i almost choked to death today. While i was choking everyone just stood there. And looking back it made me realize in the moments before you die you are completly alone.

Ever seen Donnie Darko?

yes but i didnt really grasp the concept, but now i really understand what she was saying.

What were the people doing just standing there? Just looking? Nobody attempted to save you? Wtf.

People get shocked in situations like that. They don't know what to do, and therefore they do nothing.

Also, imagine though you aren't alone when you die. All of your memories, are connected to you. They are important to you. They are you. You are not alone when you die. Death is confusing to me.

Darkness.
Imprisoning me.
All that I see.
Absolute horror.
I cannot live.
I cannot die.
Trapped in myself.
Body, my holding cell.

Landmine.
Has taken my sight.
Taken my speech.
Taken my hearing.
Taken my arms.
Taken my legs.
Taken my soul.
Left me with life in hell.

S.O.S.
...
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...

Heh.
Kickass song even though it spelt the end of an era.

Anyway.
We are alone always. Not just when we die. It's only that when we die it becomes far more apparent.
But, who knows? It might be just the opposite in a real death. Some are saved the horrors of death by hallucination. One might find, in the end, that one isn't alone at all.
All one's social bonds outstripping the physicality of the people behind them.
The representations replacing the object.
The lunatics taking over the asylum....

invert_nexus,
Have you read Johnny Got His Gun by Dalton Trumbo?

I was once save by the Heimlich when I was choking at a party.
I never did have any grand life epiphanies or awakenings as a result.
The only result was that I didn't die, and I puked.

There were several times I came within inches of my life.
Twice I was rescued from drowning.
Still, no life chaning realizations.
Maybe I should try again.

Have you read Johnny Got His Gun by Dalton Trumbo?

No. It's a book? I knew it was a movie because of the One video, but never watched it.
Good book?
Might have to try to dig it up someday.

Spectacular book!
One of my favorites.
And a fairly short read.

Don't just tell the first part of the story! Jeeze! What happend? Were you obviously chocking? What were you choking on? I mean c'mon!

i almost choked to death today. While i was choking everyone just stood there. And looking back it made me realize in the moments before you die you are completly alone.
People don't connect chocking to death. People choke all the time. I have chocked many times and never died.

So... yeah... :confused:

People don't connect chocking to death. People choke all the time. I have chocked many times and never died.

So... yeah... :confused:

Not when your face is beet red and you cannot breath. Most choking for me happens when I am drinking water and trying to breath while I am pour the fluid in my mouth.

People don't connect chocking to death. People choke all the time. I have chocked many times and never died.

So... yeah... :confused:
If you are coughing, you aren't choking to death.
If you can talk at all, you aren't choking to death.
There is a hell of a difference between someone coughing badly and someone who is choking to death and not a wsip of air is going in to or coming out of them and that difference is extraordinarily easy to spot.

I guess I never seen it... :D

I was in class, my instructor was telling a story and i took a sip of my mountain dew and started laughing at the same time. Then i wasnt able to breath, for a little bit my instructor was still taking in i was waving my arms around trying to get his attention. Once he saw what was happening he stood there then told another student to get my advisor and class director. Finally when my advisor came in the room was able to breath again.

I was in class, my instructor was telling a story and i took a sip of my mountain dew and started laughing at the same time. Then i wasnt able to breath, for a little bit my instructor was still taking in i was waving my arms around trying to get his attention. Once he saw what was happening he stood there then told another student to get my advisor and class director. Finally when my advisor came in the room was able to breath again.
That's odd...

How big was that sip? I've had that happen with me quite a few times. God! I even gasped on my salive before! :D

And when me and my good olde friends used to tell jokes while we were drinking coke.... We would start laughing, sometimes choke, but usually spit coke everywhere and some of it would come out of our noses... :D
Good times! :D

Sorry you went through that. I feel for ya.

I drowned once in a lake. My body was pulled out of the water. A lifeguard worked on me for a long time but couldn't revive me. Totally exhausted, he left me for dead. I came to just as the ambulance arrived.

Wilmet... wow. That lifeguard shouldn't have been a lifeguard.

Sorry you went through that. I feel for ya.

I drowned once in a lake. My body was pulled out of the water. A lifeguard worked on me for a long time but couldn't revive me. Totally exhausted, he left me for dead. I came to just as the ambulance arrived.
Did you go to Heaven? Did you meet God? :D

Better luck next time you go for a swim! :eek:

Did you go to Heaven? Did you meet God? :D

Better luck next time you go for a swim! :eek:

Thanks, TS.

I was young... nine, maybe? I remember losing my strength and not being able to stay above water. I remember yelling out for help to the people on the shore. I remember seeing that a man spotted me. I remember thinking that he was going to jump in and save me, but he didn't... in a panic, he yelled out to the lifeguard instead. I remember going under for the last time. The next thing I remember was waking up. I remember being scared and running away from the scene. Adults ran after me, caught me and they told me what happened.

that really pisses me off how you use remember in almost every sentence
.

omfg... "I remember"

wow.

This defier happened almost 7 yrs ago on the 16 of August.

