found this really good article (http://www.hno.harvard.edu/gazette/2001/10.11/marijuana.html) on marijane that you will find interesting. thanks for the link. but what i had found out that was particularly odd about this link, is that i myself said this well over 3 years ago. when it's been recently entered into your system, of course the short term memory effects will be a major role in how you react. but as time goes on with this particular drug, there seems to be almost no effects what so ever. but i'm glad to see that there's still research even in the smallest details of the drug now. Fraggle Rocker 05-14-07, 05:51 PM Is there anything that HRH Fraggle Rocker doesn't know about in oodles and boodles?No big deal. It's just a matter of paying attention while you grow older, and then remembering the things you paid attention to. :) |