that which seems the height of absurdity in one generation often becomes the height of wisdom in the next..can you think of anything or anyone who comes into this category?

i'm not sure exactly what you mean, are you talking about people like thomas edison or the guy who saifd the world was round?

or do you mean users on this site:confused:

yes hippies and their ancestors.
is this a trick q?:confused:

Yes the guy who invented the zipper..........

the guy who invented cheese must have been crazy, or more precisely,the guy who first decided to eat it

the first guy to drink the milk from the udder of a cow must have been shunned by his friends don't you think?

Originally posted by god-of-course
i'm not sure exactly what you mean, are you talking about people like thomas edison or the guy who saifd the world was round?
exactly...that sort of thing:)

I think in general most discoveries of any kind can seem radical enough and the time of the discovery because if they didn't, then someone would have already thought of it.

ayn rand

Originally posted by moementum7
ayn rand

ditto

Fuck wisdom.

...why??

flying cars!!

*sigh*...oh well I thought this would be as good an oppotunity as any to dig these out....;)


The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970)

The wisest mind has something yet to learn.
George Santayana (1863 - 1952)

Science is organized knowledge. Wisdom is organized life.
Immanuel Kant (1724 - 1804)



Men are wise in proportion, not to their experience, but to their capacity for experience.
James Boswell (1740 - 1795), Life of Samuel Johnson, 1791

We don't receive wisdom; we must discover it for ourselves after a journey that no one can take us or spare us.
Marcel Proust (1871 - 1922)

To acquire knowledge, one must study; but to acquire wisdom, one must observe.
Marilyn vos Savant


Those who wish to appear wise among fools, among the wise seem foolish.
Quintilian, De Institutione Oratoria

Not by age but by capacity is wisdom acquired.
Titus Maccius Plautus (254 BC - 184 BC), Trinummus


A wise man can see more from the bottom of a well than a fool can from a mountain top .
Unknown


Good people are good because they've come to wisdom through failure.
William Saroyan (1908 - 1981)

The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.
William Shakespeare (1564 - 1616), "As You Like It", Act 5 scene 1

Thanx bhudmaash


The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970)


The Marquis Fuck wisdom. ..you can get seduced by it!!
:D :)

no worries.
Good to see someone else from GB. I was begining to feel a little isolated ( think that's a trait the british seem to be born with).
So where abouts are you exactly?:m:

Originally posted by The Marquis
Fuck wisdom.

(in my best obnoxious french accent)

ah... thee weezdom.. she is sexy no?

Wisdom is overrated.

so is ignorance.

I think Ignorance is underestimated. We don't know how f*@£ing ignorant we realy are.

Ohwell, Ignorance is bliss right?

Originally posted by bhudmaash
no worries.
Good to see someone else from GB. I was begining to feel a little isolated ( think that's a trait the british seem to be born with).
So where abouts are you exactly?:m:
the garden of England:)

Originally posted by bhudmaash
so is ignorance.
so is sex......:)

Originally posted by The Marquis
Fuck wisdom.
sex and ignorance are overated!!:D :m:

Rating things is over rated.

I think Ignorance is underestimated. We don't know how f*@£ing ignorant we realy are.


...true, but when one finally does realise how ignorant one is....that's wisdom;)

Originally posted by bhudmaash
...true, but when one finally does realise how ignorant one is....that's wisdom;)
Wisdom is based on the Sound of the Universe:)

Originally posted by bhudmaash
...true, but when one finally does realise how ignorant one is....that's wisdom;) your obviously very wise

One can download knowledge from Amazon.com. Wisdom can eventually be forced on you during the download (by slow connection and shortage of booz).

Mans opinion of himself.it seems the general veiw of man, more precisely mans mind, seems to be ascending into a pit of self loathing and self hate.hating life in general, and just waiting for the world to end. that man is evil. that mans mind is impotant to understand existence.to effectively deal with existence. One day man will understand the greatness of himself. That his self esteem and love for ones own life will be his greatest virtue.That mans life is the ultimate standard of value. That all will see that which is self evident...existence exists.that man exists.for himself.That love forhimself(SELFISHNESS) is an absolute.that this is not evil.that the only evil is to not think for oneself. to never place another mans consciousness above his own.To have no others consciousness acting as middleman between his own consciousness and existence.That it is mans resposibility to judge existence, and nothing can help him escape that fact.When man can state for himself as self evident ,that exixtence exists, reality is real. then man will become what he can and ought to be. A heroic being.No longer having to fear of relying on ones mind.but that it is mans mind that makes all things possible in mans life. theyre will come a time when this will have all been obvious.:cool:

Albert Einstein, had his books on relativity burned because people thought that they were absurd... Galileo beliefs were shunned

Originally posted by moementum7
your obviously very wise

you're obviously a comedian.