After meeting up with a college buddy I was on my way home driving from the TGIF at the mall. I received a phone call from a new friend Paul. I guess i went on my way to his house. When along the way there was a cherokee jeep in front of me driving slow. I sped up to triple digits and tried to pass. He raced me. We came to a fork in the road, I jammed my wheels to the right to get in front of him. In the middle of the fork was a concrete triangular slab separating the roads. I jumped the slab doing a buck! Ended up on the wrong side of the road onto no oncoming traffic. Soo, I turned my wheel right or left to get back into the right lane when I did a 450 and nailed my driver door into a 4 foot wide tree at tremendous speeds. Rendered oblivious I bashed my head, broke my left arm in 3 places, suffered double collapsed lungs and a ruptured diaphragm. The house where i crashed in front of was my new friend Ginas grandmothers house,which whom I just met a week ago. She heard the noise and recogmized me at 1 in the morning and came out with a camera. She took R rated pics of the incident on the spot. When the jaws of life and paramedics arrived i was airlifted by helicopter to the hospital. Only to flatline on the chopper, recessitated, I get to the hospital and fall into a pnemonia which required an ice bath to lower my temperatures. Two weeks later I walk out of the hospital. I AM Superman.

it is a big deal absane.
"I remember"
have that stolen from you.
trust me.

Yea... I say "I remember" a lot too... (if I remember right...)...

that really pisses me off how you use remember in almost every sentence
.

Maybe you should find more important things to worry about...?

i almost choked to death today. While i was choking everyone just stood there. And looking back it made me realize in the moments before you die you are completly alone.
People are often frightened when shit like that happens.
Besides, you survived. This kind of stuff happens, like, all the time.

Even though I am only 20, I have never had a near-death experience. Life has always seemed so boring to me in that respect. I mean, I haven't spent life secluded away from danger. There has never been a moment in life where I felt I might die. Perhaps in a car I've been afraid, but never really thought that life has escaping me.
I guess I could say I'm disappointed, but at the same time scared that something extreme might take me by surprise.

It's always by surprise. I was very surprised when I was running, slipt and feel on the ground breaking my teeth and my elbow in half. So... yeah... :eek:

i've never understood why people don't want to "die alone". death means that you stop existing, so all feelings like loneliness stops existing.

It's impossible not to die alone...

It's impossible not to die alone...

Depends on how one views "dying." Emotionally? Or not?

I'm sure you got my point...

Well your point was vague in that statement...

Plus the double negatives are confusing the hell out of me.

It's also impossible to die alone. There are always people around. And not just people, but also animals, trees, the earth, galaxies and the universe: me.

It's also impossible to die alone. There are always people around. And not just people, but also animals, trees, the earth, galaxies and the universe: me.

At least you explained your view. TS should do the same :)

i almost choked to death today. While i was choking everyone just stood there. And looking back it made me realize in the moments before you die you are completly alone.

I am glad you are ok. You are only alone for the time it takes to die and than you cease to exist. In the duration from dying to death even if you could interact with others how would you, why would you priortize it (over trying not to die or accepting death) and most importanty since your existance is about to cease why would it even matter to you (as opposed to those around you)?

Existing and living are one and the same. Once we cease to exist and the moments of right before we do what others do and say around us must have a severly dimished impact and soon will have no impact on on the deceased at all.

It reminded me of my favorite Bruce Lee qoute,

"If you love life don't waste time, for time is what life is made up of."

http://en.thinkexist.com/quotation/if_you_love_life-don-t_waste_time-for_time_is/327730.html

At least you explained your view. TS should do the same :)
I did. You simply did not understand.
When you die, you go all by yourself. Even if someone die right beside you, you don't see what is going on with that person. You "go" alone.

But what is your viewpoint? Die alone. No one else dies with me? I die and am reborn in my own world void of all others besides myself? No one understands you dead? We are all seperate from eachother in the same afterlife? No interaction?

?

But what is your viewpoint? Die alone. No one else dies with me? I die and am reborn in my own world void of all others besides myself? No one understands you dead? We are all seperate from eachother in the same afterlife? No interaction?

?
I don't know for sure. All that I know is that when I go, it will be a lonely trip...

And what makes you know it will be a lonely trip if you do not know what this trip is to be certain?

Because death is a personal thing!

It seems to me you are going in circles. You still have not explained to me why death is a lonely trip. What about the possibility of a parallel universe with another you that dies just when you do? Is it still "personal?"

You are now using wild extrapolations with no basis on reality... :rolleyes:

:D

You are now using wild extrapolations with no basis on reality... :rolleyes:

:D

Convenient. You do realize you would have to either disprove all counterexamples or prove your point.

Besides, string theory says parallel universes might exist (to explain things such as the big bang).

Death is a lonely trip because in reality nothing but "me" exists. Everyone/everything else is the same self in different bodies.

String theory is wild mathematical speculation with no basis in reality.

It's impossible not to die alone...

Maybe... but I've been with people at the moment of their death and, as they approach that moment, they sometimes talk outloud with people who have gone before... my brother and I heard our sister-in-law talking to our mother who she never met.

String theory is wild mathematical speculation with no basis in reality.

It's not currently testable... but if they discover the gravitron it will be good evidence.

And besides, ST is free of anomalies.

The mathematical mill produces only what is put into it; the results depend on the premises, but the premises may be wrong. Mathematics should be used to analyze observations and experimental data. It shouldn't be used to create a theory based on hypothetical equations.

I did. You simply did not understand.
When you die, you go all by yourself. Even if someone die right beside you, you don't see what is going on with that person. You "go" alone.
Truth, the problem with that is in the use of "alone". Being without anyone else in your mind, yes. But how many other forms can one be alone? The only loneliness in death is in the mind. But in reality we are ALWAYS ALONE IN OUR MINDS, life and death alike. (unless you have imaginary friends in your head, heh)

The mathematical mill produces only what is put into it; the results depend on the premises, but the premises may be wrong. Mathematics should be used to analyze observations and experimental data. It shouldn't be used to create a theory based on hypothetical equations.

That's the problem. No one knows whether string theory is physics or a philosophy. It's the "theory of everything" and is free of anomalies, but is not even test able. As far as I know... string theory started when someone was looking for en equation in quantum mechanics and noticed the gamma function can be done to do that.. but it also suggests strings. Correct me if I am wrong though.