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WildBlueYonder
11-18-03, 11:37 PM
Let's see, he fits most of the profile, as in Revelations mentioning the ‘Beast’, the ‘Dragon’ & the ‘Abomination that causes desolation’.

Look at the timeline: http://www.worldmag.com/world/issue/10-27-01/cover_8.asp

Examples of the beast in Revelation 13: 18:
“This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the
beast, for it is man’s number. His number is 666.” (NIV)

Examples of the abomination that causes desolation from Matthew 24: 15:
“So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes
desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel – let the reader understand” (NIV)

Examples of the abomination that causes desolation from Daniel 11: 31:
“His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the
daily sacrifice. Then they set up the abomination that causes desolation.” (NIV)

Not being a prophet myself, I think that the abomination that causes desolation is when muslims take Jerusalem in 638, then build the Al-Aqsa Mosque over the Jewish Temple mount.

http://www.lastdaysmystery.info/the_abomination_that_causes_desolation.htm

okinrus
11-19-03, 12:04 AM
The abomination that causes desolation is when Satan demands worship. The anti-christ is similar to Jesus, the image of God; but instead of the image of God, the anti-christ will have the image of Satan, a image of death to which the voltures will gather around. Muhammed wasn't <i>that</i> bad. The mosque that the muslims built on the temple mount was on top of a temple long since destroyed by the romans.

Proud_Syrian
11-20-03, 03:10 AM
Muhammad (peace be upon him) was foretold in the Bible:

The Aramaic Bible mentions "Muhammad" as the next Prophet of GOD Almighty:

I was getting shock when I read that "Paraklytos" is actually "Muhammad" in Aramaic - the mother tongue' of Prophet Jesus (p.b.u.h).

Follow me as we trace the Biblical history of this Greek word "Paraclete". Startling as it may seem, at one time the word read "Periklytos" and "Paraklytos", which is the name for "Muhammad" in Greek. Surprising? It should not be because both words mean "Praised" or "Celebrate," the meaning and character of the man "Muhammad." (1 Jesus in The Qur'an, One World Publications, (c) Geoffrey Parrinder 1965, 1995, ISBN 1-85168-094-2. Knowing this, there is a need for us to study the life of Prophet Muhammad in depth to see if it all stands up. Surprisingly it does.

Allahu Akbar (GOD is Great)!, for the complete explanation by Aramaic Bible Society please visit:

http://www.aramaic.org/PARAVLETE.html

This proved what has been said by Qur'an:

"Those who follow the apostle the unlettered prophet (prophet Muhammad - p.b.u.h) whom they find mentioned in their own (Scriptures); in the law (Torah) and the Gospel" (Qur'an 7:157)

According to Holy Qur'an the name of prophet Muhammad or Ahmad (p.b.u.h) is mention by name in the Gospel (Injeel):

"And when Jesus son of Mary said: O Children of Israel! Lo! I am the messenger of Allah unto you, confirming that which was (revealed) before me in the Torah, and bringing good tidings of a messenger who cometh after me, whose name is Ahmad (the Praised One)." (Qur'an 61:6)

If you refer to Song of Solomon in Hebrew scripture, the name 'Muhammad' also mention there, please read Song of Solomon 5:16, it looks like this:

"Hikow mamtaqiym wkulow muhamad iym zeh dowdiy wzeh ree`iy bnowt yruushaalaaim."

Embrace Islam you will be saved!

Vienna
11-20-03, 05:13 PM
Probably.

Of all the worlds religions, Islam is the most violent.

Medicine*Woman
11-20-03, 05:22 PM
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Proud_Syrian
Muhammad (peace be upon him) was foretold in the Bible:

The Aramaic Bible mentions "Muhammad" as the next Prophet of GOD Almighty:

I was getting shock when I read that "Paraklytos" is actually "Muhammad" in Aramaic - the mother tongue' of Prophet Jesus (p.b.u.h).

Follow me as we trace the Biblical history of this Greek word "Paraclete". Startling as it may seem, at one time the word read "Periklytos" and "Paraklytos", which is the name for "Muhammad" in Greek. Surprising? It should not be because both words mean "Praised" or "Celebrate," the meaning and character of the man "Muhammad." (1 Jesus in The Qur'an, One World Publications, (c) Geoffrey Parrinder 1965, 1995, ISBN 1-85168-094-2. Knowing this, there is a need for us to study the life of Prophet Muhammad in depth to see if it all stands up. Surprisingly it does.

Allahu Akbar (GOD is Great)!, for the complete explanation by Aramaic Bible Society please visit:

http://www.aramaic.org/PARAVLETE.html

This proved what has been said by Qur'an:

"Those who follow the apostle the unlettered prophet (prophet Muhammad - p.b.u.h) whom they find mentioned in their own (Scriptures); in the law (Torah) and the Gospel" (Qur'an 7:157)

According to Holy Qur'an the name of prophet Muhammad or Ahmad (p.b.u.h) is mention by name in the Gospel (Injeel):

"And when Jesus son of Mary said: O Children of Israel! Lo! I am the messenger of Allah unto you, confirming that which was (revealed) before me in the Torah, and bringing good tidings of a messenger who cometh after me, whose name is Ahmad (the Praised One)." (Qur'an 61:6)

If you refer to Song of Solomon in Hebrew scripture, the name 'Muhammad' also mention there, please read Song of Solomon 5:16, it looks like this:

"Hikow mamtaqiym wkulow muhamad iym zeh dowdiy wzeh ree`iy bnowt yruushaalaaim."

Embrace Islam you will be saved!
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M*W: Interesting post. Please explain the Islamic conception of salvation. I haven't read about this. Thanks!

WildBlueYonder
11-20-03, 09:11 PM
Originally posted by Proud_Syrian

Muhammad (0) was foretold in the Bible:
Yes, as the beast of End Times


The Aramaic Bible mentions "Muhammad" as the next Prophet of GOD Almighty:

I was getting shock when I read that "Paraklytos" is actually "Muhammad" in Aramaic - the mother tongue' of (Christ) Jesus (1). would you mind reading the Gospel of John Chapter 16: verses 5 to 16? You will be hard pressed to prove that statement. Also, you may want to ask other Assyrians & Chaldeans what there Bible says there, tell them you are interested in becoming a Christian, now that you understand the Bible better.

Follow me as we trace the Biblical history of this Greek word "Paraclete". Startling as it may seem, at one time the word read "Periklytos" and "Paraklytos", which is the name for "Muhammad" in Greek. Surprising? It should not be because both words mean "Praised" or "Celebrate," the meaning and character of the man "Muhammad." (1 Jesus in The Qur'an, One World Publications, (c) Geoffrey Parrinder 1965, 1995, ISBN 1-85168-094-2. Knowing this, there is a need for us to study the life of Prophet Muhammad in depth to see if it all stands up. Surprisingly it does. AAF may have been right about Mohammad having been born with another name, then changing it to comply with the beast’s plan as the anti-christ. Read John 16: 5 to 16 in Arabic, see if it means anything to you?

