the god the bible talks about was not the first god that we figured out. should we believe more in ourselves?

I believe the answer is yes. Theists and atheists alike need not fight with anyone. Personally, I feel ashamed for many of my fellow theists; so desperate to give an answer--any answer--that they have forfeit themselves unto their gods.

I don't get it .... No matter what one believes of God, a little more respect and love for oneself can only help.

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thanx,
Tiassa :cool:

I don't really understand the question?

Who was the first God to be worked out?

I put my faith in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. The same God and Messiah which Paul preached.

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Of course, when one believes one's own God started the whole shebang, it doesn't surprise me that they wouldn't ever think to learn about the nature of religion through the course of humanity. There was the Greek unmoved mover, and others. History is full of them.

Rather, it was. But Christianity has done a quite thorough job of exscinding some of those cultures from history, leaving only the hateful stereotypes that the faithful have been all-too-happy to perpetuate and bequeath unto their children.

Read the Epic of Gilgamesh, if you want. There's a tale that both predates and influences the Bible.

thanx,
Tiassa :cool:

It seems to me that, when people could not find the God in the Sky, they started looking inwards in an effort to discover what God was.

Militant people either believe in a militant God or hope to hell he isn't militant.

Kind people believe in a pacifist God.

Lawdog believes in a God that crucifies witches first, and then proceeds to judge them <i>second</i>.

The greatest God would be the God that accepted you for who you were, regardless of your (non-)religious inclination. She would deem you worthy if you tried to be true to yourself without doing harm to others. It would hold you accountable only on how you interacted with others. He would encourage you to love others and look past differences, instead of focusing on the differences first and foremost.

God wouldn't care if you believed or not, just so long as you tried to live your life in a good way.

Altruistic? Yes. That's a lot for a God to live up to. Unfortunately, others must settle for a Christian God.

thanks,

prag

Prag,

And what you have defined is an excellent human values system. And I think civilization has almost reached a point where we could implement such a system for ourselves. There doesn’t seem to be a need for a god. The greatest god would in fact be no god at all.

Cris