Originally posted by ChildOfTheMind
Albert Einstein, had his books on relativity burned because people thought that they were absurd... Galileo beliefs were shunned

Witches were burned at the stake

Pain makes man think.Thought makes man wise.Wisdom makes life endurable:cool:

Wisdom makes life endurable

I contend! Ignorance makes life endurable, Ignorance to pain, suffering and ignorance itself. Just look at us humans, we are ignorant and we endure life.
Hell, life isn't that bad realy, what's to complain about? As long as I have the freedom to go out into the mountains and forests and be alone.

Wisdom may be knowing one's ignorance, but I wouldn't know that which is for me unknowable.

Wisdom may be knowing one's ignorance, but I wouldn't know that which is for me unknowable. [/B][/QUOTE]

and "What is that!?":cool:

'that' is the limit of my ignorance, because if I am at any time ignorant of my ignorance there is no way I can know that I am ignorant. So right now I think that I am ignorant but it is impossible for me to determine how ignorant. And therefore I can not state wisdom in myself if the definition of wisdom is said to be 'knowing ones ignorance' because I am ignorant of my ignorance!:rolleyes:

Originally posted by exsto_human
'that' is the limit of my ignorance, because if I am at any time ignorant of my ignorance there is no way I can know that I am ignorant. So right now I think that I am ignorant but it is impossible for me to determine how ignorant. And therefore I can not state wisdom in myself if the definition of wisdom is said to be 'knowing ones ignorance' because I am ignorant of my ignorance!:rolleyes:

wisdom is said to be 'knowing ones ignorance' ..this is a falsehood deception non sequiter,knowledge can only be gained through experience ,therefore wisdom is gained surmounting ones ignorance not knowing ones ignorance..therfore wisdom is earned through suffering:cool:

Wisdom isn't overrated..people with wisdom are

Wisdom is great but it can get really hard to see the better point and think through logic all the time. At one point or another one does something irrational so wisdom has it's limits on it's use..well for me atleast;)

Originally posted by sargentlard
Wisdom isn't overrated..people with wisdom are

Wisdom is great but it can get really hard to see the better point and think through logic all the time. At one point or another one does something irrational so wisdom has it's limits on it's use..well for me atleast;)

Wisdom is the synthesis of reason and intuition,light and sound:cool:

Originally posted by sargentlard
Wisdom isn't overrated..people with wisdom are

Wisdom is great but it can get really hard to see the better point and think through logic all the time. At one point or another one does something irrational so wisdom has it's limits on it's use..well for me atleast;)

Wisdom is the synthesis of reason and intuition,light and sound:cool:

Originally posted by ChildOfTheMind
Albert Einstein, had his books on relativity burned because people thought that they were absurd... Galileo beliefs were shunned

Therefore ignorance (darkness) is linked to the human condition of Pride!:cool:

wisdom is said to be 'knowing ones ignorance' ..this is a falsehood deception non sequiter,knowledge can only be gained through experience ,therefore wisdom is gained surmounting ones ignorance not knowing ones ignorance..therfore wisdom is earned through suffering

I'll say that no man can call himself wise. As soon as he does he is proved to be unwise as he is sure of his wisdom, something that it is imposible to be sure of. Also if a man thinks of himself as wise, he is probably not, so the greatest wisdom is realy in realizing that one is not wise.
Wisdom vs. Ignorance are looking more and more like a paradoxical concept to me.

Originally posted by exsto_human
I'll say that no man can call himself wise. As soon as he does he is proved to be unwise as he is sure of his wisdom, something that it is imposible to be sure of. Also if a man thinks of himself as wise, he is probably not, so the greatest wisdom is realy in realizing that one is not wise.
Wisdom vs. Ignorance are looking more and more like a paradoxical concept to me.

ignorance (darkness) can only be conquered by the (light) of knowledge..therefore the person with the light also has the power of wisdom.i do not see any paradox in this argument...however I agree with you when you say:so the greatest wisdom is really in realizing that one is not wise.The reason for this is that we are not all knowledgeable.
:cool:

Originally posted by exsto_human
I think Ignorance is underestimated. We don't know how f*@£ing ignorant we realy are.

Ohwell, Ignorance is bliss right?

NO...Ignorance is darkness:)