(GOD is Great)!, for the complete explanation by Aramaic Bible Society please visit:

http://www.aramaic.org/PARAVLETE.html why use that site? Is there an ulterior motive? The Peshitta Bible is available to all who want it:
http://www.peshitta.org/



If you refer to Song of Solomon in Hebrew scripture, the name 'Muhammad' also mention there, please read Song of Solomon 5:16, it looks like this:

"Hikow mamtaqiym wkulow muhamad iym zeh dowdiy wzeh ree`iy bnowt yruushaalaaim."

A few weeks ago, you were saying that the Song of Solomon was pornagraphy, what made you change your mind?

Use this site to find out more about the language of the Eastern Christians
http://www.assyrianlanguage.com/

Use this site, to get words translated on the English to Aramic link provided; you know, words like 'praise', 'praised', 'counselor', redeemer'
http://cal1.cn.huc.edu/cgi-bin/scan_olex.cgi

Markx
11-20-03, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by Vienna
Probably.

Of all the worlds religions, Islam is the most violent.

want to compare people kille by christians and people killed by muslims?? :o

:o :rolleyes:

Markx
11-20-03, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by Randolfo
Yes, as the beast of End Times

would you mind reading the Gospel of John Chapter 16: verses 5 to 16? You will be hard pressed to prove that statement. Also, you may want to ask other Assyrians & Chaldeans what there Bible says there, tell them you are interested in becoming a Christian, now that you understand the Bible better.

AAF may have been right about Mohammad having been born with another name, then changing it to comply with the beast’s plan as the anti-christ. Read John 16: 5 to 16 in Arabic, see if it means anything to you?

why use that site? Is there an ulterior motive? The Peshitta Bible is available to all who want it:
http://www.peshitta.org/



A few weeks ago, you were saying that the Song of Solomon was pornagraphy, what made you change your mind?

Use this site to find out more about the language of the Eastern Christians
http://www.assyrianlanguage.com/

Use this site, to get words translated on the English to Aramic link provided; you know, words like 'praise', 'praised', 'counselor', redeemer'
http://cal1.cn.huc.edu/cgi-bin/scan_olex.cgi

Muhammad anti christ?? I thought that was George Bush, wasn't he Randolfo? wasn't he the anti christ? lol

:D

Vienna
11-20-03, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by Markx
want to compare people kille by christians and people killed by muslims?? :o

:o :rolleyes:
Sure.......

For a start tell me how many Christian fundamental terrorist groups are there killing Muslims today?

What is the Christian equivalent to Al Queda and the Taliban?

What is the Christian equivalent to Muslim terrorism?

When was the last Christian stoning?

When did a Christian fundamentalist group last torture a muslim?

Why do muslims always wave their rifles and guns in the air and fire aimlessly, are they afraid of birds shitting on their towels?

Markx
11-21-03, 12:22 AM
Originally posted by Vienna
Sure.......

For a start tell me how many Christian fundamental terrorist groups are there killing Muslims today?

What is the Christian equivalent to Al Queda and the Taliban?

What is the Christian equivalent to Muslim terrorism?

When was the last Christian stoning?

When did a Christian fundamentalist group last torture a muslim?

Why do muslims always wave their rifles and guns in the air and fire aimlessly, are they afraid of birds shitting on their towels?

Wait!!! Did you miss my post??? Or are is that a pre recorded message? lol. Read again and wait for my reply.ha

Markx
11-21-03, 12:38 AM
Originally posted by Vienna
Sure.......
?

So, let's compare...

I am only starting with 19th century , will give you more about earlier accounts.

1914-1918 Christians killed Christians.

Total Deaths 37,508,686.


1938-44 Not started by muslims :rolleyes:

Total killed 55 million


This is just the begining, more to follow.

Crunchy Cat
11-21-03, 01:11 AM
Why do muslims always wave their rifles and guns in the air and fire aimlessly, are they afraid of birds shitting on their towels?

lol. jeez.

chalcedony
11-21-03, 03:32 AM
Muhammad was not foretold in the Bible despite the ludicrous claims set forth. Here’s why.

The Aramaic Bible mentions "Muhammad" as the next Prophet of GOD Almighty

The Aramaic bible may be in Aramaic, but it is a version of the bible that is not translated from existent texts. It is the re-interpretation of the bible by one unscholared man in the 20th century, hardly the words of God.

I was getting shock when I read that "Paraklytos" is actually "Muhammad" in Aramaic - the mother tongue' of Prophet Jesus.……(snipped)

Well now that is false too.

In John 14:16-17 Jesus says:

16And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever-- 17the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.

Counselor is the translation of the Greek word paraclete. A similar looking word periclytos means appraised. Supposedly that word in Arabic is ahamed which sounds like Ahmed, a pseudonym of Mohammed. You are trying to make witch equal which.

There are over 5300 New Testament manuscripts that have paraclete in it. Furthermore, when Jesus identified the Counselor, He identified it as the Holy Spirit, and was to be given to Christ’s apostles to testify about Christ, not Mohammed. The Counselor would abide with God’s followers forever. I seem to recall that Mohammed has been dead for some 1300 years. Jesus also affirmed that the apostles know the Counselor, but they certainly did not know Mohammed. The Counselor would be sent in Jesus’ name but Mohammed did not come in Jesus’ name. The Counselor would glorify Jesus, Mohammed claims to have superceded Jesus. The fulfillment of Jesus’ words took place on the Pentecost 10 days later, not 600 years later.

If you refer to Song of Solomon in Hebrew scripture, the name 'Muhammad' also mention there, please read Song of Solomon 5:16, it looks like this:

"Hikow mamtaqiym wkulow muhamad iym zeh dowdiy wzeh ree`iy bnowt yruushaalaaim."


The Song of Solomon was originally written in Hebrew. Which word do you claim is the name of Mohammed?

(edited because it did not copy properly, here is the link to the Hebrew writing. PLease show me which word is what you falsely claim is Mohammed. http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt3005.htm )


You have claimed in the past that the Song of Solomon is too racy for you. If it is too dirty for you, then how can your prophet’s name be mentioned in it?

Vienna
11-21-03, 08:04 AM
Originally posted by Markx
So, let's compare...

I am only starting with 19th century , will give you more about earlier accounts.

1914-1918 Christians killed Christians.

Total Deaths 37,508,686.


1938-44 Not started by muslims :rolleyes:

Total killed 55 million


This is just the begining, more to follow.

Child, these are bullshit figures. You are taking into account World wars which (wait for it) involved all people of ALL nationalities and of ALL faiths.

Try again sunshine, and while you are at it please answer the specific questions which I have asked you .

Proud_Syrian
11-21-03, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by Medicine*Woman
[M*W: Interesting post. Please explain the Islamic conception of salvation. I haven't read about this. Thanks! [/B]

Sure, I have a great site that compare the concept of salvation in Islam with that in christianity:

http://www.jesus-or-allah.com/

Proud_Syrian
11-21-03, 11:43 AM
[b]Muhammad was foretold in the Bible despite the ludicrous claims set forth by the CHRISTIAN LIARS. Here’s why.

Just a quick note, the Arabic word "Muhammad" is an expression which means "The honorable one" or "The glorified one" or "The admirable". Prophet Muhammad was the first in the Middle East to be named "Muhammad". Below, you will see how Jesus in today's Gospel of John had called this human Prophet which he predicted his comming "The honorable one".

Jesus in the Greek Bible used the Greek word "Periklytos" which means the admirable or glorified one. He called that predicted human prophet "Periklytos". This word corresponds exactly to the Arabic word "Muhammad" which also means the "admired one" or "glorified one." In other words, "Periklytos" is "Muhammad" in Greek.

Let us start...

In the Bible we can find the following four passages wherein Jesus (peace be upon him) predicts a great event:

John 14:16 "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever"

John 15:26 "But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, [even] the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me"

John 14:26 "But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."

John 16:7-14 "Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: Of sin, because they believe not on me; Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, [that] shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew [it] unto you."

In these four verses, the word "comforter" is translated from the word "Paraclete" ("Ho Parakletos" in Greek). Parakletos in Greek is interpreted as "an advocate", one who pleads the cause of another, one who councils or advises another from deep concern for the other's welfare (Beacon Bible commentary volume VII, p.168). In these verses we are told that once Jesus (peace be upon him) departs, a Paraclete will come. He will glorify Jesus (peace be upon him), and he will guide mankind into all truth. This "Paraclete" is identified in John 14:26 as the Holy Ghost.

It must be pointed out that the original Greek manuscripts speak of a "Holy pneuma." The word pneuma {pnyoo'-mah} is the Greek root word for "spirit." There is no separate word for "Ghost" in the Greek manuscripts, of which there are claimed to be over 24,000 today. The translators of the King James Version of the Bible translate this word as "Ghost" to convey their own personal understanding of the text. However, a more accurate translation is "Holy Spirit." More faithful and recent translations of the Bible, such as the New Revised Standard Version (NRSV), do indeed now translate it as "Holy Spirit." This is significant, and will be expounded upon shortly.

All Bibles in existence today are compiled from "ancient manuscripts," the most ancient of which being those of the fourth century C.E. Any scholar of the Bible will tell us that no two ancient manuscripts are exactly identical. All Bibles in our possession today are the result of extensive cutting and pasting from these various manuscripts with no single one being the definitive reference.

What the translators of the Bible have done when presented with such discrepancies is to do their best to choose the correct version. In other words, since they can not know which "ancient manuscript" is the correct one, they must do a little detective work on the text in order to decide which "version" of a given verse to accept. John 14:26 is just such an example of such selection techniques.

John 14:26 is the only verse of the Bible which associates the Parakletos with the Holy Spirit. But if we were to go back to the "ancient manuscripts" themselves, we would find that they are not all in agreement that the "Parakletos" is the Holy Spirit. For instance, in the famous the Codex Syriacus, written around the fifth century C.E., and discovered in 1812 on Mount Sinai by Mrs.Agnes S. Lewis (and Mrs. Bensley), the text of 14:26 reads; "Paraclete, the Spirit"; and not "Paraclete, the Holy Spirit.".

Very Important Point: A "Spirit" in the New Testament is a human Prophet. Therefore, Jesus had predicted the comming of a human Prophet (spirit) after him and not the Holy Spirit. Jesus would not have used the word "he" for the Holy Spirit. He would have used "it" instead in John 14:26 above. Read 1 John 4:1-3 below:

"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world," (1 John 4:1-3)

(also see 1 John 4:6), or an inspired human, for example read 1 Corinthians 2:10, 2 Thessalonians 2:2, ...etc.

There had been many cases of deliberate modification of the Biblical text by members of the Christian clergy themselves, as well as deliberate large scale projects to "correct" the Bible, and the writings of "the early fathers," (such as the deliberate insertion of the verse of 1 John 5:7 which is now universally discarded) It is, therefore, possible that either:

1) The word "Holy" could have been dropped by a careless copyist., or

2) Someone could have inserted the word "Holy" to convey his personal understanding of the text.

Which was it? In order to arrive at the answer we must follow the same path of detective work the Biblical scholars themselves do. We must study the characteristics of the "Paraclete" and compare them to both the "Holy Spirit" and to a "Spirit." Muslims believe that Muhammad (peace be upon him) was the one intended and not the Holy Ghost. In the Christian's own "Gospel of Barnabas" Muhammad is mentioned by name here. The Trinitarian church, however, has done its utmost to obliterate all existing copies of "The Gospel of Barnabas," and to hide it from the masses or to label it a forgery (see chapter 7). For this reason, it becomes necessary to show that even the Gospels adopted by Paul's church also originally spoke of Muhammad (peace be upon him).

For more information, read here:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm

Proud_Syrian
11-21-03, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by Randolfo
Yes, as the beast of End Times


Ritual Human Sacrifice in the Bible:

(Why does God want me to burn animals and humans?)

The Bible, especially the Old Testament, is filled with numerous stories of animal and human sacrifice. God, we are told, likes the pleasing aroma of burning flesh. Animal sacrifice is much more common than human sacrifice, but both occur and are "pleasing to the Lord".

Genesis, the first book of the Bible, has Abraham preparing to sacrifice his son to God. (Genesis 22:1-18) Abraham takes his own son up on a mountain and builds an altar upon which to burn him. He even lies to his son and has him help build the altar. Then Abraham ties his son to the altar and puts a knife to his throat. He then hears God tell him this was just a test of his faith. However, God still wanted to smell some burnt flesh so he tells Abraham to burn a ram.

Even though he didn't kill his son, it is still an incredibly cruel and evil thing to do. If Abraham did that today he would be in jail serving a long sentence as someone's prison-bitch. It amazes me how Christians see this story as a sign of God's love. There is no love here, just pure unadulterated evil.

The first seven chapters of Leviticus have extensive rules regarding animal and food sacrifices. These offerings are supposed to be burnt so that God can smell them. If you read through these it seems clear to me that the priests were getting their followers to make a big feast for them every week. The priests were very particular about what kind of food to bring and how to prepare it.

Even more peculiar is God's obsession with first-born sons. In Exodus 13:2 the Lord said "Consecrate to me every first-born that opens the womb among Israelites, both man and beast, for it belongs to me." Later it says that you can redeem (replace) an ass with a sheep and that you must redeem a child for an unspecified price. It is clear from the context that "consecrate" means a burning sacrifice. These priests are guilty of theft and kidnapping. Since any sins in the Old Testament were punishable by death, these priests used the threat of death to extort food and money from their followers. What do we call a scum-bag that threatens to kill your kids unless you pay a ransom? A kidnapper! If these priests were alive today they would be in prison with Abraham.

However, in Leviticus 27:28-29, the Lord allows for no redemptions. "Note also that any one of his possessions which a man vows as doomed to the Lord, whether it is a human being or an animal, or a hereditary field, shall be neither sold nor ransomed; everything that is thus doomed becomes most sacred to the Lord. All human beings that are doomed lose the right to be redeemed; they must be put to death." I must admit that I am a bit confused by this contradiction, but it might only apply to slaves in your possession. Not that it makes any difference. A human sacrifice is a human sacrifice, and it is just sick.

Here is a Bible story of human sacrifice from Judges 11:29-40;

http://www.evilbible.com/Ritual_Human_Sacrifice.htm

So the next time some Christian tells you about the "love of God", show them this page and ask them "Why does God want me to burn animals and humans?"

http://www.evilbible.com

Vienna
11-21-03, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by Proud_Syrian
Ritual Human Sacrifice in the Bible:

(Why does God want me to burn animals and humans?)

The Bible, especially the Old Testament, is filled with numerous stories of animal and human sacrifice. God, we are told, likes the pleasing aroma of burning flesh. Animal sacrifice is much more common than human sacrifice, but both occur and are "pleasing to the Lord".

So the next time some Christian tells you about the "love of God", show them this page and ask them "Why does God want me to burn animals and humans?"



The Old Testament is applicable to all abrahamic faiths.. YAWN :rolleyes:


Is it fashionable to be a Christian hater these days or are you just downright jealous of its superior qualities. :D

Vienna
11-21-03, 01:55 PM
How many Christian fundamental terrorist groups are there killing Muslims today?

What is the Christian equivalent to Al Queda and the Taliban?

What is the Christian equivalent to Muslim terrorism?

When was the last Christian stoning?

When did a Christian fundamentalist group last torture a muslim?


ANYONE??????????

Proud_Syrian
11-21-03, 04:15 PM
CHRISTIAN TERRORISM AGAINST MUSLIMS CONTINUES:

- THE CHRISTIAN LRA: LORD RESISTANCE ARMY:

LRA continued to kill, torture, maim, rape, and abduct large numbers of civilians, virtually enslaving numerous children. Although its levels of activity diminished somewhat compared with 1997, the area that the LRA targeted grew. Insurgent groups in Uganda, the largest of which -- the Lord's Resistance Army, harass government forces and murder and kidnap Muslim civilians in the north and west. the LRA seeks to overthrow the Uganda Government and has inflicted brutal violence on the population in northern Uganda, including rape, kidnapping, torture, and murder. LRA forces also target local government officials and employees. The LRA also targets international humanitarian convoys and local nongovernmental organization workers.
The LRA has abducted large numbers of civilians for training as guerrillas; most victims were children and young adults. The LRA abducted young girls as sex and labor slaves. Other children, mainly girls, were reported to have been sold and traded.

http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/pirate2.gif

- Christian terrorism against Muslims in BOSNIA:

Warning: GRAPHIC PICTURES IN THE LINK:

http://www.alkhilafah.info/massacres/bosnia/index.html

- Christian terrorism against Muslims in KOSOVO:

http://www.alkhilafah.info/massacres/kosovo/index.html

-Christian terrorism against Muslims in Chechnya:

http://www.alkhilafah.info/massacres/chechnya/index.html

-Christian terrorism against Muslims in Afghanistan:

http://www.alkhilafah.info/massacres/afghanistan/index2.htm

-Christian terrorism against Muslims in Iraq:

http://www.alkhilafah.info/massacres/iraq/index.htm

-Christian(American) sponsord terrorism against Muslims in Palestine:

http://www.alkhilafah.info/massacres/palestine/jenin.htm

And the list goes on and on.....

http://www.motherofevil.com

CounslerCoffee
11-21-03, 05:27 PM
Of all the worlds religions, Islam is the most violent.

Now that's just ignorant. Need we point out that Hitler was a christian?

okinrus
11-21-03, 06:38 PM
Yes, Hitler <i>was</i> a christian when he was young.

Markx
11-21-03, 07:10 PM
[[QUOTE]Originally posted by Vienna
How many Christian fundamental terrorist groups are there killing Muslims today?



Oh my did you miss the PS's list?? Do I need to give you more?? lol


What is the Christian equivalent to Al Queda and the Taliban?


Equivalent??? Do you not watch news?? Did you miss the last 3 years?? Were you still in your cave?? My country usa is equal to twenty Al-qeda and Britan's forces are more then equal. Now where did the Taliban came in the picture???

Taliban: never attacked a christian country, never comited atrocities against chrisitans. These perverts were busy killing themself. Now please don't Bullshit me with 9/11 was Taliban's act. Because that is just idiotic as your claims.

What is the Christian equivalent to Muslim terrorism?


Same questions three times, are you running out of questions?? lol. Well let us see, Bosina, Chechnya, Kosovo, Afghanistan and Iraq...... Need I say more??

If one wears a uniform and comits murders and one without a uniform, it doesn't make him/them any better or does it? lol. Your questions and claims are very childish, reminds me of Savage Nation Talk show and Rush Limbaugh. Are you happened to be their follower?? Do you also not believe in history like them? lol.

So what is the quivalent of above?? when was the last time a muslims country attacked a christian country with fabricated reasons and LIES? Care you answer??



When was the last Christian stoning?


Hoenestly I don't know. If you can tell me when was the last *lawfully* muslim stonning of some one innocent? It would be nice. Now, stonning is a ABRAHAMIC law also mentioned in Torah, and Quran if muslims are following it, why do you have a problem? don't comit adultry and get caught in Irana and Saudi arabia ok? Oh isn't Adultry has a same punishment in christianity??

But you don't care what i say here, you are not here to learn any thing or are you? ha.

When did a Christian fundamentalist group last torture a muslim?


Hmmm... Last torture was yesterday I believe, in Iraq or in Afghanistan.Can you deny it? Let us see how the christians didn't torture them but slaughter them,

http://www.historyplace.com/worldhistory/genocide/bosnia.htm

what is the equivalent of above?? care to explain?? when was the last time when muslims killed 200,000 christians in cold blood? Let me help you . It is called GENCOCIDE, MURDER, KILLING, and TERRORISM... Sad Vieena that you are acting like a typical Bigot. You can do better then this, try next time.

Now for the century's most ignorant comment

[B]Of all the worlds religions, Islam is the most violent.[B]


Should I laugh first?? wait!! there is nothing to laugh about it but I am sad that you are that ignorant. Want me to show you the pure form of violence? LOOK and Read If you CAN.



Genocide 35 M dead 1311-40 Mongol extermination of Chinese.

Mongols were not muslims. They might had a religion or may not but it is only for the sake of your weak argument.


Stalin, Joseph Russia Communist 1926-37 Forced Famine Ukraine: 4-7 M
1946-54 Democide: 8-15M
Labor (Concentration) Camps: 12-25M
1924-53 Total: 20-30M

People who followed those orders weren't without a reliigon, majority of them were Russian Orthodax *Christians*.

When did Muslims killed that many Christians?? or even Muslims? What do you think sir? Any thoughts?

Lenin, Vladimir Russia Communist 1921-22 4 Million killed.

Hitler, Adolf Germany Fascist 1938-45 15-21 M (6 M Jews)

Were they not christians?? Peacefull christians? when was the last time that muslims killed 6 million jews? or 15 million christians?? :mad:


Milosevic, Slobodan Yugoslavia 1991-92 6-10K in Croatia
1992-95 200-300K in Bosnia and Herzegovina.
8,000 in Srebrenica, Bosnia massacre.
1998-99 10K Albanians killed in Kosovo
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Once again peacfull christians did the above. Go on deny it, go on.......show your ignorance again.


The following is not done by muslims either..........:(
Mussolini, Benito Italy,
Ehthopia,
Libya 1922-43 1935-41 Ehthopia and Libya - 200 K, Yugoslavia - 15 K, Greece - 9 K, Italy - 250k

No my friend, they weren't muslims or Islam who killed the following,


1950-53 Korean War N. Korea & China vs S. Korea & the US 1-2 Million dead and 500 K non combat related deaths.

so much for peacfull people of peacfull faith.

1964-73 Vietnam War N. Vietnam vs S. Vietnam & the US 1.2-2.5 Million dead and slaughter by peaceful christian armies 500 K non combat deads.


1968 My Lai Massacre Vietnam War 20-100 civilians. Stories at pbs.com and UMKC.edu. Hundreds of civilians had also been killed by other army units, at My Khe and Co Luy. were the christians, muslims or some other religion but your argument just died with all the above facts.


Want more?? 3k killed in Ireland.

http://www.wesleyjohnston.com/users/ireland/past/troubles/major_killings.html

is that all because of peacful religion? Did muslims try to bribe them to kill? :confused:


Gulf War Western alliance pushes Iraq out of Kuwait 50-100 K

All Iraqis only 268 US. Oh please don't tell me that those numbers are not true. Since it is the easiest way out for you.


1994-date- Chechnya, Russia Independence 40 K 200 K

when was the last time muslims killed 200k christians in Russia??


Man I am getting tired now, hey how about I continue later.

let me ask you something? Do you just like making stuff up like Randolfo? or you really are that dumb? Now my friend go back to where you came from and go to school or college or something to get some education and then come back and talk like a literate person not like some terrorist Evanglist ok?


p.s If al-qeda was after Christians then they would have been attacking all the chrisistian countries and NOT ONLY THE USA AND BRITIANS INTERESTS, makes me wonder if all those countries are not Christians. I guess it is just a living proof that they have somehting against USA and Britian not against christians. Just a thought. By the I don't expec you to read all of the above since I know that is not your intent. lol

Above might help you understand that Islam is not the most violent religion. Do you see how your argument can fail when you don't know the history or when you are not educated?>

CounslerCoffee
11-21-03, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by okinrus
Yes, Hitler <i>was</i> a christian when he was young.

Nope, he was catholic. I bring this up because I made a folly.

Hitler - Christian, Atheist, or Neither? (http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/mischedj/ca_hitler.html)

chalcedony
11-21-03, 08:30 PM
Jesus in the Greek Bible used the Greek word "Periklytos"


Proud Syrian, you are wrong, but then you get your information from anti-Christian hate websites instead of researching your information for yourself.

5300 manuscripts have the word "paraclete" not "periklytos" this is just a deliberate attempt by muslims to promote their religion by re-inventing the scriptures of others.

Vienna
11-21-03, 08:57 PM
THE LRA IS NOT A CHRISTIAN ORGANISATION

THE LRA KILLS CHRISTIANS TOO

The Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA), a brutal rebel group which has terrorised northern Uganda for seventeen years, has begun specifically targeting Christians. Their leader Joseph Kony (who claims to be guided by messages from angels, and is believed by many to be clinically insane) has ordered the killing of Christian leaders across the denominations.



Sudanese Christians Attacked by the "Lord's Resistance Army"

http://www.worthynews.com/news-features-3/sudan-christians-lra.html


The Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA), a brutal rebel group which has terrorised northern Uganda for seventeen years, has begun specifically targeting Christians. Their leader Joseph Kony (who claims to be guided by messages from angels, and is believed by many to be clinically insane) has ordered the killing of Christian leaders across the denominations.

http://www.barnabasfund.org/News/Archive/Uganda/Uganda-20030731.htm

The Ugandan army on Tuesday said it was still pursuing members of the rebel Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) who abducted 44 young people from a Catholic seminary in northern Uganda at the weekend.

http://www.religionnewsblog.com/archives/00003331.html


For 16 years, the church and the predominantly Christian population of northern Uganda have suffered cruel, barbaric atrocities at the hands of this blasphemous, terrorist cult-militia.

http://www.worldevangelical.org/persec_uganda_17jun03.html


Syrian - sod off and find me some real answers instead of quoting that disgusting Islamic propagandist crap.

Vienna
11-21-03, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by CounslerCoffee
Now that's just ignorant. Need we point out that Hitler was a christian?
Hitler was no more a Christian than Mohammed.

Vienna
11-21-03, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by Markx
Originally posted by Vienna
How many Christian fundamental terrorist groups are there killing Muslims today?

Oh my did you miss the PS's list?? Do I need to give you more?? lol
Yes please oh wise one


Equivalent??? Do you not watch news?? Did you miss the last 3 years?? Were you still in your cave?? My country usa is equal to twenty Al-qeda and Britan's forces are more then equal. Now where did the Taliban came in the picture???

Taliban: never attacked a christian country, never comited atrocities against chrisitans. These perverts were busy killing themself. Now please don't Bullshit me with 9/11 was Taliban's act. Because that is just idiotic as your claims.
And you still haven't answered my question dumbo

What is the Christian equivalent to Muslim terrorism

Same questions three times, are you running out of questions?? lol. Well let us see, Bosina, Chechnya, Kosovo, Afghanistan and Iraq...... Need I say more???
You'd better, you haven't answered a single question yet

If one wears a uniform and comits murders and one without a uniform, it doesn't make him/them any better or does it? lol. Your questions and claims are very childish, reminds me of Savage Nation Talk show and Rush Limbaugh. Are you happened to be their follower?? Do you also not believe in history like them? lol.

So what is the quivalent of above?? when was the last time a muslims country attacked a christian country with fabricated reasons and LIES? Care you answer??
You are becoming confused again (not suprising really), The armed forces of the USA and UK have troops of various religions, and these are armed forces not fundamentalist religious nutters.

When was the last Christian stoning?

Hoenestly I don't know.
Good answer.


When did a Christian fundamentalist group last torture a muslim?

Hmmm... Last torture was yesterday I believe
Huh HUR....Wrong Answer


Next time please do try to remember that the armed forces of the west are not religious nutters. They consist of people from all kinds of religious backgrounds.

Shame you failed to fully answer any of the questions apart from one, better luck next time.

Oh and er dont forget THE ARMED FORCES OF THE WEST ARE NOT FUNDAMENTAL RELIGIOUS NUTTERS FIRING GUNS IN THE AIR WHILE RIDING CAMELS.

Thankyou :D

Markx
11-21-03, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by Vienna
[D [/B]

I am enjoying your frustration.


Easy way out?? Come on man read those links. I answered each one of your questions, perhaps they didn't serve your purpose. lol. I should have answered according to your wishes not the truth. Now it is not my job to satisfy you. It was an honest reply to your ignorant and un educated claims. I am sure they are other members here who can see these posts.

So are you backing off now? since it was you who said Islam is the most violent of all? Now since you have got all the answers, sites and links you are dismissing them. Awww...vienna, did you miss the bosnian link too?? Now the armies of west are not religious nutters :rolleyes: but they love commiting atrocities against other religions. Offcourse that doesn't count since it doesn't serve you right. In conclusion you failed in your own arguemnt and you are still not getting it are you?

You got all the answers; you just don't want to believe them. Admit it now.... oh and please post and tell me about the last muslim stonning. It would be nice to know.

Vienna keep denying everything............it is norm of your ilk.:D

Markx
11-21-03, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by Vienna
Yes please oh wise one

Next time please do try to remember that the armed forces of the west are not religious nutters. They consist of people from all kinds of religious backgrounds.
.

Thankyou :D


awww... trying hard again? ;) I don't think so. They are commanded and moved my religious nutters like ASS croft, Rum Filed and God's own appointed apostle G W Bush. Now try again.

Vienna
11-21-03, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by Markx
oh and please post and tell me about the last muslim stonning. It would be nice to know.

Vienna keep denying everything............it is norm of your ilk.:D

YAWN ..if you say so :rolleyes:

AND IN THIS LINK IT SAYS.......

If you are a Muslim, you MUST read this section and watch the video to increase your knowledge of Islam. Increasing one's knowledge about Islam is farz (compulsory)!
Also, you must force yourself to like stoning, because Mohammed ordered it. If you are afraid to watch the video or have watched it and are disgusted by it, you will likely be punished in Hell for Kufr.
So watch the video and do NOT be disgusted!

http://www.apostatesofislam.com/media/stoning.htm

Vienna
11-21-03, 10:16 PM
Where is the justice and virtue in a religion that allows paedophilia in imitation of its founding prophet, polygamy and the oppression of women, and even slavery?

Why are there three times as many armed conflicts in the world involving Islam today, as there are all of the other religious people groups in the world put together?

Where does tolerance exist in the Moslem world? The answer, of course, is that it doesn’t exist!

Markx
11-21-03, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by Vienna
Where is the justice and virtue in a religion that allows paedophilia in imitation of its founding prophet, polygamy and the oppression of women, and even slavery?

Why are there three times as many armed conflicts in the world involving Islam today, as there are all of the other religious people groups in the world put together?

Where does tolerance exist in the Moslem world? The answer, of course, is that it doesn’t exist!


Changing topic. Trying to run away. Typica. Very typical.

WildBlueYonder
11-21-03, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by Markx
Muhammad anti christ?? I thought that was George Bush, wasn't he Randolfo? wasn't he the anti christ? lol

:D No, he must be you, poor guy, poor deluded MarkX, living in a Matrix world of make-believe fables, go on, live a lie, follow the Father of Lies, or look & see if Christianity is the answer for you, before its too late

WildBlueYonder
11-21-03, 11:11 PM
Originally posted by CounslerCoffee
Now that's just ignorant. Need we point out that Hitler was a christian? Adolf was born a Catholic, raised a Catholic, taught as a Catholic, most be Catholic? Wrong!

Where did he get all those racial ideas?
how about reading:
http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/resources/books/annual3/chap09.html
or:
http://www.salon.com/people/letters/2002/03/01/hanussen/
Then you decide?

WildBlueYonder
11-21-03, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by Markx
Changing topic. Trying to run away. Typica. Very typical. yeah, you're right! so what is the topic of this thread? Hmmm... so, why don't you answer this then? can you prove that Mohammad was not the anti-Christ?

Proud_Syrian
11-22-03, 03:44 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Vienna
THE LRA IS NOT A CHRISTIAN ORGANISATION

THE LRA KILLS CHRISTIANS TOO

===================================
P S:

Oh really ?? you did not bother yourself to tell us what the LRA stands for ? what is their goal ? what they are fighting for ?

THE LRA ( Lord resistance army ) is CHRISTIAN TERRORIST ORGANIZATION:

The LRA fought to overthrow Museveni and impose a Christian state based on their version of the Ten Commandments.

http://www.cidcm.umd.edu/inscr/mar/data/ugacholi.htm

Uganda: Unholy Children’s Crusade

.......It is here that Joseph Kony’s Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA) has been wreaking havoc on the local population, abducting, maiming, and killing citizens for more than a decade. Notorious for its cruelty, the LRA instructs its recruits to cut off victims’ lips, ears, noses, arms, and legs. Of particular concern is the LRA’s focus on child abductions, of which an estimated 20,000 have been carried out in the past decade. Child recruits are taught to kill and maim; they are hacked to death if they refuse to comply.

Kony, a cultist whose preachings mingle Christian fundamentalism with African animism, says he envisages an Acholi tribal nation based on the Ten Commandments. He teaches his recruits that the Holy Spirit will protect them and sends child soldiers into battle with a “magical” stone sewn into their clothing or a bottle of water that they are told will create a mighty river if emptied.

http://www.worldpress.org/Africa/1575.cfm

Forgotten people: Northern Uganda

The LRA is infamous for its brutal record of abuse against civilians. The LRA has abducted at least 10,000 children and forced them to serve as soldiers, servants, and sex slaves. These children are the primary victims of the Ugandan military's campaign...

http://www.reliefweb.int/w/rwb.nsf/0/82ba74ed3a2ab1ca85256d640069a7a6?OpenDocument

Proud_Syrian
11-22-03, 04:21 AM
Originally posted by Vienna
YAWN ..if you say so :rolleyes:

AND IN THIS LINK IT SAYS.......



And here you have Born Again Fundamentalist Christian
Reverend M. Francis Speaks Out On Dealing With Sinful, Rebellious Children! Stoning Is The Answer!!

http://www.geocities.com/revmfrancis/

Let us read about how uncircumcized animals like vienna treat their women in ENGLAND:

Rape is a common crime with a conviction rate of below 10% and sentences as low as 180 hours community service.
Between 1996 and 1997 the number of women reporting rape increased by over 500%. Yet convictions have remained almost static, meaning that whilst in 1977 1 in 3 women reporting rape saw their rapists convicted, in 1996 less than 1 in 10 did. The criminal justice system is currently failing women, not just those who report rape, but every woman, since the message being sent out is that rape is a low risk, high reward activity.

http://www.rapecrisis.co.uk/statistics.htm

And let us read how they treat their childern:

UK child abuse deaths could be double official figures, says UN

http://society.guardian.co.uk/children/story/0,1074,1044729,00.html

And let us read about SERIAL KILLERS AND MURDER ( which is worse than stoning ) which is raging in CHRISTIAN ENGLAND:

http://www.murderuk.com

And dont forget to read about STONING IN THE BIBLE:

http://www.free-minds.org/bible.htm

And the BARBARISM in the bible:

http://www.evilbible.com

Those PATHETIC christians complain about one or 2 cases of stoning while they are killing HUNDERD OF THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT MUSLIMS!! PATHETIC ANIMALS:

http://www.motherofevil.com

Vienna
11-22-03, 07:20 AM
Syrian


Lord’s Resistance Army Orders
Killing of Christian Leaders

The Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA), a brutal rebel group which has terrorised northern Uganda for seventeen years, has begun specifically targeting Christians. Their leader Joseph Kony (who claims to be guided by messages from angels, and is believed by many to be clinically insane) has ordered the killing of Christian leaders across the denominations.

http://www.barnabasfund.org/News/Archive/Uganda/Uganda-20030731.htm


Syrian you are quite a good liar, it's a pity you have no other redeeming quality apart from spewing Islamic propogandist filth.

Vienna
11-22-03, 07:22 AM
Where is the justice and virtue in a religion that allows paedophilia in imitation of its founding prophet, polygamy and the oppression of women, and even slavery?

Why are there three times as many armed conflicts in the world involving Islam today, as there are all of the other religious people groups in the world put together?

Where does tolerance exist in the Moslem world? The answer, of course, is that it doesn’t exist!

Vienna
11-22-03, 07:32 AM
Is mohammad the anti-christ?

Mohammed the anti-Christ – A conniving illiterate who mocked the divinity of Jesus. A sexually active polygamist who began his life as a pagan and ended it in a new form of pagan belief of his own making (no attestation to his status as prophet though miraculous events during his lifetime). Warlike, his focus was on this life and not upon eternal life except to the degree that the concept as presented offered the fulfillment of humanistic goals. When challenged and not with a strong army he fled, unlike Jesus with the power of God, one time walked right through a crowd desiring to put him to death and toward the end went to Jerusalem knowing full well that He would suffer and be put to a horrible death.

Proud_Syrian
11-22-03, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by Vienna
Syrian
Lord’s Resistance Army Orders
Killing of Christian Leaders

[/B]

Oh right, that is why THE LRA ( Lord resistance army ) is CHRISTIAN TERRORIST ORGANIZATION:

The LRA fought to overthrow Museveni and impose a Christian state based on their version of the Ten Commandments.

http://www.cidcm.umd.edu/inscr/mar/data/ugacholi.htm

CHRISTIAN TERRORISTS PRAISING THE CHRISTIAN PRIEST WHO KILLED TWO DOCTORS :

Paul Hill "I think more people should act the way I acted." Pensacola News Journal Sept 3, 2003 AD

CHECK THEIR SITE AND HOW THOSE CHRISTIAN TERRORISTS HONOUR Paul Hill as an American Hero:

http://www.armyofgod.com

Proud_Syrian
11-22-03, 08:59 AM
More christian EXORTERRORISM:

Exorcist 'pastor' convicted of manslaughter

http://www.rickross.com/reference/fundamentalists/fund68.html

Vienna
11-22-03, 09:00 AM
Originally posted by Proud_Syrian
Oh right, that is why THE LRA ( Lord resistance army ) is CHRISTIAN TERRORIST ORGANIZATION:

The LRA fought to overthrow Museveni and impose a Christian state based on their version of the Ten Commandments.

http://www.cidcm.umd.edu/inscr/mar/data/ugacholi.htm

CHRISTIAN TERRORISTS PRAISING THE CHRISTIAN PRIEST WHO KILLED TWO DOCTORS :

Paul Hill "I think more people should act the way I acted." Pensacola News Journal Sept 3, 2003 AD

CHECK THEIR SITE AND HOW THOSE CHRISTIAN TERRORISTS HONOUR Paul Hill as an American Hero:

http://www.armyofgod.com

OK Proud Syrian become a Christian, if what you say above is true just think how much fun you will have, and it will suit you down to the ground... :D

Vienna
11-22-03, 09:01 AM
Is mohammad the anti-christ?

Mohammed the anti-Christ – A conniving illiterate who mocked the divinity of Jesus. A sexually active polygamist who began his life as a pagan and ended it in a new form of pagan belief of his own making (no attestation to his status as prophet though miraculous events during his lifetime). Warlike, his focus was on this life and not upon eternal life except to the degree that the concept as presented offered the fulfillment of humanistic goals. When challenged and not with a strong army he fled, unlike Jesus with the power of God, one time walked right through a crowd desiring to put him to death and toward the end went to Jerusalem knowing full well that He would suffer and be put to a horrible death.

Proud_Syrian
11-22-03, 10:53 AM
The Bible tells us Jesus a baby killer??

"Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works." (Revelation 2:22-23)

spookz
11-22-03, 10:59 AM
thats kinda sexy, ja?

Proud_Syrian
11-22-03, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by spookz
thats kinda sexy, ja?

Not really, if you want the sexy stuff in the bible, then have a look at this cute site:

http://www.biblesexstories.com

http://www.biblesexstories.com/stories/images/lot_daughters.jpg

Markx
11-22-03, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by Randolfo
No, he must be you, poor guy, poor deluded MarkX, living in a Matrix world of make-believe fables, go on, live a lie, follow the Father of Lies, or look & see if Christianity is the answer for you, before its too late


You sound really angry when I say anything about G W Bush...ha. You terrorist christians really worship him don't ya?
Did I pushed the wrong button?? Isn't G W bush self claimed GOD?? Don't you all baptists worship him? I mean he is a christian fundamentlist and you all I mean you and vienna like that stuff..... correct??

:rolleyes:

Proud_Syrian
11-22-03, 12:51 PM
Brother:

Dont bother yourself with those 2 christian losers......just give them some biblical bones whenever they bark.

:D

skywalker
11-22-03, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by Vienna
YAWN ..if you say so :rolleyes:

AND IN THIS LINK IT SAYS.......

If you are a Muslim, you MUST read this section and watch the video to increase your knowledge of Islam. Increasing one's knowledge about Islam is farz (compulsory)!
Also, you must force yourself to like stoning, because Mohammed ordered it. If you are afraid to watch the video or have watched it and are disgusted by it, you will likely be punished in Hell for Kufr.
So watch the video and do NOT be disgusted!

http://www.apostatesofislam.com/media/stoning.htm

No surprise.

Some thing similar in you and Randoflo, both of you think that Iran Represents ISlam. Pretty stupid but what can I say.

I don't see any dates/time frame?.


It is a God's law. Same law given to you randolfo. Stonning is not that simple as you tried to make it.

For example Vienna, if I fuck your wife ( no offense ) and you and two more people watch me doing it, then and only then I am eligable for that punishment. Now you tell me is it a possiblity to some one get stonned that easily?? How could you produce three eye wtinesses of some thing like that? Unless you video tape it or something like that I start telling people that I fuck your wife and she admits it in fornt of three people. It is pretty difficult to convict some one. Anyways, OT gave the same law but none of you guys follows it.

**Where is the justice and virtue in a religion that allows paedophilia in imitation of its founding prophet, polygamy and the oppression of women, and even slavery?***

Looks like mohamad's ideas are all adopted by modren day christians. More pedophile in Catholic churches and other churches then any other religious institution in the world. More adultry and incest then any other society of the world. More rape and opression of women then any where else ...and slavery?.......*sigh* school is the best place to learn about it.

spookz
11-22-03, 01:28 PM
told ya
sexy sexy stuff

Proud_Syrian
11-22-03, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by spookz
told ya
sexy sexy stuff

:D

Can after reading this nonesense in the bible believe that it is the true word of God ???

here you have another sex story from the bible.

http://www.biblesexstories.com/stories/david_bedwarmer.html

Vienna
11-22-03, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by skywalker
More adultry and incest then any other society of the world.

More rape and opression of women then any where else ...and slavery?.......

*sigh* school is the best place to learn about it.

Too true, seventh graders in a growing number of public schools, who are not permitted to wear a cross or speak the name of Jesus, are being required to attend an intensive three-week course on Islam - a course in which students are mandated to learn the tenets of Islam, study the important figures of the faith, wear a robe, adopt a Muslim name and stage their own Jihad.

Yeah, its compulsory, and in America.

http://www.crosswalk.com/news/religiontoday/1115944.html

http://www.blessedcause.org/BlessedCauseNews/BCNewsJuly6.htm

http://dailybeacon.utk.edu/article.php/4838

Vienna
11-22-03, 03:37 PM
Proud Syrian, .....Jesus loves you :D

Vienna
11-22-03, 03:46 PM
And here is another story, and this one is a true one:

Did you know - Quran (4:34) advises a man to beat his wife if she does'nt obey him?

Quran 4:34: Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in their sleeping places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great. :rolleyes:

Proud_Syrian
11-22-03, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by Vienna
Proud Syrian, .....Jesus loves you :D

I am sure he does, let us read what the noble Quran tells us about this Great prophet of Islam:

''And when God said, 'O Jesus, son of Mary, did you say unto men, "Take me and my mother as gods, apart from God"? He said, 'To you be glory! It is not mine to say what I have no right to. If I indeed said it, you would have known it, knowing what is within my heart, though I do not know your knowledge; you know the things unseen. I only said to them what you did commands me: "Serve God, my God and your God."( The Noble Quran 5-116)

Proud_Syrian
11-22-03, 03:52 PM
X-rated pornography in the bible:

Fantasizing about a girl he calls his "sister". Her vagina tastes like wine for him. And they had sex all night long. After he satisfied her really good, she wished if he were her brother (her biological brother nursed by her "mother's breast" as she said) so she doesn't have to take him home secretly:

Let us look at Song of Songs 4:9 "You have stolen my heart, my sister, my bride; you have stolen my heart with one glance of your eyes, with one jewel of your necklace." Fantasizing about his sister? at least he shows in this verse that he would!.

Let us look at Song of Songs 4:10 "How delightful is your love, my sister, my bride! How much more pleasing is your love than wine, and the fragrance of your perfume than any spice!" Making love to his own sister? "pleasing is your love (making???) than wine"?

Let us look at Song of Songs 4:12 "You are a garden locked up, my sister, my bride; you are a spring enclosed, a sealed fountain."

:eek:

Vienna
11-22-03, 04:52 PM
Jesus also said beware of false prophets, and guess what, along comes a nutter called mohammed and the rest is history.
Go tell it to the mountains - fucking lol! :D

Vienna
11-22-03, 05:06 PM
This thread is about "Is mohammad the anti-christ?" and I have fully answered the question.

Mohammed IS the anti-Christ – He was a conniving illiterate who mocked the divinity of Jesus. A sexually active polygamist who began his life as a pagan and ended it in a new form of pagan belief of his own making (no attestation to his status as prophet though miraculous events during his lifetime). Warlike, his focus was on this life and not upon eternal life except to the degree that the concept as presented offered the fulfillment of humanistic goals. When challenged and not with a strong army he fled, unlike Jesus who, with the power of God, one time walked right through a crowd desiring to put him to death and toward the end went to Jerusalem knowing full well that He would suffer and be put to a horrible death.

Mohammed IS the anti-Christ!

Markx
11-22-03, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by Vienna
Jesus also said beware of false prophets, and guess what, along comes a nutter called mohammed and the rest is history.
Go tell it to the mountains - fucking lol! :D



Your frustration will not save you. Jesus really loves you too, I hope. But once you made him God, he won't like it. Now, there is no way of finding it out untill your death or my death. So, we shall wait. What if your myth is false and mine is real? I am covered since I believe in Jesus as well as all other prophets, and you don't. I don't bash the previously revealed religions since it is my faith to believe in them but you do. On that day all the messenger will be bring forth and will be asked about their teachings and when Jesus will deny telling you to worship him or to consider him God and the concept of trinity and playing with the word of God ( bible ), it won't be a nice sight. By the Do you believe in Judgement day?

Vienna
11-23-03, 07:05 PM
There is so much truth in this statement here, and this is one of the reasons I dislike Islam so much, there are many other reasons but this will do for now.

Mohammed the anti-Christ – A conniving illiterate who mocked the divinity of Jesus. A sexually active polygamist who began his life as a pagan and ended it in a new form of pagan belief of his own making (no attestation to his status as prophet though miraculous events during his lifetime). Warlike, his focus was on this life and not upon eternal life except to the degree that the concept as presented offered the fulfillment of humanistic goals. When challenged and not with a strong army he fled, unlike Jesus with the power of God, one time walked right through a crowd desiring to put him to death and toward the end went to Jerusalem knowing full well that He would suffer and be put to a horrible death.

Markx
11-23-03, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by Vienna
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Mohammed the anti-Christ – .

lol:p

Fundamentalist christians....surprise surprise.